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GrimlyF
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10/30/2016 5:17:05 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
When is Debate.org going to remove old long finished debates?.Why put up a debate on a subject when it is apparently already being debated then going to the debate you find it was ended for whatever reason over a year ago.These debates are defunct.Delete them.
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10/30/2016 6:54:21 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/30/2016 5:17:05 PM, GrimlyF wrote:
When is Debate.org going to remove old long finished debates?.Why put up a debate on a subject when it is apparently already being debated then going to the debate you find it was ended for whatever reason over a year ago.These debates are defunct.Delete them.

Because not all debates are the same, and there's value to all debates, regardless of when they happened. Frankly, if a subject has been debated already, that's all the more reason to revisit it with more depth or a different mindset. These debates aren't harmful to keep up on the site, and it's nice to see how others have approached a given topic, particularly if you're new to debate.
GrimlyF
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10/31/2016 6:56:56 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/30/2016 6:54:21 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 10/30/2016 5:17:05 PM, GrimlyF wrote:
When is Debate.org going to remove old long finished debates?.Why put up a debate on a subject when it is apparently already being debated then going to the debate you find it was ended for whatever reason over a year ago.These debates are defunct.Delete them.

Because not all debates are the same, and there's value to all debates, regardless of when they happened. Frankly, if a subject has been debated already, that's all the more reason to revisit it with more depth or a different mindset. These debates aren't harmful to keep up on the site, and it's nice to see how others have approached a given topic, particularly if you're new to debate.
"See how others have approached a given topic".Do you mean plagiarism?Cribbing from anothers work?Shame on you!!.When you enter a debate no other opinion matters but yours,no facts and figures stated that you have not garnered for your self.These debates are 1/1, your knowledge,your intellect and your honesty are what counts.Your intellectual rigour must prove equal to the efforts needed to fence with your opponent.Read others arguments?.Again,shame on you.
See the happy moron: he doesn't give a damn:I wish I were a moron:My God! perhaps I am!. Anonymous.
Vaarka
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10/31/2016 7:00:38 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/31/2016 6:56:56 PM, GrimlyF wrote:
At 10/30/2016 6:54:21 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 10/30/2016 5:17:05 PM, GrimlyF wrote:
When is Debate.org going to remove old long finished debates?.Why put up a debate on a subject when it is apparently already being debated then going to the debate you find it was ended for whatever reason over a year ago.These debates are defunct.Delete them.

Because not all debates are the same, and there's value to all debates, regardless of when they happened. Frankly, if a subject has been debated already, that's all the more reason to revisit it with more depth or a different mindset. These debates aren't harmful to keep up on the site, and it's nice to see how others have approached a given topic, particularly if you're new to debate.
"See how others have approached a given topic".Do you mean plagiarism?Cribbing from anothers work?Shame on you!!.When you enter a debate no other opinion matters but yours,no facts and figures stated that you have not garnered for your self.These debates are 1/1, your knowledge,your intellect and your honesty are what counts.Your intellectual rigour must prove equal to the efforts needed to fence with your opponent.Read others arguments?.Again,shame on you.

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whiteflame
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10/31/2016 7:48:10 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/31/2016 6:56:56 PM, GrimlyF wrote:
At 10/30/2016 6:54:21 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 10/30/2016 5:17:05 PM, GrimlyF wrote:
When is Debate.org going to remove old long finished debates?.Why put up a debate on a subject when it is apparently already being debated then going to the debate you find it was ended for whatever reason over a year ago.These debates are defunct.Delete them.

Because not all debates are the same, and there's value to all debates, regardless of when they happened. Frankly, if a subject has been debated already, that's all the more reason to revisit it with more depth or a different mindset. These debates aren't harmful to keep up on the site, and it's nice to see how others have approached a given topic, particularly if you're new to debate.
"See how others have approached a given topic".Do you mean plagiarism?Cribbing from anothers work?Shame on you!!.When you enter a debate no other opinion matters but yours,no facts and figures stated that you have not garnered for your self.These debates are 1/1, your knowledge,your intellect and your honesty are what counts.Your intellectual rigour must prove equal to the efforts needed to fence with your opponent.Read others arguments?.Again,shame on you.

