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Note the lack of arguments against f-16.

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7/14/2016 2:06:51 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
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7/14/2016 2:08:14 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 7/14/2016 2:06:51 AM, ShabShoral wrote:
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Yep. The idea of any user being able to make a binding referendum is even more hilarious than the idea of taking a popularity contest on a debating website seriously.
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7/14/2016 2:10:16 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 7/14/2016 2:08:14 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:06:51 AM, ShabShoral wrote:
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Yep. The idea of any user being able to make a binding referendum is even more hilarious than the idea of taking a popularity contest on a debating website seriously.

Bing Bing Bing

Abolitionists hate the presidency because it has no power.

Abolitionists try to abolish it by making useless referendums which have no power.

lol
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7/14/2016 2:11:41 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 7/14/2016 2:10:16 AM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:08:14 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:06:51 AM, ShabShoral wrote:
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Yep. The idea of any user being able to make a binding referendum is even more hilarious than the idea of taking a popularity contest on a debating website seriously.

Bing Bing Bing

Abolitionists hate the presidency because it has no power.

Abolitionists try to abolish it by making useless referendums which have no power.

lol
YYW's thread was sanctioned by Airmax.
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7/14/2016 2:13:02 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 7/14/2016 2:11:41 AM, Torton wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:10:16 AM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:08:14 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:06:51 AM, ShabShoral wrote:
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Yep. The idea of any user being able to make a binding referendum is even more hilarious than the idea of taking a popularity contest on a debating website seriously.

Bing Bing Bing

Abolitionists hate the presidency because it has no power.

Abolitionists try to abolish it by making useless referendums which have no power.

lol
YYW's thread was sanctioned by Airmax.

And he'll sanction a thread made the day after to reenact the presidency, if he's consistent. This does literally nothing.
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7/14/2016 2:17:29 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 7/14/2016 2:11:41 AM, Torton wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:10:16 AM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:08:14 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:06:51 AM, ShabShoral wrote:
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Yep. The idea of any user being able to make a binding referendum is even more hilarious than the idea of taking a popularity contest on a debating website seriously.

Bing Bing Bing

Abolitionists hate the presidency because it has no power.

Abolitionists try to abolish it by making useless referendums which have no power.

lol
YYW's thread was sanctioned by Airmax.

Under what conditions? He didn't prompt it. Can anyone make a referendum about anything? Why is YYW's thread better than the others? Does YYW have a special power to post referendums? Or does a user need Airmax's proposal for a specific referendum? If Airmax backs this referendum, why not do so outright? The whole premiseis so hilariously absurd that it make the idea of a debate site president look reasonable.
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7/14/2016 2:20:14 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 7/14/2016 2:17:29 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 7/14/2016 2:11:41 AM, Torton wrote:
YYW's thread was sanctioned by Airmax.

If Airmax backs this referendum, why not do so outright?

He's kind of a p*ssy when it comes to intervening and doing things, if you havent noticed.
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7/14/2016 3:24:13 AM
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I voted in the referendum but honestly, it's just more of a statement about how irrelevant the presidency seems at this point to this site functioning and functioning well than a genuine attempt to wield some form of legitimate power to end it.
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7/14/2016 3:29:50 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 7/14/2016 2:06:51 AM, ShabShoral wrote:
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For a thread you think has no impact, you seem very concerned about it.
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7/14/2016 3:36:15 AM
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There are no arguments made against him because he is not making arguments. He's rambling incessantly about something that he has no authority in while maintaining his demeanor as a toxic detriment to everything and everyone he comes into contact with.

The only argument that needs to be made is that if the community wants wylted out of power, it will happen by a plurality. Which will happen judging by the content of that thread. Community consent is all max needs to disavow wylted.
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7/14/2016 3:36:47 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 7/14/2016 3:36:15 AM, Mikal wrote:
There are no arguments made against him because he is not making arguments. He's rambling incessantly about something that he has no authority in while maintaining his demeanor as a toxic detriment to everything and everyone he comes into contact with.

The only argument that needs to be made is that if the community wants wylted out of power, it will happen by a plurality. Which will happen judging by the content of that thread. Community consent is all max needs to disavow wylted.

