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7/14/2016 1:09:26 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
!!!# O F F I C I AL #!!!

This thread shall serve as the voting thread, for the referendum on the referendum on the presidency. This is the official thread.

**********BACKGROUND:***********

PLEASE READ CAREFULLY:

http://www.debate.org...

IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER THIS THREAD IS THE

O F F I C I A L

REFERENDUM ON THE REFERENDUM , you should delete your account.

**********PROCEDURE:**********

All DDO members are eligible to vote once, subject to compliance with the TOS. That means that while you may not multi-account (and this will not be checked), if you have an account, your voice counts. This is designed to ensure the most fairness and greatest representation. Objections to this requirement are moot, because this is the O F F I C I A L protocol.

Just because you are eligible does not mean that you are required to vote. You may vote, or you may not vote.

Voting will begin at the posting of this thread, and will end exactly at 11:59:59 DDO Time (Central Time) in one week, on July 20, 2016. All votes cast within that time frame by valid account holders will be counted. Members may vote once, and may not change your vote, just like the O F F I C I A L elections.

Vote counts may be periodically posted by anyone. All posted vote counts are O F F I C I A L. I will tabulate the final results, however, as I am the decider.

Please select ONE of the two options described below, and bold your vote.

**********THE SOLE ISSUE BEFORE US IS WHETHER TO KEEP OR ABOLISH THE REFERENDUM ON THE REFERENDUM ON THE PRESIDENCY**********

The sole issue here is whether to keep or abolish the referendum on the referendum on the presidency. There are two options:

(1) KEEP

or

(2) ABOLISH

If the "KEEP" camp receives the majority, then the referendum will continue to exist until such time as the community, of which you are a part, decides otherwise.

if the "ABOLISH" camp receives the majority, then the referendum will CEASE TO EXIST immediately. Referendums will not happen again until the community decides otherwise.

Many people, including the author of the current referendum himself, have expressed strong desires to hold a referendum. Here it is.

Voting begins now.

!!!# O F F I C I AL #!!!
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7/14/2016 1:11:35 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/14/2016 1:10:30 AM, Peepette wrote:
pathetic move
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7/14/16 = The Presidency Dies

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7/14/2016 1:13:31 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
ABOLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LET ANARCHY RElN FROM THE HEAVENS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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7/14/2016 1:13:49 AM
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7/14/2016 1:14:07 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
Getting off the unlucky number.
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7/14/2016 1:27:41 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
Abolish
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7/14/2016 1:28:12 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
First, I didn't elect YYW to represent me or the community . I don't think anyone else has. He'd be near the top of my list on who not to vote for. This is a clear grab of authority on his part because he and 6-7 others are up and arms over the election. It's funny how this is being done while Wylted is off line. Mmmmm wonder..............
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7/14/2016 1:31:05 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/14/2016 1:28:12 AM, Peepette wrote:
First, I didn't elect YYW to represent me or the community . I don't think anyone else has. He'd be near the top of my list on who not to vote for. This is a clear grab of authority on his part because he and 6-7 others are up and arms over the election. It's funny how this is being done while Wylted is off line. Mmmmm wonder..............

When you decide to stop being a dipsh*t: http://www.debate.org...
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7/14/2016 2:20:19 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
lol I didn't see this

ABOLISH
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7/14/2016 2:22:03 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/14/2016 1:31:05 AM, imabench wrote:
At 7/14/2016 1:28:12 AM, Peepette wrote:
First, I didn't elect YYW to represent me or the community . I don't think anyone else has. He'd be near the top of my list on who not to vote for. This is a clear grab of authority on his part because he and 6-7 others are up and arms over the election. It's funny how this is being done while Wylted is off line. Mmmmm wonder..............

When you decide to stop being a dipsh*t: http://www.debate.org...

Airmax does not have the authority. Wylted does. This is outside the purview of moderation.

The presidency acts a check and balance to moderation so it's ridiculous that you are using Airmax's statement to prove your point.
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7/14/2016 2:27:09 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/14/2016 1:16:32 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
It's a done deal. The "referendum" posted by YYW is a farce.

That's not how that works.
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7/14/2016 2:28:18 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/14/2016 2:27:09 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/14/2016 1:16:32 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
It's a done deal. The "referendum" posted by YYW is a farce.

That's not how that works.