...Seriously? Just because you read and understand how others approached a given topic doesn't mean you're going to copy from them. Seeing how others tackled a given topic may help inform your structure, what you emphasize and what not to do just as much as what to do. Assuming that everyone who reads the debates of another will simply go on to repeat those arguments verbatim is not only wrong, it's insulting. People can and do garner information and process that information without just parroting.

But that's really beside the point. We don't generate our arguments in a vacuum, and we shouldn't pretend that we do. We find facts and figures on external sites, often on sites where people take clear positions on a given topic. We use their sources and often the context for those sources to build our own positions within a debate. If we didn't, then we would never build on our knowledge, our points would mainly be mired in hearsay, and our debating technique would remain stagnant. Debating is chiefly a learning activity, and when you shame others for engaging in that learning, you debase the meaning of that activity. If someone engages in plagiarism, then they should rightly be shamed. If, however, they carefully cite their sources and explain their arguments in their own words, that's worthy of merit.
GrimlyF
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11/1/2016 1:53:54 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/31/2016 7:48:10 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 10/31/2016 6:56:56 PM, GrimlyF wrote:
At 10/30/2016 6:54:21 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 10/30/2016 5:17:05 PM, GrimlyF wrote:
When is Debate.org going to remove old long finished debates?.Why put up a debate on a subject when it is apparently already being debated then going to the debate you find it was ended for whatever reason over a year ago.These debates are defunct.Delete them.

Because not all debates are the same, and there's value to all debates, regardless of when they happened. Frankly, if a subject has been debated already, that's all the more reason to revisit it with more depth or a different mindset. These debates aren't harmful to keep up on the site, and it's nice to see how others have approached a given topic, particularly if you're new to debate.
"See how others have approached a given topic".Do you mean plagiarism?Cribbing from anothers work?Shame on you!!.When you enter a debate no other opinion matters but yours,no facts and figures stated that you have not garnered for your self.These debates are 1/1, your knowledge,your intellect and your honesty are what counts.Your intellectual rigour must prove equal to the efforts needed to fence with your opponent.Read others arguments?.Again,shame on you.

...Seriously? Just because you read and understand how others approached a given topic doesn't mean you're going to copy from them. Seeing how others tackled a given topic may help inform your structure, what you emphasize and what not to do just as much as what to do. Assuming that everyone who reads the debates of another will simply go on to repeat those arguments verbatim is not only wrong, it's insulting. People can and do garner information and process that information without just parroting.

But that's really beside the point. We don't generate our arguments in a vacuum, and we shouldn't pretend that we do. We find facts and figures on external sites, often on sites where people take clear positions on a given topic. We use their sources and often the context for those sources to build our own positions within a debate. If we didn't, then we would never build on our knowledge, our points would mainly be mired in hearsay, and our debating technique would remain stagnant. Debating is chiefly a learning activity, and when you shame others for engaging in that learning, you debase the meaning of that activity. If someone engages in plagiarism, then they should rightly be shamed. If, however, they carefully cite their sources and explain their arguments in their own words, that's worthy of merit.
Actually I was being playful.(Perhaps English humour doesn't travel well!!).
See the happy moron: he doesn't give a damn:I wish I were a moron:My God! perhaps I am!. Anonymous.
whiteflame
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11/1/2016 3:34:05 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/1/2016 1:53:54 AM, GrimlyF wrote:
At 10/31/2016 7:48:10 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 10/31/2016 6:56:56 PM, GrimlyF wrote:
At 10/30/2016 6:54:21 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 10/30/2016 5:17:05 PM, GrimlyF wrote:
When is Debate.org going to remove old long finished debates?.Why put up a debate on a subject when it is apparently already being debated then going to the debate you find it was ended for whatever reason over a year ago.These debates are defunct.Delete them.

