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askbob
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1/31/2011 7:29:33 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
has a multi-account known as Clockwork_Assassin

And admitted it publicly in the forums.

I reported this matter to Julia a week ago but got no response and he has not been banned.
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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1/31/2011 7:30:09 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Admission:

http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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1/31/2011 7:32:28 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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1/31/2011 7:58:04 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/31/2011 7:30:09 AM, askbob wrote:
Admission:

http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...

Where was the admission?

http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...

What exactly makes you think they are the same besides living in california with the age being in the 20's?
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1/31/2011 7:58:43 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Sorry 48 and 22. I thought that was 28 for some reason :/
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1/31/2011 8:02:50 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/31/2011 1:44:58 AM, askbob wrote:
1. Logic_on_rails
2.
3. m93samman
4. ASB
5. Timbeech
6. Cosmic Alfonzo
7. Atheism

I'm pretty sure Clockwork Assassin is ASB's second account therefore I'm going to have to say no to you joining this game.

At 1/31/2011 1:54:31 AM, ASB wrote:
It took u long enough askbob lol
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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1/31/2011 8:09:53 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/31/2011 7:58:04 AM, lovelife wrote:
What exactly makes you think they are the same besides living in california with the age being in the 20's?

Check out most of ASB's debates

Also know that Clockwork_Assassin's votes on my debates with ASB were vote bombs and unexplained until I asked him to explain.

Furthermore i only told ASB about my mafia game, yet Clockwork assassin signs up shortly after ASB logs out. ClockworkAssassin had no clue about the game or what it was.

I've been monitoring their login/logout patterns and it fits

I messaged Clockwork Assassin and ASB responded in a pm asking me why I was questioning members about their votes and that I was stupid.
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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1/31/2011 8:20:04 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
He's also a serial spammer. Get rid of him.
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1/31/2011 10:32:26 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/31/2011 8:02:50 AM, askbob wrote:
At 1/31/2011 1:44:58 AM, askbob wrote:
1. Logic_on_rails
2.
3. m93samman
4. ASB
5. Timbeech
6. Cosmic Alfonzo
7. Atheism

I'm pretty sure Clockwork Assassin is ASB's second account therefore I'm going to have to say no to you joining this game.

At 1/31/2011 1:54:31 AM, ASB wrote:
It took u long enough askbob lol

oh
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1/31/2011 10:34:51 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/31/2011 8:20:04 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
He's also a serial spammer. Get rid of him.

I've seen worse.
jimprofit, ccstate, charles, hell if its just spammers then brian, freedo, and koopin are on the list to.
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1/31/2011 10:48:18 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
He's a multi-accounter, vote bomber, as well as someone who attempted to cheat in mafia games
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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1/31/2011 10:57:42 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/31/2011 10:34:51 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 1/31/2011 8:20:04 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
He's also a serial spammer. Get rid of him.

I've seen worse.
jimprofit, ccstate, charles, hell if its just spammers then brian, freedo, and koopin are on the list to.

Wait, what the hell? I don't post stuff for absolutely no reason. The only thing I have in common with those guys is multi-accounting, but I used my other accounts for novelty purposes, not for malicious purposes like those guys.
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1/31/2011 3:56:42 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
ASB has also admitted here:

That he uses his stepfather's account to votebomb. All of his stepfathers votes should be removed and both offenders should be banned
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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1/31/2011 3:57:59 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
http://www.debate.org...

Comments section:

Posted by ASB 3 hours ago
ASB
after reading the last comment... change of category.

after i finish my first round, i will turn off my stepfather's account.

Posted by annhasle 5 hours ago
annhasle
You obviously know nothing of anarchy....

Posted by bluesteel 5 hours ago
bluesteel
I'll take this when you've closed your other account that you use to vote-bomb.
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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1/31/2011 4:30:56 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/31/2011 7:29:33 AM, askbob wrote:
I reported this matter to Julia a week ago but got no response and he has not been banned.

I haven't gotten answers back from Julia on anything for weeks, either. Strange...
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1/31/2011 4:35:07 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Tuesday, January 25, 2011 @ 1:36:26 PM
Posted by:
askbob

Would you mind?

IP scanning these accounts:

http://www.debate.org...

http://www.debate.org...

To see if they are the same account?

Also can you remove votes from the following banned accounts:

http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...

Furthermore the following accounts are inactive accounts who made multiple accounts and vote bombed in the past and should be banned and have their votes removed:

http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...

Tuesday, January 25, 2011 @ 5:29:41 PM
Posted by:
JuliaD

We will take a look at these items and determine the best action for each. In general, we prefer to take as much of a hands off approach to moderation as possible, but this topic has been reported a sufficient number of times that we will look into the data and see what actions we can take.

Tuesday, January 25, 2011 @ 5:50:26 PM
askbob

kk sounds good

Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 3:59:43 PM
askbob

Julia there are not two multi-accounters that we have detected and have admitted to doing so:

http://www.debate.org...

http://www.debate.org...

