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Sciguy
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10/10/2016 1:15:18 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
For more than a week the Opinions and Polls section on Debate.Org has not been updated and has not been working. This is a visible act of gross negligence from site moderators and the community.

It's apparent that the Moderators are not going to solve this issue and are going to leave it as it currently is.

The site... is dead!
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PetersSmith
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10/10/2016 1:24:45 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/10/2016 1:15:18 AM, Sciguy wrote:
For more than a week the Opinions and Polls section on Debate.Org has not been updated and has not been working. This is a visible act of gross negligence from site moderators and the community.

It's apparent that the Moderators are not going to solve this issue and are going to leave it as it currently is.

The site... is dead!

It's not the moderators' faults. It's the fact that Juggle no longer maintains this site. Max can only do so much to try to keep this site together, but his technical abilities are heavily limited. He is as irritated as you are with the state of this site and Juggle's inaction. However, blaming moderation and the community is wholly inaccurate.
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ThinkBig
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10/10/2016 2:39:15 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/10/2016 1:56:07 AM, Kove_Ducote wrote:
We need to advertise this site and hire some new moderation.

It's not the moderators...it's juggle.
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Sciguy
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10/10/2016 2:43:57 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
Well, someone needs to contact Juggle because this site isn't going to last much longer without some sort of intervention.
Sciguy, that one guy.
airmax1227
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10/10/2016 2:51:07 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/10/2016 2:43:57 AM, Sciguy wrote:
Well, someone needs to contact Juggle because this site isn't going to last much longer without some sort of intervention.

I agree, though blaming the community and "site moderators" (which means me), doesn't make any sense.... It's not the communities fault, nor my fault, for the lack of investment by the company that owns this site.

However, while I wont provide any specifics, I am optimistic about recent developments with Juggle.

So things are problematic and I recognize that. Juggle recognizes that too. But I, and others, are doing what we can, and I can only ask for you to be patient while we try to fix the problems.
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10/10/2016 2:59:05 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/10/2016 1:56:07 AM, Kove_Ducote wrote:
We need to advertise this site and hire some new moderation.

this has nothing to do with moderation. It has to do with the host site, juggle
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10/10/2016 3:27:13 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/10/2016 1:15:18 AM, Sciguy wrote:
For more than a week the Opinions and Polls section on Debate.Org has not been updated and has not been working. This is a visible act of gross negligence from site moderators and the community.

It's apparent that the Moderators are not going to solve this issue and are going to leave it as it currently is.

The site... is dead!

Polls seem fine to me... I'm able to vote on them, in any case.
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Kove_Ducote
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10/10/2016 4:29:42 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/10/2016 2:39:15 AM, ThinkBig wrote:
At 10/10/2016 1:56:07 AM, Kove_Ducote wrote:
We need to advertise this site and hire some new moderation.

It's not the moderators...it's juggle.

lolwat.

juggle doesn't have 100% control over the site.
ThinkBig
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10/10/2016 5:11:18 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/10/2016 4:29:42 AM, Kove_Ducote wrote:
At 10/10/2016 2:39:15 AM, ThinkBig wrote:
At 10/10/2016 1:56:07 AM, Kove_Ducote wrote:
We need to advertise this site and hire some new moderation.

It's not the moderators...it's juggle.

lolwat.

juggle doesn't have 100% control over the site.

Yes they technically do. They can do whatever they want with the site.
ThinkBig
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"I GOT SIG'D"
"WELL FVCK ME IN THE A$SHOLE AND CALL ME A CUCK I GOT SIG'D AGAIN"
-Kiri
If anyone's getting modkilled, it's kiri. Just for his sig.
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airmax1227
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10/10/2016 5:11:43 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/10/2016 4:29:42 AM, Kove_Ducote wrote:
At 10/10/2016 2:39:15 AM, ThinkBig wrote:
At 10/10/2016 1:56:07 AM, Kove_Ducote wrote:
We need to advertise this site and hire some new moderation.

It's not the moderators...it's juggle.

lolwat.

juggle doesn't have 100% control over the site.

Juggle is the company that owns the site, so they do in fact have 100% control over it.

If you are implying that Juggle is somehow beholden to me, and therefore it's "the moderators" (in other words me) that is responsible for the site's technical issues, then you are mistaken.

In any case, the reality is that sufficient resources aren't available on the site right now to deal with this stuff, I am however optimistic that solutions to this will develop soon.
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SeventhProfessor
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10/10/2016 6:01:46 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/10/2016 5:11:43 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 10/10/2016 4:29:42 AM, Kove_Ducote wrote:
At 10/10/2016 2:39:15 AM, ThinkBig wrote:
At 10/10/2016 1:56:07 AM, Kove_Ducote wrote:
We need to advertise this site and hire some new moderation.

It's not the moderators...it's juggle.

lolwat.

juggle doesn't have 100% control over the site.

Juggle is the company that owns the site, so they do in fact have 100% control over it.

If you are implying that Juggle is somehow beholden to me, and therefore it's "the moderators" (in other words me) that is responsible for the site's technical issues, then you are mistaken.

In any case, the reality is that sufficient resources aren't available on the site right now to deal with this stuff, I am however optimistic that solutions to this will develop soon.

Intellectually dishonest nonsense
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airmax1227
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10/10/2016 6:06:25 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/10/2016 6:01:46 AM, SeventhProfessor wrote:

Intellectually dishonest nonsense

I know you are just trolling, but I'll play along... Care to elaborate or be more specific?
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SeventhProfessor
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10/10/2016 6:08:09 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/10/2016 6:06:25 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 10/10/2016 6:01:46 AM, SeventhProfessor wrote:

Intellectually dishonest nonsense

I know you are just trolling, but I'll play along... Care to elaborate or be more specific?

