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larztheloser
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7/27/2016 5:34:51 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
Alright DDO, time for the most prestigious annual tournament in online debate.

The World Online Debate Cup, running since 2014, recognizes excellence in online debate. Participants are welcome from any site that follows the format, and debates will take place on any participating sites.

The official rules are here: http://www.edeb8.com...
Australs topic selection rules: http://www.edeb8.com...
Countdown until we start: http://www.timeanddate.com... (about 4 days)

Enter here: http://www.edeb8.com...

You will need to create an edeb8 account to enter. Please also put that you are representing DDO on your edeb8 profile somewhere. If your DDO username is different, it would pay to make this easy to find.

The topics this year will be awesome and challenging, and as always the tournament will provide some top-quality competition.

Good luck! :D
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7/27/2016 6:01:44 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
Who's representing Edeb8?
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And I'm much obliged to you for making it clear - that I'm not here."

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lannan13
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7/27/2016 6:11:00 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
I'm in.
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7/27/2016 6:29:08 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
I'm not able to sign in to Edeb8 because I only sign in via Google, and I'm getting this message:

"The redirect URI in the request, http://www.edeb8.com..., does not match the ones authorized for the OAuth client. Visit https://console.developers.google.com... to update the authorized redirect URIs."
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7/27/2016 6:47:39 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
I got a password reminder - but the system says that password is wrong.
"Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe." - Frederick Douglass
larztheloser
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7/27/2016 6:58:17 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/27/2016 6:47:39 AM, tejretics wrote:
I got a password reminder - but the system says that password is wrong.

Apologies for this - could you try again now?
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7/27/2016 7:03:26 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/27/2016 6:58:17 AM, larztheloser wrote:
At 7/27/2016 6:47:39 AM, tejretics wrote:
I got a password reminder - but the system says that password is wrong.

Apologies for this - could you try again now?

Tried again, not working.
"Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe." - Frederick Douglass
larztheloser
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7/27/2016 7:05:09 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/27/2016 7:03:26 AM, tejretics wrote:
At 7/27/2016 6:58:17 AM, larztheloser wrote:
At 7/27/2016 6:47:39 AM, tejretics wrote:
I got a password reminder - but the system says that password is wrong.

Apologies for this - could you try again now?

Tried again, not working.

Will keep you posted then. Google is really bad with updating their APIs without telling anyone ... happened to our Youtube API calls once too. I'll get to the bottom of this.
larztheloser
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7/27/2016 7:06:51 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/27/2016 7:03:26 AM, tejretics wrote:
At 7/27/2016 6:58:17 AM, larztheloser wrote:
At 7/27/2016 6:47:39 AM, tejretics wrote:
I got a password reminder - but the system says that password is wrong.

Apologies for this - could you try again now?

Tried again, not working.

Actually, just try one more time? I just logged in successfully with Google myself so it might have just taken a while to update on their end since I switched it.
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7/27/2016 7:07:19 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/27/2016 7:06:51 AM, larztheloser wrote:
Actually, just try one more time? I just logged in successfully with Google myself so it might have just taken a while to update on their end since I switched it.

Okay, it's working now. Thanks.
"Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe." - Frederick Douglass
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7/27/2016 9:15:33 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
I am already in.
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7/27/2016 6:01:54 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
I'm not going to sign up because I want to do debates on topics that I want to do. So although I like tournaments, if I do a tournament I won't have time for my own debates. Thus I'm not gonna sign up, but I encourage others to.
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7/27/2016 7:39:07 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/27/2016 6:01:54 PM, Hayd wrote:
I'm not going to sign up because I want to do debates on topics that I want to do. So although I like tournaments, if I do a tournament I won't have time for my own debates. Thus I'm not gonna sign up, but I encourage others to.

Wait... we don't get to pick our own debates?
#ALLHAILFIRETHEKINGOFTHEMISCFORUM

...it's not a new policy... it's just that DDO was built on an ancient burial ground, and that means the spirits of old rise again to cause us problems sometimes- Airmax1227

Wtf you must have an IQ of 250 if you're 11 and already decent at this- 16k

Go to sleep!!!!- missmozart

So to start off, I never committed suicide- Vaarka
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7/27/2016 7:43:28 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/27/2016 7:39:07 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 6:01:54 PM, Hayd wrote:
I'm not going to sign up because I want to do debates on topics that I want to do. So although I like tournaments, if I do a tournament I won't have time for my own debates. Thus I'm not gonna sign up, but I encourage others to.

