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10/24/2016 9:38:22 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
The DDO Hall of Fame has already been improved by making it more exclusive, with it only occurring once a year. Though I would like to see many things changed concerning it (such as only allowing HOFers to vote in the nomination period), the only change that I would like to see which I think could be approved by the majority of DDOers that care about it, is my ideal for a grace period.

The voting period for the HOF happens shortly after the nomination period, which means that lesser known people, posts and debates have a disadvantage over more well known but possibly lower quality debates, people, and threads.

I am asking for DDO's support in strongly encouraging 2 week grace period between the end of HOF nominations and official voting. The 2 week grace period would allow supporters of each person,debate, or thread to make a good case for their respective choices. It would also give people the time to read through all of the nominated debates and threads to more intelligently make a decision on which ones to vote for.

As far as people are concerned, some nominees are unfamiliar to a lot of new members, people such as Phil or DarkKermit who may be superior to the more popular current members. The people who nominate the older users will have time to update us on why those individuals are important to the history of DDO. They can regale us with anecdotes for example and build on their legendary status.

What does everyone think of a 2 week grace period?
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10/24/2016 9:41:35 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/24/2016 9:38:22 PM, Wylted wrote:
The DDO Hall of Fame has already been improved by making it more exclusive, with it only occurring once a year. Though I would like to see many things changed concerning it (such as only allowing HOFers to vote in the nomination period), the only change that I would like to see which I think could be approved by the majority of DDOers that care about it, is my ideal for a grace period.

The voting period for the HOF happens shortly after the nomination period, which means that lesser known people, posts and debates have a disadvantage over more well known but possibly lower quality debates, people, and threads.

I am asking for DDO's support in strongly encouraging 2 week grace period between the end of HOF nominations and official voting. The 2 week grace period would allow supporters of each person,debate, or thread to make a good case for their respective choices. It would also give people the time to read through all of the nominated debates and threads to more intelligently make a decision on which ones to vote for.

As far as people are concerned, some nominees are unfamiliar to a lot of new members, people such as Phil or DarkKermit who may be superior to the more popular current members. The people who nominate the older users will have time to update us on why those individuals are important to the history of DDO. They can regale us with anecdotes for example and build on their legendary status.

What does everyone think of a 2 week grace period?

I like this idea.
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10/24/2016 9:42:46 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
I like this idea.

I hope most people do and the thread gets a big enough response to justify a change
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10/24/2016 9:47:52 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
Well-intentioned, but I fear it will turn the HoF into another drama fest. I oppose this, and may elaborate more later.
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10/24/2016 9:58:48 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
If it does, there are ways to fix that. I'm tired of seeing good things ruined because of drama that is easy enough to deal with, by implementing a couple of well placed and unburdensome policies.
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10/24/2016 11:05:42 PM
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At 10/24/2016 9:47:52 PM, SolonKR wrote:
Well-intentioned, but I fear it will turn the HoF into another drama fest. I oppose this, and may elaborate more later.

What's wrong with a drama fest? They're fun, and we haven't had a good one lately.
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10/24/2016 11:09:53 PM
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At 10/24/2016 9:38:22 PM, Wylted wrote:

I think it's a pretty good idea in theory, so long as it doesn't become a sh*t show like the DDO presidency. The HoF is meant to honor influential members, debates, and threads, not to cause feuding and drama.

Now that we are past the DDO election and the presidency in general, DDO is at the strange phase where there is little or no drama in the forums and I fear that with this grace period, that will flare up not only during the HoF nominations, but following. Granted, I have yet to witness any HoF nominations, but I am sure that with the proposed grace period, it would just ignite the drama fest.

However, I do think that it can work, despite this major issue.
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10/24/2016 11:17:57 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/24/2016 11:09:53 PM, missbailey8 wrote:
At 10/24/2016 9:38:22 PM, Wylted wrote:

I think it's a pretty good idea in theory, so long as it doesn't become a sh*t show like the DDO presidency. The HoF is meant to honor influential members, debates, and threads, not to cause feuding and drama.

http://m.imgur.com...