Because not all debates are the same, and there's value to all debates, regardless of when they happened. Frankly, if a subject has been debated already, that's all the more reason to revisit it with more depth or a different mindset. These debates aren't harmful to keep up on the site, and it's nice to see how others have approached a given topic, particularly if you're new to debate.
"See how others have approached a given topic".Do you mean plagiarism?Cribbing from anothers work?Shame on you!!.When you enter a debate no other opinion matters but yours,no facts and figures stated that you have not garnered for your self.These debates are 1/1, your knowledge,your intellect and your honesty are what counts.Your intellectual rigour must prove equal to the efforts needed to fence with your opponent.Read others arguments?.Again,shame on you.

...Seriously? Just because you read and understand how others approached a given topic doesn't mean you're going to copy from them. Seeing how others tackled a given topic may help inform your structure, what you emphasize and what not to do just as much as what to do. Assuming that everyone who reads the debates of another will simply go on to repeat those arguments verbatim is not only wrong, it's insulting. People can and do garner information and process that information without just parroting.

But that's really beside the point. We don't generate our arguments in a vacuum, and we shouldn't pretend that we do. We find facts and figures on external sites, often on sites where people take clear positions on a given topic. We use their sources and often the context for those sources to build our own positions within a debate. If we didn't, then we would never build on our knowledge, our points would mainly be mired in hearsay, and our debating technique would remain stagnant. Debating is chiefly a learning activity, and when you shame others for engaging in that learning, you debase the meaning of that activity. If someone engages in plagiarism, then they should rightly be shamed. If, however, they carefully cite their sources and explain their arguments in their own words, that's worthy of merit.
Actually I was being playful.(Perhaps English humour doesn't travel well!!).

It's difficult to perceive sarcasm through a computer.
PetersSmith
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11/1/2016 3:36:04 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/1/2016 3:34:05 AM, whiteflame wrote:
At 11/1/2016 1:53:54 AM, GrimlyF wrote:
At 10/31/2016 7:48:10 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 10/31/2016 6:56:56 PM, GrimlyF wrote:
At 10/30/2016 6:54:21 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 10/30/2016 5:17:05 PM, GrimlyF wrote:
When is Debate.org going to remove old long finished debates?.Why put up a debate on a subject when it is apparently already being debated then going to the debate you find it was ended for whatever reason over a year ago.These debates are defunct.Delete them.

Because not all debates are the same, and there's value to all debates, regardless of when they happened. Frankly, if a subject has been debated already, that's all the more reason to revisit it with more depth or a different mindset. These debates aren't harmful to keep up on the site, and it's nice to see how others have approached a given topic, particularly if you're new to debate.
"See how others have approached a given topic".Do you mean plagiarism?Cribbing from anothers work?Shame on you!!.When you enter a debate no other opinion matters but yours,no facts and figures stated that you have not garnered for your self.These debates are 1/1, your knowledge,your intellect and your honesty are what counts.Your intellectual rigour must prove equal to the efforts needed to fence with your opponent.Read others arguments?.Again,shame on you.

...Seriously? Just because you read and understand how others approached a given topic doesn't mean you're going to copy from them. Seeing how others tackled a given topic may help inform your structure, what you emphasize and what not to do just as much as what to do. Assuming that everyone who reads the debates of another will simply go on to repeat those arguments verbatim is not only wrong, it's insulting. People can and do garner information and process that information without just parroting.

But that's really beside the point. We don't generate our arguments in a vacuum, and we shouldn't pretend that we do. We find facts and figures on external sites, often on sites where people take clear positions on a given topic. We use their sources and often the context for those sources to build our own positions within a debate. If we didn't, then we would never build on our knowledge, our points would mainly be mired in hearsay, and our debating technique would remain stagnant. Debating is chiefly a learning activity, and when you shame others for engaging in that learning, you debase the meaning of that activity. If someone engages in plagiarism, then they should rightly be shamed. If, however, they carefully cite their sources and explain their arguments in their own words, that's worthy of merit.
Actually I was being playful.(Perhaps English humour doesn't travel well!!).

