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wierdman
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7/21/2011 9:17:47 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
In this forum, you may present your solution to our current economic state.

IDEA ONE: deport illegal immigrants
IDEA TWO: reduce focus on health care
Greyparrot
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7/21/2011 9:19:15 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/21/2011 9:17:47 PM, wierdman wrote:
In this forum, you may present your solution to our current economic state.


IDEA ONE: deport illegal immigrants
IDEA TWO: reduce focus on health care

1) too costly
2) immortality is priceless
Wnope
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7/21/2011 9:43:19 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
1. Offer a decreased inheritance tax to anyone who commits suicide before reaching an age where they start collecting medicare.
2. Rip out the areas of the military that are antiquated and no longer appropriate for 21st century warefare (i.e. against rogue states and groups not nations with solid infrastructures)
3. Follow the leprechaun.
SuperRobotWars
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7/21/2011 11:15:18 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
1] Legalize weed and heroin with minor regulation and taxation
2] Allow private companies to produce alternative fuels
3] Use prison labor to produce government funds and therefore reduce taxes on small business
4] Make it slightly easier for banks to build their own currencies
5] Allow the private space industry to take flight
6] Allow for gold filtration from the ocean
7] Allow for easier access to nuclear facility building permits
8] Stop paying farmers not to farm
9] Allow the use of our sewage system to produce fertilizer and fuel
10] Force Greenpeace members to starve to death and go without electricity
11] Let all PETA members be mauled to death by zoo animals and rabid cats/dogs
12] Allow us to tie Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin to an stake to throw rotten tomatoes, watermelons, eggs, and pineapples at them
13] Deport all the An-Caps to Somalia
Minister Of Trolling
: At 12/6/2011 2:21:41 PM, badger wrote:
: ugly people should beat beautiful people ugly. simple! you'd be killing two birds with the one stone... women like violent men and you're making yourself more attractive, relatively. i met a blonde dude who was prettier than me not so long ago. he's not so pretty now! ha!
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: ...and well, he wasn't really prettier than me. he just had nice hair.
Ragnar_Rahl
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7/21/2011 11:22:00 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/21/2011 9:43:19 PM, Wnope wrote:
1. Offer a decreased inheritance tax to anyone who commits suicide before reaching an age where they start collecting medicare.
2. Rip out the areas of the military that are antiquated and no longer appropriate for 21st century warefare (i.e. against rogue states and groups not nations with solid infrastructures)
3. Follow the leprechaun.
...4. Get pwned by China when you have no deterrent against them.

1. Abolish the welfare state.
2. Let Europe try handling some of its own defense if it doesn't shut the **** up about 1.
3. Phase in user fees for all government services practicable.
4. Phase out taxes once debts are paid and user fees are at a level sufficient to maintain the government's job.
It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man.
Ragnar_Rahl
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7/21/2011 11:24:17 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/21/2011 11:15:18 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
3] Use prison labor to produce government funds
Prison labor is already used.
Prison labor will never be profitable, it costs more to imprison someone than the average person, let alone the average prisoner, can make.
It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man.
SuperRobotWars
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7/22/2011 12:25:12 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/21/2011 11:24:17 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 7/21/2011 11:15:18 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
3] Use prison labor to produce government funds
Prison labor is already used.
Prison labor will never be profitable, it costs more to imprison someone than the average person, let alone the average prisoner, can make.

Wha? Prison labor is currently not used in mass, prison labor gives convicts job skills they can use after their sentence is up, and if slave labor can be profitable so can prison labor.
Minister Of Trolling
: At 12/6/2011 2:21:41 PM, badger wrote:
: ugly people should beat beautiful people ugly. simple! you'd be killing two birds with the one stone... women like violent men and you're making yourself more attractive, relatively. i met a blonde dude who was prettier than me not so long ago. he's not so pretty now! ha!
:
: ...and well, he wasn't really prettier than me. he just had nice hair.
FREEDO
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7/22/2011 8:50:37 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Get rid of Capitalism.
If not then...

1. Bring ALL the troops home.
2. Raise taxes on the top 1% and lower taxes for bottom 90% by at least 50%.
3. Universalize healthcare.
4. Universalize college and pay off all student debts.
5. Guaranteed employment in public sector.
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fnord
SuperRobotWars
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7/23/2011 12:20:01 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/22/2011 8:50:37 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Get rid of Capitalism.
If not then...

1. Bring ALL the troops home.

I agree.

2. Raise taxes on the top 1% and lower taxes for bottom 90% by at least 50%.

o.0 WTF?