Now that we are past the DDO election and the presidency in general, DDO is at the strange phase where there is little or no drama in the forums and I fear that with this grace period, that will flare up not only during the HoF nominations, but following. Granted, I have yet to witness any HoF nominations, but I am sure that with the proposed grace period, it would just ignite the drama fest.

However, I do think that it can work, despite this major issue.
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10/24/2016 11:21:06 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/24/2016 11:17:57 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:09:53 PM, missbailey8 wrote:
At 10/24/2016 9:38:22 PM, Wylted wrote:

I think it's a pretty good idea in theory, so long as it doesn't become a sh*t show like the DDO presidency. The HoF is meant to honor influential members, debates, and threads, not to cause feuding and drama.

http://m.imgur.com...
http://tinyurl.com...

Now that we are past the DDO election and the presidency in general, DDO is at the strange phase where there is little or no drama in the forums and I fear that with this grace period, that will flare up not only during the HoF nominations, but following. Granted, I have yet to witness any HoF nominations, but I am sure that with the proposed grace period, it would just ignite the drama fest.

However, I do think that it can work, despite this major issue.
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10/24/2016 11:37:17 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/24/2016 11:21:06 PM, missbailey8 wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:17:57 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:09:53 PM, missbailey8 wrote:
At 10/24/2016 9:38:22 PM, Wylted wrote:

I think it's a pretty good idea in theory, so long as it doesn't become a sh*t show like the DDO presidency. The HoF is meant to honor influential members, debates, and threads, not to cause feuding and drama.

http://m.imgur.com...
http://tinyurl.com...

http://i2.cdn.turner.com...


Now that we are past the DDO election and the presidency in general, DDO is at the strange phase where there is little or no drama in the forums and I fear that with this grace period, that will flare up not only during the HoF nominations, but following. Granted, I have yet to witness any HoF nominations, but I am sure that with the proposed grace period, it would just ignite the drama fest.

However, I do think that it can work, despite this major issue.
#UnbanTheMadman

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10/24/2016 11:49:34 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/24/2016 9:38:22 PM, Wylted wrote:

The voting period for the HOF happens shortly after the nomination period, which means that lesser known people, posts and debates have a disadvantage over more well known but possibly lower quality debates, people, and threads.

Debates by lesser known people face a far greater challenge just getting nominated in the first place compared to getting support after already being nominated. There is also enough time once nominations begin for members to look at debates and decide which ones are the best as well.

The 2 week grace period would allow supporters of each person,debate, or thread to make a good case for their respective choices.

Because that wont divulge into a sh*tfest of drama......

Being nominated in the first place means there is already some agreement on the site that whoever got nominated deserves to be inducted. Having people split hairs over who should be inducted first though, especially for lower-tier members now that the most members have already been inducted, would not do any good since it just pits people against each other for who to vote for.

As far as people are concerned, some nominees are unfamiliar to a lot of new members, people such as Phil or DarkKermit who may be superior to the more popular current members. The people who nominate the older users will have time to update us on why those individuals are important to the history of DDO. They can regale us with anecdotes for example and build on their legendary status.

Which they can already do in the nominations threads themselves when explaining why they nominated those specific people. You dont need two weeks to dig up ancient history and make a case for a candidate

What does everyone think of a 2 week grace period?

Waste of time.
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10/24/2016 11:50:06 PM
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At 10/24/2016 11:37:17 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:21:06 PM, missbailey8 wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:17:57 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:09:53 PM, missbailey8 wrote:
At 10/24/2016 9:38:22 PM, Wylted wrote:

I think it's a pretty good idea in theory, so long as it doesn't become a sh*t show like the DDO presidency. The HoF is meant to honor influential members, debates, and threads, not to cause feuding and drama.

http://m.imgur.com...
http://tinyurl.com...

http://i2.cdn.turner.com...
http://m.imgur.com...



Now that we are past the DDO election and the presidency in general, DDO is at the strange phase where there is little or no drama in the forums and I fear that with this grace period, that will flare up not only during the HoF nominations, but following. Granted, I have yet to witness any HoF nominations, but I am sure that with the proposed grace period, it would just ignite the drama fest.