Can you please remove these members and also their votes

Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 4:02:40 PM
askbob

Also the other multi-accounter's votes still remain
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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2/1/2011 8:03:49 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/31/2011 7:32:28 AM, askbob wrote:
http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...

Add this one to the list
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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2/1/2011 8:10:57 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/31/2011 7:29:33 AM, askbob wrote:
has a multi-account known as Clockwork_Assassin

Pretty sure this account v-bombed me a long time ago. Aww.
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2/1/2011 8:15:21 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/31/2011 4:30:56 PM, mongeese wrote:
I'm obsessed with theLwerd, and Julia's already sick of hearing about it just like everyone else on this site is. It's more than a little creepy the way I follow her around like a puppy and constantly instigate her for a response because I'm so pathetically desperate for her approval and attention. I can't help myself but to talk about her constantlyyYyyYy. I also have no life and no other way of justifying my loser existence aside from rectifying votes on this nerdy website. Because I have nothing better to do I just cry about it or make threads about it or talk about it or comment about it or e-mail mods about it and wtf can't I get ANYONE to care about this issue ANY LONGER?!?! NOT EVEN JULIA WHO GETS PAID FOR IT?Z?!?!!!!?!?!

Nope. Shut up.
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2/1/2011 8:17:12 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/31/2011 5:36:09 PM, mongeese wrote:
Even Lwerd's votes are still there, and it's the most obvious multi-account ever.

1. Multi-accounting is when you have more than one active account.
2. I did not have more than one account when 'Lwerd' was active.
.: Mongeese is stupid and/or a liar.
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2/1/2011 8:20:40 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/1/2011 8:17:12 PM, theLwerd wrote:
At 1/31/2011 5:36:09 PM, mongeese wrote:
Even Lwerd's votes are still there, and it's the most obvious multi-account ever.

1. Multi-accounting is when you have more than one active account.
Equivocation; we obviously have different definitions of "multi-account." Mine includes inactive accounts that still have active votes. Yours doesn't.
2. I did not have more than one account when 'Lwerd' was active.
I can't confirm or deny this, because I don't know if there was a window of inactivity or dual activity, but that's probably insignificant.
.: Mongeese is stupid and/or a liar.
.: theLwerd uses logical fallacies.
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2/1/2011 8:23:07 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/1/2011 8:15:21 PM, theLwerd wrote:
Ranty rant

It's interesting that you actually wrote an entire paragraph over something supposedly so trivial. If we had a word count comparing the number of words we've each contributed to this "feud" to use sac8's terminology (was it sac8), you'd probably have about three times as many.
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2/1/2011 8:28:26 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/1/2011 8:15:21 PM, theLwerd wrote:
At 1/31/2011 4:30:56 PM, mongeese wrote:
I'm obsessed with theLwerd, and Julia's already sick of hearing about it just like everyone else on this site is. It's more than a little creepy the way I follow her around like a puppy and constantly instigate her for a response because I'm so pathetically desperate for her approval and attention. I can't help myself but to talk about her constantlyyYyyYy. I also have no life and no other way of justifying my loser existence aside from rectifying votes on this nerdy website. Because I have nothing better to do I just cry about it or make threads about it or talk about it or comment about it or e-mail mods about it and wtf can't I get ANYONE to care about this issue ANY LONGER?!?! NOT EVEN JULIA WHO GETS PAID FOR IT?Z?!?!!!!?!?!

Nope. Shut up.

While his previous topic that he created was excessive, this was just a single comment that was actually relevant to the conversation. This is one of the (many) times that you're overreacting.
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
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2/1/2011 8:31:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/1/2011 8:27:39 PM, Atheism wrote:
Thread derailed!

Quite. I said a word that is apparently a cannot-be-said word. It's like saying Voldemort in the seventh book, when it was enchanted so that saying "Voldemort" resulted in a pack of Death Eaters on your trail, except the intimidation factor is kind of nonexistant, essentially replaced with irrelevant narm.
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2/1/2011 8:33:51 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/1/2011 8:10:57 PM, theLwerd wrote:
At 1/31/2011 7:29:33 AM, askbob wrote:
has a multi-account known as Clockwork_Assassin

Pretty sure this account v-bombed me a long time ago. Aww.

no you are thinking of http://www.debate.org...

clockwork assassin is new
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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2/1/2011 8:38:09 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/1/2011 8:33:51 PM, askbob wrote:
At 2/1/2011 8:10:57 PM, theLwerd wrote:
At 1/31/2011 7:29:33 AM, askbob wrote:
has a multi-account known as Clockwork_Assassin

Pretty sure this account v-bombed me a long time ago. Aww.

no you are thinking of http://www.debate.org...

clockwork assassin is new

Oh, the guy who voted in this debate?
http://www.debate.org...
Vote-bomber, clearly, but I don't know about multi-accounter.
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2/1/2011 8:47:24 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
DiablosChaosBroker and Labrat were also vote bombers.

Lol check out every single one of my debates.
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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2/1/2011 8:50:20 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Well, if we're talking about people who "were" vote-bombers, I've posted a thread about that before. This thread, I think, is for more recent ones, specifically ASB.