Wait... we don't get to pick our own debates?

I don't think so. You'll have to ask Larz tho
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7/27/2016 7:43:47 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/27/2016 7:43:28 PM, Hayd wrote:
At 7/27/2016 7:39:07 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 6:01:54 PM, Hayd wrote:
I'm not going to sign up because I want to do debates on topics that I want to do. So although I like tournaments, if I do a tournament I won't have time for my own debates. Thus I'm not gonna sign up, but I encourage others to.

Wait... we don't get to pick our own debates?

I don't think so. You'll have to ask Larz tho

oh...
#ALLHAILFIRETHEKINGOFTHEMISCFORUM

...it's not a new policy... it's just that DDO was built on an ancient burial ground, and that means the spirits of old rise again to cause us problems sometimes- Airmax1227

Wtf you must have an IQ of 250 if you're 11 and already decent at this- 16k

Go to sleep!!!!- missmozart

So to start off, I never committed suicide- Vaarka
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7/27/2016 7:46:19 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/27/2016 7:39:07 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 6:01:54 PM, Hayd wrote:
I'm not going to sign up because I want to do debates on topics that I want to do. So although I like tournaments, if I do a tournament I won't have time for my own debates. Thus I'm not gonna sign up, but I encourage others to.

Wait... we don't get to pick our own debates?

No. Didn't you read the rules?
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lannan13
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7/27/2016 8:29:49 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/27/2016 7:39:07 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 6:01:54 PM, Hayd wrote:
I'm not going to sign up because I want to do debates on topics that I want to do. So although I like tournaments, if I do a tournament I won't have time for my own debates. Thus I'm not gonna sign up, but I encourage others to.

Wait... we don't get to pick our own debates?

No, you get three topics and rate them 1 through 3 and be against someone which a semi-matching schedule.
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If the sky's the limit then why do we have footprints on the Moon? I'm shooting my aspirations for the stars.

"If you are going through hell, keep going." "Sir Winston Churchill

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." "Eleanor Roosevelt

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fire_wings
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7/27/2016 9:24:11 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/27/2016 7:46:19 PM, famousdebater wrote:
At 7/27/2016 7:39:07 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 6:01:54 PM, Hayd wrote:
I'm not going to sign up because I want to do debates on topics that I want to do. So although I like tournaments, if I do a tournament I won't have time for my own debates. Thus I'm not gonna sign up, but I encourage others to.

Wait... we don't get to pick our own debates?

No. Didn't you read the rules?

They weren't in the rules when I saw, but now I saw them.
#ALLHAILFIRETHEKINGOFTHEMISCFORUM

...it's not a new policy... it's just that DDO was built on an ancient burial ground, and that means the spirits of old rise again to cause us problems sometimes- Airmax1227

Wtf you must have an IQ of 250 if you're 11 and already decent at this- 16k

Go to sleep!!!!- missmozart

So to start off, I never committed suicide- Vaarka
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7/27/2016 9:24:50 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/27/2016 8:29:49 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/27/2016 7:39:07 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 6:01:54 PM, Hayd wrote:
I'm not going to sign up because I want to do debates on topics that I want to do. So although I like tournaments, if I do a tournament I won't have time for my own debates. Thus I'm not gonna sign up, but I encourage others to.

Wait... we don't get to pick our own debates?

No, you get three topics and rate them 1 through 3 and be against someone which a semi-matching schedule.

You just summarized what I read, I should have read this first.
#ALLHAILFIRETHEKINGOFTHEMISCFORUM

...it's not a new policy... it's just that DDO was built on an ancient burial ground, and that means the spirits of old rise again to cause us problems sometimes- Airmax1227

Wtf you must have an IQ of 250 if you're 11 and already decent at this- 16k

Go to sleep!!!!- missmozart

So to start off, I never committed suicide- Vaarka
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7/27/2016 9:33:55 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/27/2016 9:24:50 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 8:29:49 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/27/2016 7:39:07 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 6:01:54 PM, Hayd wrote:
I'm not going to sign up because I want to do debates on topics that I want to do. So although I like tournaments, if I do a tournament I won't have time for my own debates. Thus I'm not gonna sign up, but I encourage others to.

Wait... we don't get to pick our own debates?

No, you get three topics and rate them 1 through 3 and be against someone which a semi-matching schedule.

You just summarized what I read, I should have read this first.

Yep. :P
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If the sky's the limit then why do we have footprints on the Moon? I'm shooting my aspirations for the stars.