This is not a referendum to impeach Wylted.
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7/14/2016 3:37:46 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 7/14/2016 3:36:47 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 7/14/2016 3:36:15 AM, Mikal wrote:
There are no arguments made against him because he is not making arguments. He's rambling incessantly about something that he has no authority in while maintaining his demeanor as a toxic detriment to everything and everyone he comes into contact with.

The only argument that needs to be made is that if the community wants wylted out of power, it will happen by a plurality. Which will happen judging by the content of that thread. Community consent is all max needs to disavow wylted.

This is not a referendum to impeach Wylted.

It's a referendum to abolish the presidency, which by extent impeaches him with it .
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7/14/2016 3:38:28 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 7/14/2016 3:37:46 AM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/14/2016 3:36:47 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 7/14/2016 3:36:15 AM, Mikal wrote:
There are no arguments made against him because he is not making arguments. He's rambling incessantly about something that he has no authority in while maintaining his demeanor as a toxic detriment to everything and everyone he comes into contact with.

The only argument that needs to be made is that if the community wants wylted out of power, it will happen by a plurality. Which will happen judging by the content of that thread. Community consent is all max needs to disavow wylted.

This is not a referendum to impeach Wylted.

It's a referendum to abolish the presidency, which by extent impeaches him with it .

But it's not a referendum to impeach him.
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7/14/2016 3:40:05 AM
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At 7/14/2016 3:38:28 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 7/14/2016 3:37:46 AM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/14/2016 3:36:47 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 7/14/2016 3:36:15 AM, Mikal wrote:
There are no arguments made against him because he is not making arguments. He's rambling incessantly about something that he has no authority in while maintaining his demeanor as a toxic detriment to everything and everyone he comes into contact with.

The only argument that needs to be made is that if the community wants wylted out of power, it will happen by a plurality. Which will happen judging by the content of that thread. Community consent is all max needs to disavow wylted.

This is not a referendum to impeach Wylted.

It's a referendum to abolish the presidency, which by extent impeaches him with it .

But it's not a referendum to impeach him.

It's a referendum to abolish it, which by extent removes him. Even pro presidency people see that

To quote you via summary.

" Only sane people are voting for TUF and DK, and no sane person would abolish the presidency"

The two people you voted for are voting to abolish it now because they see its broken , congrats
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7/14/2016 3:51:59 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 7/14/2016 3:38:28 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 7/14/2016 3:37:46 AM, Mikal wrote:
At 7/14/2016 3:36:47 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 7/14/2016 3:36:15 AM, Mikal wrote:
There are no arguments made against him because he is not making arguments. He's rambling incessantly about something that he has no authority in while maintaining his demeanor as a toxic detriment to everything and everyone he comes into contact with.

The only argument that needs to be made is that if the community wants wylted out of power, it will happen by a plurality. Which will happen judging by the content of that thread. Community consent is all max needs to disavow wylted.

This is not a referendum to impeach Wylted.

It's a referendum to abolish the presidency, which by extent impeaches him with it .

But it's not a referendum to impeach him.

If you want to have that one too, fine. It would seem obvious if we don't want a president at all, then the question is moot, but whatever. Run that one, and watch the results.

Wylted is hated at this point. Whatever illegitimate it had he destroyed.
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7/14/2016 4:03:39 AM
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Max should at least publicly say he's recognizing the results. The fact that he's being silent is totally confusing. Why not make it only official to those who PM you?
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7/14/2016 4:11:03 AM
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At 7/14/2016 4:03:39 AM, thett3 wrote:
Max should at least publicly say he's recognizing the results. The fact that he's being silent is totally confusing. Why not make it only official to those who PM you?

Either he's sadistically wanting to watch the site burn for a few days or is taking into account the utter shitshow it looks like from afar - it makes it much easier for him to decide on abolition when the votes roll in for it.
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7/14/2016 4:16:43 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 7/14/2016 4:11:03 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/14/2016 4:03:39 AM, thett3 wrote:
Max should at least publicly say he's recognizing the results. The fact that he's being silent is totally confusing. Why not make it only official to those who PM you?

Either he's sadistically wanting to watch the site burn for a few days or is taking into account the utter shitshow it looks like from afar - it makes it much easier for him to decide on abolition when the votes roll in for it.