However, I do think that it can work, despite this major issue.
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10/24/2016 11:52:38 PM
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A moderate amount of drama is fine, and if something is a "shitfest" it says more about the members of DDO and DDO itself, than it does about whether there is something wrong with a particular thing.

The religous forum is not a shitfest because it discusses religion. It is a shitfest because about 5 members are allowed to remain who discourage intelligent discussion, driving away good posters and encouraging the mentally ill, as well as intellectually shallow people to remain and feel welcome.

Things of that nature are a symptom of the problem, and not a problem in and of itself.
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10/24/2016 11:59:33 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/24/2016 11:49:34 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/24/2016 9:38:22 PM, Wylted wrote:

The voting period for the HOF happens shortly after the nomination period, which means that lesser known people, posts and debates have a disadvantage over more well known but possibly lower quality debates, people, and threads.

Debates by lesser known people face a far greater challenge just getting nominated in the first place compared to getting support after already being nominated. There is also enough time once nominations begin for members to look at debates and decide which ones are the best as well.

The 2 week grace period would allow supporters of each person,debate, or thread to make a good case for their respective choices.

Because that wont divulge into a sh*tfest of drama......

That doesn't sound like something you would be opposed to.

Being nominated in the first place means there is already some agreement on the site that whoever got nominated deserves to be inducted. Having people split hairs over who should be inducted first though, especially for lower-tier members now that the most members have already been inducted, would not do any good since it just pits people against each other for who to vote for.

Not really, just a rare thread here and there, which act as a tribute.

As far as people are concerned, some nominees are unfamiliar to a lot of new members, people such as Phil or DarkKermit who may be superior to the more popular current members. The people who nominate the older users will have time to update us on why those individuals are important to the history of DDO. They can regale us with anecdotes for example and build on their legendary status.

Which they can already do in the nominations threads themselves when explaining why they nominated those specific people. You dont need two weeks to dig up ancient history and make a case for a candidate

I guess not, but it is hard to read through every single debate nominated and every single thread in it's entirety over a 3 day period.

What does everyone think of a 2 week grace period?

Waste of time.

Not really, it takes the same amount of time to do both, though one occurs over a longer period of time. it's still a total of ten minutes of work to set up both threads, they are just gapped further apart.
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10/25/2016 12:03:22 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/24/2016 11:50:06 PM, missbailey8 wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:37:17 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:21:06 PM, missbailey8 wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:17:57 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:09:53 PM, missbailey8 wrote:
At 10/24/2016 9:38:22 PM, Wylted wrote:

I think it's a pretty good idea in theory, so long as it doesn't become a sh*t show like the DDO presidency. The HoF is meant to honor influential members, debates, and threads, not to cause feuding and drama.

http://m.imgur.com...
http://tinyurl.com...

http://i2.cdn.turner.com...
http://m.imgur.com...

http://media1.s-nbcnews.com...
#UnbanTheMadman

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10/25/2016 12:07:18 AM
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At 10/25/2016 12:03:22 AM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:50:06 PM, missbailey8 wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:37:17 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:21:06 PM, missbailey8 wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:17:57 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:09:53 PM, missbailey8 wrote:
At 10/24/2016 9:38:22 PM, Wylted wrote:

I think it's a pretty good idea in theory, so long as it doesn't become a sh*t show like the DDO presidency. The HoF is meant to honor influential members, debates, and threads, not to cause feuding and drama.

http://m.imgur.com...
http://tinyurl.com...

http://i2.cdn.turner.com...
http://m.imgur.com...

http://media1.s-nbcnews.com...
http://crooksandliars.com...
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10/25/2016 12:09:46 AM
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At 10/25/2016 12:07:18 AM, missbailey8 wrote:
At 10/25/2016 12:03:22 AM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:50:06 PM, missbailey8 wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:37:17 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:21:06 PM, missbailey8 wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:17:57 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:09:53 PM, missbailey8 wrote:
At 10/24/2016 9:38:22 PM, Wylted wrote:

I think it's a pretty good idea in theory, so long as it doesn't become a sh*t show like the DDO presidency. The HoF is meant to honor influential members, debates, and threads, not to cause feuding and drama.

http://m.imgur.com...
http://tinyurl.com...

http://i2.cdn.turner.com...
http://m.imgur.com...

http://media1.s-nbcnews.com...
http://crooksandliars.com...

http://cdn.someecards.com...
#UnbanTheMadman

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10/25/2016 12:14:54 AM
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At 10/24/2016 9:47:52 PM, SolonKR wrote:
Well-intentioned, but I fear it will turn the HoF into another drama fest. I oppose this, and may elaborate more later.

I agree with this.

But I also object to the premise of Wylted's point. The HOF is, by definition, designed to honor famous entries. While I agree that assessments of quality are important to deciding how to vote, I also think that--at its core--the HOF was meant to be a popularity contest. It is reasonable to ask whether we should change its populist character as Wylted is proposing.

I think another problem with Wylted's assessment is that no one should be making cases for entries at all. Permitting vote lobbying will, as Solon mentioned, make the HOF more like the Presidential elections, which were famously drama-ridden. I don't think that is wise. I also think that instead of allowing members to make up their own minds about entries, Wylted's proposal may make people more likely to vote for entries who have vociferous or articulate cases made for them, rather than for entries who may otherwise be deserving.

In other words, Wylted complains about lesser known nominations not receiving attention. But in a world where people can debate the nominations like he proposes, some nominations are going to be drown out in the noise or are not going to be ardently touted in those debates. This just substitutes one kind of obscurity with another, and so it does not solve the core problem Wylted wants to address.

Finally, if people don't appreciate the lesser known entries, there not likely to make it past the nomination phase in the first place, so I don't get the point of this suggestion.
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10/25/2016 1:09:40 AM
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At 10/24/2016 11:59:33 PM, Wylted wrote:
At 10/24/2016 11:49:34 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/24/2016 9:38:22 PM, Wylted wrote:

The voting period for the HOF happens shortly after the nomination period, which means that lesser known people, posts and debates have a disadvantage over more well known but possibly lower quality debates, people, and threads.

Debates by lesser known people face a far greater challenge just getting nominated in the first place compared to getting support after already being nominated. There is also enough time once nominations begin for members to look at debates and decide which ones are the best as well.

The 2 week grace period would allow supporters of each person,debate, or thread to make a good case for their respective choices.

Because that wont divulge into a sh*tfest of drama......

That doesn't sound like something you would be opposed to.

Concession #1

Being nominated in the first place means there is already some agreement on the site that whoever got nominated deserves to be inducted. Having people split hairs over who should be inducted first though, especially for lower-tier members now that the most members have already been inducted, would not do any good since it just pits people against each other for who to vote for.

Not really, just a rare thread here and there, which act as a tribute.

People dont need 2 weeks to make a tribute thread, and its doubtful anyone would even make a thread in the first place since all the 'no brainer' members who deserve to be in the HoF are already there.

As far as people are concerned, some nominees are unfamiliar to a lot of new members, people such as Phil or DarkKermit who may be superior to the more popular current members. The people who nominate the older users will have time to update us on why those individuals are important to the history of DDO. They can regale us with anecdotes for example and build on their legendary status.

Which they can already do in the nominations threads themselves when explaining why they nominated those specific people. You dont need two weeks to dig up ancient history and make a case for a candidate

I guess not,

Concession #2

but it is hard to read through every single debate nominated and every single thread in it's entirety over a 3 day period.

Not really. You only need maybe 2 or 3 hours to ping-pong from one to the other. If you vote on any debate, 20% of the time spent is from reading the actual arguments, and the other 80% is phrasing your vote so that it wont get deleted by mods for artificial reasons.

What does everyone think of a 2 week grace period?

Waste of time.

Not really, it takes the same amount of time to do both, though one occurs over a longer period of time. it's still a total of ten minutes of work to set up both threads, they are just gapped further apart.