"If you are going through hell, keep going." "Sir Winston Churchill

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." "Eleanor Roosevelt

Topics I want to debate. (http://tinyurl.com...)
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7/27/2016 11:02:25 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/27/2016 9:33:55 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/27/2016 9:24:50 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 8:29:49 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/27/2016 7:39:07 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 6:01:54 PM, Hayd wrote:
I'm not going to sign up because I want to do debates on topics that I want to do. So although I like tournaments, if I do a tournament I won't have time for my own debates. Thus I'm not gonna sign up, but I encourage others to.

Wait... we don't get to pick our own debates?

No, you get three topics and rate them 1 through 3 and be against someone which a semi-matching schedule.

You just summarized what I read, I should have read this first.

Yep. :P

And, you're respresenting DDO, right?
#ALLHAILFIRETHEKINGOFTHEMISCFORUM

...it's not a new policy... it's just that DDO was built on an ancient burial ground, and that means the spirits of old rise again to cause us problems sometimes- Airmax1227

Wtf you must have an IQ of 250 if you're 11 and already decent at this- 16k

Go to sleep!!!!- missmozart

So to start off, I never committed suicide- Vaarka
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7/28/2016 1:31:45 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/27/2016 11:02:25 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 9:33:55 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/27/2016 9:24:50 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 8:29:49 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/27/2016 7:39:07 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 6:01:54 PM, Hayd wrote:
I'm not going to sign up because I want to do debates on topics that I want to do. So although I like tournaments, if I do a tournament I won't have time for my own debates. Thus I'm not gonna sign up, but I encourage others to.

Wait... we don't get to pick our own debates?

No, you get three topics and rate them 1 through 3 and be against someone which a semi-matching schedule.

You just summarized what I read, I should have read this first.

Yep. :P

And, you're respresenting DDO, right?

Obviously.
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If the sky's the limit then why do we have footprints on the Moon? I'm shooting my aspirations for the stars.

"If you are going through hell, keep going." "Sir Winston Churchill

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." "Eleanor Roosevelt

Topics I want to debate. (http://tinyurl.com...)
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7/28/2016 8:09:30 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/28/2016 1:31:45 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/27/2016 11:02:25 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 9:33:55 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/27/2016 9:24:50 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 8:29:49 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/27/2016 7:39:07 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 6:01:54 PM, Hayd wrote:
I'm not going to sign up because I want to do debates on topics that I want to do. So although I like tournaments, if I do a tournament I won't have time for my own debates. Thus I'm not gonna sign up, but I encourage others to.

Wait... we don't get to pick our own debates?

No, you get three topics and rate them 1 through 3 and be against someone which a semi-matching schedule.

You just summarized what I read, I should have read this first.

Yep. :P

And, you're respresenting DDO, right?

Obviously.

I thought you might represent edeb8, because you are #6 on it.
#ALLHAILFIRETHEKINGOFTHEMISCFORUM

...it's not a new policy... it's just that DDO was built on an ancient burial ground, and that means the spirits of old rise again to cause us problems sometimes- Airmax1227

Wtf you must have an IQ of 250 if you're 11 and already decent at this- 16k

Go to sleep!!!!- missmozart

So to start off, I never committed suicide- Vaarka
larztheloser
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7/28/2016 8:48:58 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
Answering questions:

You join the tournament by carefully reading the OP and following the instructions.

In the first WODC we let people pick topics and that kinda was a bummer because some people spent weeks picking a topic. The following year we introduced the Australs system and it worked pretty well. This will be repeated this year - you can read more about the Australs system from the link above. Basically you and your opponent work out one of 3 topics by a simple ranking system. It can be kinda strategic if you play it right.

And finally make sure to put who you are representing (presumably DDO) on your main public edeb8 profile, and also your DDO username so people can find you on both sites. Thanks to those of you who have done this :)
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7/28/2016 3:10:27 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/28/2016 8:48:58 AM, larztheloser wrote:
Answering questions:

You join the tournament by carefully reading the OP and following the instructions.

In the first WODC we let people pick topics and that kinda was a bummer because some people spent weeks picking a topic. The following year we introduced the Australs system and it worked pretty well. This will be repeated this year - you can read more about the Australs system from the link above. Basically you and your opponent work out one of 3 topics by a simple ranking system. It can be kinda strategic if you play it right.

And finally make sure to put who you are representing (presumably DDO) on your main public edeb8 profile, and also your DDO username so people can find you on both sites. Thanks to those of you who have done this :)

I've had my account for some time though.
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"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." "Eleanor Roosevelt

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7/28/2016 4:26:25 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/28/2016 8:48:58 AM, larztheloser wrote:
Answering questions:

You join the tournament by carefully reading the OP and following the instructions.

