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Ore_Ele
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1/9/2011 10:17:21 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/9/2011 10:15:53 PM, frenchmoosetwo wrote:
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This is dealing with it, it's called "trying to change things."
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1/10/2011 9:56:59 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/10/2011 8:16:10 AM, PoeJoe wrote:
Some people don't believe in computers, and guess what? No DDO at all for them. :)

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1/10/2011 10:04:50 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/10/2011 8:16:10 AM, PoeJoe wrote:
Some people don't believe in computers, and guess what? No DDO at all for them. :)

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1/10/2011 12:29:42 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/9/2011 9:41:28 PM, crazybmanp wrote:
some people do not have cellphones... that is a problem.

I haven't been verified for a year. :)
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1/10/2011 3:42:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
wow, this site looks so cool when you first see it... then you run into the no voting with out a cellphone problem and meet the people that post here...
Cerebral_Narcissist
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1/10/2011 3:44:33 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
The verification system has greatly improved, now I can enter my phone number and be informed I got a text through. Still waiting on the actual text, but hey it's an improvement.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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1/10/2011 4:00:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Verification exists because it blunts attempts to multi-account. Multi-accounting has been severely abused in the past, so verification is worth its cost.
It used to be even worse, because international phone numbers were not accepted.

OP: Do you have an alternative idea? Email isn't good enough to do identity check for obvious reasons.
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1/10/2011 7:55:08 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
i agree that using cell phones is a pretty good system to verify, but some people do not have cell phones. and at that, some people do not have text messaging available on their cell phones. i also understand that it is extremely easy to get multiple email accounts.

short of allowing verification by landline, the only other options would be either allow e-mail verification at the fall-back of possibly allowing double-registrations; or alienate any users that are not able to verify with cellphones.
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1/10/2011 8:24:06 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/10/2011 7:55:08 PM, crazybmanp wrote:
i agree that using cell phones is a pretty good system to verify, but some people do not have cell phones. and at that, some people do not have text messaging available on their cell phones. i also understand that it is extremely easy to get multiple email accounts.

short of allowing verification by landline, the only other options would be either allow e-mail verification at the fall-back of possibly allowing double-registrations; or alienate any users that are not able to verify with cellphones.

Why don't you just find a friend who has a cellphone?
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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1/10/2011 9:31:53 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/10/2011 8:24:06 PM, askbob wrote:
At 1/10/2011 7:55:08 PM, crazybmanp wrote:
i agree that using cell phones is a pretty good system to verify, but some people do not have cell phones. and at that, some people do not have text messaging available on their cell phones. i also understand that it is extremely easy to get multiple email accounts.

short of allowing verification by landline, the only other options would be either allow e-mail verification at the fall-back of possibly allowing double-registrations; or alienate any users that are not able to verify with cellphones.

Why don't you just find a friend who has a cellphone?

I think you're assuming he has friends. XD
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wjmelements
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1/11/2011 3:06:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/10/2011 7:55:08 PM, crazybmanp wrote:
i agree that using cell phones is a pretty good system to verify, but some people do not have cell phones. and at that, some people do not have text messaging available on their cell phones. i also understand that it is extremely easy to get multiple email accounts.

short of allowing verification by landline, the only other options would be either allow e-mail verification at the fall-back of possibly allowing double-registrations; or alienate any users that are not able to verify with cellphones.

Double registrations weren't even the beginning. The vote-abuse of the past (under email address verification only) almost destroyed the site, so the lack of voting in part of the membership is well worth the cost. You aren't the only person here that can't vote, but until a working alternative is found, we're stuck as we are.
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1/11/2011 9:47:54 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
superboy's idea seems like it would work pretty well.

and i can't use my friends phones because they won't just let me use their text messaging randomly.
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1/11/2011 9:51:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/11/2011 9:47:54 PM, crazybmanp wrote:
superboy's idea seems like it would work pretty well.

and i can't use my friends phones because they won't just let me use their text messaging randomly.

Your friends must suck. One of my friends was cool with it when I needed (wanted, really) an extra account.
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1/11/2011 9:58:42 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
"they won't just let me use their text messaging randomly."

What great friends you have.
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
Cerebral_Narcissist
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1/12/2011 7:08:37 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
A true friend will help you bury a body.

If your friends won't even get a text on your behalf thats kinda sad.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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1/13/2011 9:36:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Perhaps if you're awesome, like this one guy I know, you'll be auto-confirmed.
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1/14/2011 1:45:12 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
who cares about voting??
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SportsGuru
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1/14/2011 2:19:04 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Whatever happened to ddofans/history of ddc project? Seems that would be a good addition to bring back to the site.

At 1/11/2011 5:11:30 PM, Superboy777 wrote:
wait

cant we just say that u have to be in 10 deabtes to be recognized?

thats what most sites do

So then I have two accounts and verify them by having one accept the others' debate 10 times.

Again, what we currently have may not be perfect, but its the best solution so far.
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1/14/2011 3:46:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/14/2011 3:25:10 PM, Superboy777 wrote:
yeah u could do taht, but why bother??
just so u can vote??
and aren't we still prohibiting multi accounts?

We have had major problems in the past with multi-accounts and vote-bombing. They have always been illegal.

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