A lot of what you're saying is technically correct, but the implication that you don't work for Juggle (and therefore can't fix the issues) is inaccurate.
#UnbanTheMadman

#StandWithBossy

#BetOnThett

"bossy r u like 85 years old and have lost ur mind"
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"I've honestly never seen seventh post anything that wasn't completely idiotic in a trying-to-be-funny way."
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airmax1227
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10/10/2016 6:09:53 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/10/2016 6:08:09 AM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 10/10/2016 6:06:25 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 10/10/2016 6:01:46 AM, SeventhProfessor wrote:

Intellectually dishonest nonsense

I know you are just trolling, but I'll play along... Care to elaborate or be more specific?

A lot of what you're saying is technically correct, but the implication that you don't work for Juggle (and therefore can't fix the issues) is inaccurate.

haha fair enough
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Raisor
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10/10/2016 12:07:24 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/10/2016 5:11:43 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 10/10/2016 4:29:42 AM, Kove_Ducote wrote:
At 10/10/2016 2:39:15 AM, ThinkBig wrote:
At 10/10/2016 1:56:07 AM, Kove_Ducote wrote:
We need to advertise this site and hire some new moderation.

It's not the moderators...it's juggle.

lolwat.

juggle doesn't have 100% control over the site.

Juggle is the company that owns the site, so they do in fact have 100% control over it.

If you are implying that Juggle is somehow beholden to me, and therefore it's "the moderators" (in other words me) that is responsible for the site's technical issues, then you are mistaken.

In any case, the reality is that sufficient resources aren't available on the site right now to deal with this stuff, I am however optimistic that solutions to this will develop soon.

Enough of your excuses Airmax, just fix the damn polls already
Kove_Ducote
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10/10/2016 11:31:43 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/10/2016 5:11:18 AM, ThinkBig wrote:
At 10/10/2016 4:29:42 AM, Kove_Ducote wrote:
At 10/10/2016 2:39:15 AM, ThinkBig wrote:
At 10/10/2016 1:56:07 AM, Kove_Ducote wrote:
We need to advertise this site and hire some new moderation.

It's not the moderators...it's juggle.

lolwat.

juggle doesn't have 100% control over the site.

Yes they technically do. They can do whatever they want with the site.

but they don't have all control over the site. silly. there are others.
ThinkBig
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10/10/2016 11:45:39 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/10/2016 11:31:43 PM, Kove_Ducote wrote:
At 10/10/2016 5:11:18 AM, ThinkBig wrote:
At 10/10/2016 4:29:42 AM, Kove_Ducote wrote:
At 10/10/2016 2:39:15 AM, ThinkBig wrote:
At 10/10/2016 1:56:07 AM, Kove_Ducote wrote:
We need to advertise this site and hire some new moderation.

It's not the moderators...it's juggle.

lolwat.

juggle doesn't have 100% control over the site.

Yes they technically do. They can do whatever they want with the site.

but they don't have all control over the site. silly. there are others.

Like...?
ThinkBig
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"I GOT SIG'D"
"WELL FVCK ME IN THE A$SHOLE AND CALL ME A CUCK I GOT SIG'D AGAIN"
-Kiri
If anyone's getting modkilled, it's kiri. Just for his sig.
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Quadrunner
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10/15/2016 4:05:46 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/10/2016 2:51:07 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 10/10/2016 2:43:57 AM, Sciguy wrote:
Well, someone needs to contact Juggle because this site isn't going to last much longer without some sort of intervention.

I agree, though blaming the community and "site moderators" (which means me), doesn't make any sense.... It's not the communities fault, nor my fault, for the lack of investment by the company that owns this site.

However, while I wont provide any specifics, I am optimistic about recent developments with Juggle.

So things are problematic and I recognize that. Juggle recognizes that too. But I, and others, are doing what we can, and I can only ask for you to be patient while we try to fix the problems.

What exactly is being done to fix the problems...And what are the problems, not the symptoms. What's seems to be the issue?
Wisdom is found where the wise seek it.
Quadrunner
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10/15/2016 4:20:22 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/10/2016 1:15:18 AM, Sciguy wrote:
For more than a week the Opinions and Polls section on Debate.Org has not been updated and has not been working. This is a visible act of gross negligence from site moderators and the community.

It's apparent that the Moderators are not going to solve this issue and are going to leave it as it currently is.

The site... is dead!

Please try to refrain from blindly accusing people. Others follow, and for what reason? We don't know, because we didn't do anything but see an issue and pick someone to blame. Progress involves solutions. Solutions generally require reliable information, intelligence, and knowledge on the subject at hand, none of which has been presented in this thread.

If you accuse someone of something, at the very least take the time to back it up logically, and then focus on solutions which are the ultimate goal and the larger task at hand. This may seem redundant to you because as we gain knowledge we tend to take it more and more for granted, but others are reading what you write as well, and need to see the information behind whatever claim you are making.
Wisdom is found where the wise seek it.
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10/15/2016 4:29:24 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/10/2016 3:37:05 PM, Sciguy wrote:
Make DDO GREAT AGAIN!!!

HAHAHA this is so funny because your OP reads a lot like Trumps campaign strategy. This website is better then the funnies.
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10/18/2016 9:58:56 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
Yay they're working again!!
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