In the first WODC we let people pick topics and that kinda was a bummer because some people spent weeks picking a topic. The following year we introduced the Australs system and it worked pretty well. This will be repeated this year - you can read more about the Australs system from the link above. Basically you and your opponent work out one of 3 topics by a simple ranking system. It can be kinda strategic if you play it right.

And finally make sure to put who you are representing (presumably DDO) on your main public edeb8 profile, and also your DDO username so people can find you on both sites. Thanks to those of you who have done this :)

So for the Australs system, I know you can arrange the categories in order of how much u want it, but do u also get to place if you want pro or con?
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7/28/2016 4:32:46 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/28/2016 8:09:30 AM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/28/2016 1:31:45 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/27/2016 11:02:25 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 9:33:55 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/27/2016 9:24:50 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 8:29:49 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/27/2016 7:39:07 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 6:01:54 PM, Hayd wrote:
I'm not going to sign up because I want to do debates on topics that I want to do. So although I like tournaments, if I do a tournament I won't have time for my own debates. Thus I'm not gonna sign up, but I encourage others to.

Wait... we don't get to pick our own debates?

No, you get three topics and rate them 1 through 3 and be against someone which a semi-matching schedule.

You just summarized what I read, I should have read this first.

Yep. :P

And, you're respresenting DDO, right?

Obviously.

I thought you might represent edeb8, because you are #6 on it.

In ELO yeah, but I'm still team DDO since I put a lot more time and effort in over here.
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If the sky's the limit then why do we have footprints on the Moon? I'm shooting my aspirations for the stars.

"If you are going through hell, keep going." "Sir Winston Churchill

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." "Eleanor Roosevelt

Topics I want to debate. (http://tinyurl.com...)
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7/28/2016 5:01:49 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/28/2016 4:32:46 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/28/2016 8:09:30 AM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/28/2016 1:31:45 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/27/2016 11:02:25 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 9:33:55 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/27/2016 9:24:50 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 8:29:49 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/27/2016 7:39:07 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 6:01:54 PM, Hayd wrote:
I'm not going to sign up because I want to do debates on topics that I want to do. So although I like tournaments, if I do a tournament I won't have time for my own debates. Thus I'm not gonna sign up, but I encourage others to.

Wait... we don't get to pick our own debates?

No, you get three topics and rate them 1 through 3 and be against someone which a semi-matching schedule.

You just summarized what I read, I should have read this first.

Yep. :P

And, you're respresenting DDO, right?

Obviously.

I thought you might represent edeb8, because you are #6 on it.

In ELO yeah, but I'm still team DDO since I put a lot more time and effort in over here.

There is only one edeb8 member though.
#ALLHAILFIRETHEKINGOFTHEMISCFORUM

...it's not a new policy... it's just that DDO was built on an ancient burial ground, and that means the spirits of old rise again to cause us problems sometimes- Airmax1227

Wtf you must have an IQ of 250 if you're 11 and already decent at this- 16k

Go to sleep!!!!- missmozart

So to start off, I never committed suicide- Vaarka
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7/28/2016 5:15:08 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/28/2016 5:01:49 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/28/2016 4:32:46 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/28/2016 8:09:30 AM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/28/2016 1:31:45 AM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/27/2016 11:02:25 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 9:33:55 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/27/2016 9:24:50 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 8:29:49 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 7/27/2016 7:39:07 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 7/27/2016 6:01:54 PM, Hayd wrote:
I'm not going to sign up because I want to do debates on topics that I want to do. So although I like tournaments, if I do a tournament I won't have time for my own debates. Thus I'm not gonna sign up, but I encourage others to.

Wait... we don't get to pick our own debates?

No, you get three topics and rate them 1 through 3 and be against someone which a semi-matching schedule.

You just summarized what I read, I should have read this first.

Yep. :P

And, you're respresenting DDO, right?

Obviously.

I thought you might represent edeb8, because you are #6 on it.

In ELO yeah, but I'm still team DDO since I put a lot more time and effort in over here.

There is only one edeb8 member though.

So?
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If the sky's the limit then why do we have footprints on the Moon? I'm shooting my aspirations for the stars.

"If you are going through hell, keep going." "Sir Winston Churchill

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." "Eleanor Roosevelt

Topics I want to debate. (http://tinyurl.com...)
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