It's difficult to perceive sarcasm through a computer.

I thought you were a computer?
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whiteflame
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11/1/2016 4:07:41 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/1/2016 3:36:04 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 11/1/2016 3:34:05 AM, whiteflame wrote:
At 11/1/2016 1:53:54 AM, GrimlyF wrote:
At 10/31/2016 7:48:10 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 10/31/2016 6:56:56 PM, GrimlyF wrote:
At 10/30/2016 6:54:21 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 10/30/2016 5:17:05 PM, GrimlyF wrote:
When is Debate.org going to remove old long finished debates?.Why put up a debate on a subject when it is apparently already being debated then going to the debate you find it was ended for whatever reason over a year ago.These debates are defunct.Delete them.

Because not all debates are the same, and there's value to all debates, regardless of when they happened. Frankly, if a subject has been debated already, that's all the more reason to revisit it with more depth or a different mindset. These debates aren't harmful to keep up on the site, and it's nice to see how others have approached a given topic, particularly if you're new to debate.
"See how others have approached a given topic".Do you mean plagiarism?Cribbing from anothers work?Shame on you!!.When you enter a debate no other opinion matters but yours,no facts and figures stated that you have not garnered for your self.These debates are 1/1, your knowledge,your intellect and your honesty are what counts.Your intellectual rigour must prove equal to the efforts needed to fence with your opponent.Read others arguments?.Again,shame on you.

...Seriously? Just because you read and understand how others approached a given topic doesn't mean you're going to copy from them. Seeing how others tackled a given topic may help inform your structure, what you emphasize and what not to do just as much as what to do. Assuming that everyone who reads the debates of another will simply go on to repeat those arguments verbatim is not only wrong, it's insulting. People can and do garner information and process that information without just parroting.

But that's really beside the point. We don't generate our arguments in a vacuum, and we shouldn't pretend that we do. We find facts and figures on external sites, often on sites where people take clear positions on a given topic. We use their sources and often the context for those sources to build our own positions within a debate. If we didn't, then we would never build on our knowledge, our points would mainly be mired in hearsay, and our debating technique would remain stagnant. Debating is chiefly a learning activity, and when you shame others for engaging in that learning, you debase the meaning of that activity. If someone engages in plagiarism, then they should rightly be shamed. If, however, they carefully cite their sources and explain their arguments in their own words, that's worthy of merit.
Actually I was being playful.(Perhaps English humour doesn't travel well!!).

It's difficult to perceive sarcasm through a computer.

I thought you were a computer?

...You know too much.
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11/1/2016 4:43:13 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/1/2016 4:07:41 AM, whiteflame wrote:
At 11/1/2016 3:36:04 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 11/1/2016 3:34:05 AM, whiteflame wrote:
At 11/1/2016 1:53:54 AM, GrimlyF wrote:
At 10/31/2016 7:48:10 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 10/31/2016 6:56:56 PM, GrimlyF wrote:
At 10/30/2016 6:54:21 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 10/30/2016 5:17:05 PM, GrimlyF wrote:
When is Debate.org going to remove old long finished debates?.Why put up a debate on a subject when it is apparently already being debated then going to the debate you find it was ended for whatever reason over a year ago.These debates are defunct.Delete them.

Because not all debates are the same, and there's value to all debates, regardless of when they happened. Frankly, if a subject has been debated already, that's all the more reason to revisit it with more depth or a different mindset. These debates aren't harmful to keep up on the site, and it's nice to see how others have approached a given topic, particularly if you're new to debate.
"See how others have approached a given topic".Do you mean plagiarism?Cribbing from anothers work?Shame on you!!.When you enter a debate no other opinion matters but yours,no facts and figures stated that you have not garnered for your self.These debates are 1/1, your knowledge,your intellect and your honesty are what counts.Your intellectual rigour must prove equal to the efforts needed to fence with your opponent.Read others arguments?.Again,shame on you.