All referenda are farces unless done by the community. The community elected a representative so he's the one that can hold referenda.
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7/14/2016 2:28:22 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
Abolish!
"The Collectivist experiment is thoroughly suited (in appearance at least) to the Capitalist society which it proposes to replace. It works with the existing machinery of Capitalism, talks and thinks in the existing terms of Capitalism, appeals to just those appetites which Capitalism has aroused, and ridicules as fantastic and unheard-of just those things in society the memory of which Capitalism has killed among men wherever the blight of it has spread."
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7/14/2016 2:29:14 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/14/2016 2:28:18 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:27:09 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/14/2016 1:16:32 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
It's a done deal. The "referendum" posted by YYW is a farce.

That's not how that works.

All referenda are farces unless done by the community. The community elected a representative so he's the one that can hold referenda.

YYW's is the one people seem to recognize as the legit thread.
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7/14/2016 2:30:31 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/14/2016 2:29:14 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:28:18 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:27:09 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/14/2016 1:16:32 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
It's a done deal. The "referendum" posted by YYW is a farce.

That's not how that works.

All referenda are farces unless done by the community. The community elected a representative so he's the one that can hold referenda.

YYW's is the one people seem to recognize as the legit thread.

No. His band of bigots voting on it doesn't make it legitimate.
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7/14/2016 2:32:13 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/14/2016 2:30:31 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:29:14 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:28:18 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:27:09 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/14/2016 1:16:32 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
It's a done deal. The "referendum" posted by YYW is a farce.

That's not how that works.

All referenda are farces unless done by the community. The community elected a representative so he's the one that can hold referenda.

YYW's is the one people seem to recognize as the legit thread.

No. His band of bigots voting on it doesn't make it legitimate.

Well, out of all the threads that are out there. This is the one getting the most amount of people voting on it and most legit people actually voting on it.
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7/14/2016 2:32:43 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/14/2016 2:32:13 AM, lannan13 wrote:
Well, out of all the threads that are out there. This is the one getting the most amount of people voting on it and most legit people actually voting on it.

Irrelevant.
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7/14/2016 2:33:35 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/14/2016 2:32:43 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:32:13 AM, lannan13 wrote:
Well, out of all the threads that are out there. This is the one getting the most amount of people voting on it and most legit people actually voting on it.

Irrelevant.
Not at all.
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7/14/2016 2:34:08 AM
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At 7/14/2016 2:33:35 AM, Torton wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:32:43 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:32:13 AM, lannan13 wrote:
Well, out of all the threads that are out there. This is the one getting the most amount of people voting on it and most legit people actually voting on it.

Irrelevant.
Not at all.

It is. You can pick any one as the one you want.
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7/14/2016 2:34:26 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/14/2016 2:32:43 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:32:13 AM, lannan13 wrote:
Well, out of all the threads that are out there. This is the one getting the most amount of people voting on it and most legit people actually voting on it.

Irrelevant.

Not quite.
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7/14/2016 3:29:13 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/14/2016 3:20:26 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
Bumping to put this on top.

What are your thoughts on the Referendum, F-16? I'd like to get some elaboration.
"The Collectivist experiment is thoroughly suited (in appearance at least) to the Capitalist society which it proposes to replace. It works with the existing machinery of Capitalism, talks and thinks in the existing terms of Capitalism, appeals to just those appetites which Capitalism has aroused, and ridicules as fantastic and unheard-of just those things in society the memory of which Capitalism has killed among men wherever the blight of it has spread."
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7/14/2016 3:30:19 AM
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At 7/14/2016 3:29:13 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 7/14/2016 3:20:26 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
Bumping to put this on top.

What are your thoughts on the Referendum, F-16? I'd like to get some elaboration.

Down with the presidency! If bench isn't president, no one gets to be president.
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7/14/2016 3:31:10 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/14/2016 3:30:19 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 7/14/2016 3:29:13 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 7/14/2016 3:20:26 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
Bumping to put this on top.

What are your thoughts on the Referendum, F-16? I'd like to get some elaboration.

Down with the presidency! If bench isn't president, no one gets to be president.

That seems accurate. Do you think that we would be holding a referendum if DK had won the election?
"The Collectivist experiment is thoroughly suited (in appearance at least) to the Capitalist society which it proposes to replace. It works with the existing machinery of Capitalism, talks and thinks in the existing terms of Capitalism, appeals to just those appetites which Capitalism has aroused, and ridicules as fantastic and unheard-of just those things in society the memory of which Capitalism has killed among men wherever the blight of it has spread."
- Hilaire Belloc -