You're proposing fixing a problem that doesnt exist with a solution that wont fix it.
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10/25/2016 7:31:42 PM
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At 10/24/2016 9:38:22 PM, Wylted wrote:
The DDO Hall of Fame has already been improved by making it more exclusive, with it only occurring once a year. Though I would like to see many things changed concerning it (such as only allowing HOFers to vote in the nomination period), the only change that I would like to see which I think could be approved by the majority of DDOers that care about it, is my ideal for a grace period.

The voting period for the HOF happens shortly after the nomination period, which means that lesser known people, posts and debates have a disadvantage over more well known but possibly lower quality debates, people, and threads.

I am asking for DDO's support in strongly encouraging 2 week grace period between the end of HOF nominations and official voting. The 2 week grace period would allow supporters of each person,debate, or thread to make a good case for their respective choices. It would also give people the time to read through all of the nominated debates and threads to more intelligently make a decision on which ones to vote for.

As far as people are concerned, some nominees are unfamiliar to a lot of new members, people such as Phil or DarkKermit who may be superior to the more popular current members. The people who nominate the older users will have time to update us on why those individuals are important to the history of DDO. They can regale us with anecdotes for example and build on their legendary status.

What does everyone think of a 2 week grace period?

I see your point and think it's a good one at its core. Giving the newer members of the community a couple weeks to research and familiarize themselves with the nominees would lead to a more educated decision come voting but, if anything, I think that's all that the 2 week period should be used for, rather than also being used for campaigning. Even if we do implement that period though, how can we reasonably curb any campaign attempts that would occur during that period? We could ban nominees from campaigning but that doesn't stop friends or supporters from acting on their behalf, and campaigning, in any form, is a recipe for drama here. Unfortunately that's the crux of the issue, we are a community that is prone to increased levels of drama during such events, and I don't want to see us fall back on the progress that has been made since the last election.

At the very least, parts of the issue you raised have obviously occurred in past HoF cycles and this proposal begs the question of whether or not these issues are going to seriously impact the coming HoF induction process in a negative way. I think we should observe this coming round to see if it does or not.

A wise course of action, for anyone reading this right now, would be to start familiarizing themselves with the active user-base. Sure there are older, non-active, members who are certainly deserving of a spot in the HoF, but this community is made up of an evolving and ever-changing userbase. I have always viewed the HoF induction process to be one driven by two factors - member accomplishments and member popularity. Those who are either popular or have accomplished alot on this site are those who get in, and both qualities are often necessary. The point being, it's more likely than not that those who are both popular and accomplished are those who have the highest odds of getting in, and missing either of those qualities greatly reduces those odds.

So, those who are nominated are already popular (and there's nothing we can do about the lack of popularity of non-active, older members), but I think the 2 week grace period would serve well if used solely as a research period giving newer members the chance to review the accomplishments of the nominees. It's just implementing that in a way that would reasonably work without inducing unnecessary drama that's key, and whether or not this issue even calls for such a change.
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10/26/2016 2:23:04 AM
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At 10/25/2016 7:31:42 PM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
So, those who are nominated are already popular (and there's nothing we can do about the lack of popularity of non-active, older members), but I think the 2 week grace period would serve well if used solely as a research period giving newer members the chance to review the accomplishments of the nominees.

I would note, that since the HOF voting and nominating threads are open for 5-7 days, people already have plenty of time to do research on the nominees.
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10/26/2016 5:24:46 AM
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At 10/26/2016 2:23:04 AM, bsh1 wrote:
At 10/25/2016 7:31:42 PM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
So, those who are nominated are already popular (and there's nothing we can do about the lack of popularity of non-active, older members), but I think the 2 week grace period would serve well if used solely as a research period giving newer members the chance to review the accomplishments of the nominees.

I would note, that since the HOF voting and nominating threads are open for 5-7 days, people already have plenty of time to do research on the nominees.

Yeah, I emphasized that part because it's really the only benefit I could see in this proposal, but I agree that the usual 5-7 days would be plenty of time.
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10/27/2016 12:34:18 AM
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