Blaming this on the presidency is ridiculous. If Max would have said flat-out no to a referendum, we would have moved on, just like we did when Bsh won despite massive discontent. The utter shitshow is a predictable result of the referendum.
"Whatever else is evil, the pride of a good mother in the beauty of her daughter is good. It is one of those adamantine tendernesses which are the touchstones of every age and race. If other things are against it, other things must go down. If landlords and laws and sciences are against it, landlords and laws and sciences must go down. With the red hair of one she-urchin in the gutter I will set fire to all modern civilization."
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7/14/2016 4:18:20 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 7/14/2016 4:16:43 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 7/14/2016 4:11:03 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/14/2016 4:03:39 AM, thett3 wrote:
Max should at least publicly say he's recognizing the results. The fact that he's being silent is totally confusing. Why not make it only official to those who PM you?

Either he's sadistically wanting to watch the site burn for a few days or is taking into account the utter shitshow it looks like from afar - it makes it much easier for him to decide on abolition when the votes roll in for it.

Blaming this on the presidency is ridiculous. If Max would have said flat-out no to a referendum, we would have moved on, just like we did when Bsh won despite massive discontent. The utter shitshow is a predictable result of the referendum.

I'm not blaming this on the Presidency - I'm blaming this on the actions of a person who has severely devalued the worth of considering the Presidency.
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7/14/2016 4:19:09 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 7/14/2016 4:16:43 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 7/14/2016 4:11:03 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/14/2016 4:03:39 AM, thett3 wrote:
Max should at least publicly say he's recognizing the results. The fact that he's being silent is totally confusing. Why not make it only official to those who PM you?

Either he's sadistically wanting to watch the site burn for a few days or is taking into account the utter shitshow it looks like from afar - it makes it much easier for him to decide on abolition when the votes roll in for it.

Blaming this on the presidency is ridiculous. If Max would have said flat-out no to a referendum, we would have moved on, just like we did when Bsh won despite massive discontent. The utter shitshow is a predictable result of the referendum.

I blame Max for this.
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7/14/2016 4:19:36 AM
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At 7/14/2016 4:18:20 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/14/2016 4:16:43 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 7/14/2016 4:11:03 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/14/2016 4:03:39 AM, thett3 wrote:
Max should at least publicly say he's recognizing the results. The fact that he's being silent is totally confusing. Why not make it only official to those who PM you?

Either he's sadistically wanting to watch the site burn for a few days or is taking into account the utter shitshow it looks like from afar - it makes it much easier for him to decide on abolition when the votes roll in for it.

Blaming this on the presidency is ridiculous. If Max would have said flat-out no to a referendum, we would have moved on, just like we did when Bsh won despite massive discontent. The utter shitshow is a predictable result of the referendum.

I'm not blaming this on the Presidency - I'm blaming this on the actions of a person who has severely devalued the worth of considering the Presidency.

Who, Max, YYW, or Bench?
"Whatever else is evil, the pride of a good mother in the beauty of her daughter is good. It is one of those adamantine tendernesses which are the touchstones of every age and race. If other things are against it, other things must go down. If landlords and laws and sciences are against it, landlords and laws and sciences must go down. With the red hair of one she-urchin in the gutter I will set fire to all modern civilization."
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7/14/2016 4:21:49 AM
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At 7/14/2016 4:19:36 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 7/14/2016 4:18:20 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/14/2016 4:16:43 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 7/14/2016 4:11:03 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 7/14/2016 4:03:39 AM, thett3 wrote:
Max should at least publicly say he's recognizing the results. The fact that he's being silent is totally confusing. Why not make it only official to those who PM you?

Either he's sadistically wanting to watch the site burn for a few days or is taking into account the utter shitshow it looks like from afar - it makes it much easier for him to decide on abolition when the votes roll in for it.

Blaming this on the presidency is ridiculous. If Max would have said flat-out no to a referendum, we would have moved on, just like we did when Bsh won despite massive discontent. The utter shitshow is a predictable result of the referendum.

I'm not blaming this on the Presidency - I'm blaming this on the actions of a person who has severely devalued the worth of considering the Presidency.

Who, Max, YYW, or Bench?

Well, two people. And none of those three.
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