...Seriously? Just because you read and understand how others approached a given topic doesn't mean you're going to copy from them. Seeing how others tackled a given topic may help inform your structure, what you emphasize and what not to do just as much as what to do. Assuming that everyone who reads the debates of another will simply go on to repeat those arguments verbatim is not only wrong, it's insulting. People can and do garner information and process that information without just parroting.

But that's really beside the point. We don't generate our arguments in a vacuum, and we shouldn't pretend that we do. We find facts and figures on external sites, often on sites where people take clear positions on a given topic. We use their sources and often the context for those sources to build our own positions within a debate. If we didn't, then we would never build on our knowledge, our points would mainly be mired in hearsay, and our debating technique would remain stagnant. Debating is chiefly a learning activity, and when you shame others for engaging in that learning, you debase the meaning of that activity. If someone engages in plagiarism, then they should rightly be shamed. If, however, they carefully cite their sources and explain their arguments in their own words, that's worthy of merit.
Actually I was being playful.(Perhaps English humour doesn't travel well!!).

It's difficult to perceive sarcasm through a computer.

I thought you were a computer?

...You know too much.

Beep boop beep.
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"The two most important days in your life is the day you were born, and the day you find out why."
~Mark Twain

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11/1/2016 9:14:21 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 11/1/2016 4:07:41 AM, whiteflame wrote:
At 11/1/2016 3:36:04 AM, PetersSmith wrote:
At 11/1/2016 3:34:05 AM, whiteflame wrote:
At 11/1/2016 1:53:54 AM, GrimlyF wrote:
At 10/31/2016 7:48:10 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 10/31/2016 6:56:56 PM, GrimlyF wrote:
At 10/30/2016 6:54:21 PM, whiteflame wrote:
At 10/30/2016 5:17:05 PM, GrimlyF wrote:
When is Debate.org going to remove old long finished debates?.Why put up a debate on a subject when it is apparently already being debated then going to the debate you find it was ended for whatever reason over a year ago.These debates are defunct.Delete them.

Because not all debates are the same, and there's value to all debates, regardless of when they happened. Frankly, if a subject has been debated already, that's all the more reason to revisit it with more depth or a different mindset. These debates aren't harmful to keep up on the site, and it's nice to see how others have approached a given topic, particularly if you're new to debate.
"See how others have approached a given topic".Do you mean plagiarism?Cribbing from anothers work?Shame on you!!.When you enter a debate no other opinion matters but yours,no facts and figures stated that you have not garnered for your self.These debates are 1/1, your knowledge,your intellect and your honesty are what counts.Your intellectual rigour must prove equal to the efforts needed to fence with your opponent.Read others arguments?.Again,shame on you.

...Seriously? Just because you read and understand how others approached a given topic doesn't mean you're going to copy from them. Seeing how others tackled a given topic may help inform your structure, what you emphasize and what not to do just as much as what to do. Assuming that everyone who reads the debates of another will simply go on to repeat those arguments verbatim is not only wrong, it's insulting. People can and do garner information and process that information without just parroting.

But that's really beside the point. We don't generate our arguments in a vacuum, and we shouldn't pretend that we do. We find facts and figures on external sites, often on sites where people take clear positions on a given topic. We use their sources and often the context for those sources to build our own positions within a debate. If we didn't, then we would never build on our knowledge, our points would mainly be mired in hearsay, and our debating technique would remain stagnant. Debating is chiefly a learning activity, and when you shame others for engaging in that learning, you debase the meaning of that activity. If someone engages in plagiarism, then they should rightly be shamed. If, however, they carefully cite their sources and explain their arguments in their own words, that's worthy of merit.
Actually I was being playful.(Perhaps English humour doesn't travel well!!).

It's difficult to perceive sarcasm through a computer.

I thought you were a computer?

...You know too much.

lol