3. Universalize healthcare.

If the bare minimum [basic] with stipulations on requirements to register [make under a certain amount, at least attempt to work, other circumstances, etc] then yes, otherwise you better have robots.

4. Universalize college and pay off all student debts.

I believe that there should be some government run colleges, but allow for private colleges to exist as well.

5. Guaranteed employment in public sector.

This is iffy, if it just makes it so everyone at least has an chance of receiving basic employment by government then I can be fine, as long as it allows the private sector to also employ and doesn't try to out compete the private sector.
Minister Of Trolling
: At 12/6/2011 2:21:41 PM, badger wrote:
: ugly people should beat beautiful people ugly. simple! you'd be killing two birds with the one stone... women like violent men and you're making yourself more attractive, relatively. i met a blonde dude who was prettier than me not so long ago. he's not so pretty now! ha!
:
: ...and well, he wasn't really prettier than me. he just had nice hair.
FREEDO
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7/26/2011 4:25:04 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/23/2011 12:20:01 AM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
At 7/22/2011 8:50:37 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Get rid of Capitalism.
If not then...

1. Bring ALL the troops home.

I agree.

2. Raise taxes on the top 1% and lower taxes for bottom 90% by at least 50%.

o.0 WTF?

Hey, that's being conservative. It used to be even higher.
Ideally, I'd actually see the tax system being paid 1/3 by the top 1%, 1/3 by the next 9% and 1/3 by the bottom 90%. This is because each own 1/3 of all the wealth in the country.

3. Universalize healthcare.

If the bare minimum [basic] with stipulations on requirements to register [make under a certain amount, at least attempt to work, other circumstances, etc] then yes, otherwise you better have robots.

Not sure what you're saying here.

4. Universalize college and pay off all student debts.

I believe that there should be some government run colleges, but allow for private colleges to exist as well.

meh.

5. Guaranteed employment in public sector.

This is iffy, if it just makes it so everyone at least has an chance of receiving basic employment by government then I can be fine, as long as it allows the private sector to also employ and doesn't try to out compete the private sector.

Well, if it didn't then it would be Socialism, which is actually what I would prefer, so long as it's democratic.
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SuperRobotWars
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7/26/2011 4:34:30 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/26/2011 4:25:04 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 7/23/2011 12:20:01 AM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
At 7/22/2011 8:50:37 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Get rid of Capitalism.
If not then...

1. Bring ALL the troops home.

I agree.

2. Raise taxes on the top 1% and lower taxes for bottom 90% by at least 50%.

o.0 WTF?

Hey, that's being conservative. It used to be even higher.
Ideally, I'd actually see the tax system being paid 1/3 by the top 1%, 1/3 by the next 9% and 1/3 by the bottom 90%. This is because each own 1/3 of all the wealth in the country.

I'm sorry I read wrong.


3. Universalize healthcare.

If the bare minimum [basic] with stipulations on requirements to register [make under a certain amount, at least attempt to work, other circumstances, etc] then yes, otherwise you better have robots.

Not sure what you're saying here.

4. Universalize college and pay off all student debts.

I believe that there should be some government run colleges, but allow for private colleges to exist as well.

meh.

5. Guaranteed employment in public sector.

This is iffy, if it just makes it so everyone at least has an chance of receiving basic employment by government then I can be fine, as long as it allows the private sector to also employ and doesn't try to out compete the private sector.

Well, if it didn't then it would be Socialism, which is actually what I would prefer, so long as it's democratic.
Minister Of Trolling
: At 12/6/2011 2:21:41 PM, badger wrote:
: ugly people should beat beautiful people ugly. simple! you'd be killing two birds with the one stone... women like violent men and you're making yourself more attractive, relatively. i met a blonde dude who was prettier than me not so long ago. he's not so pretty now! ha!
:
: ...and well, he wasn't really prettier than me. he just had nice hair.
SuperRobotWars
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7/26/2011 4:35:01 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Minister Of Trolling
: At 12/6/2011 2:21:41 PM, badger wrote:
: ugly people should beat beautiful people ugly. simple! you'd be killing two birds with the one stone... women like violent men and you're making yourself more attractive, relatively. i met a blonde dude who was prettier than me not so long ago. he's not so pretty now! ha!
:
: ...and well, he wasn't really prettier than me. he just had nice hair.
Ore_Ele
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7/26/2011 4:49:29 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
1) Completely redo tax structure
1.a) Income tax, progressive from 5% to 60% (top teir is over $5 million, not $250k). Actual percentages and tier level subject to change (this pretty much goes with everything).
1.b) Capital gains count towards income tax.
1.c) Corporate tax, progressive from 5% to 25%. Any bonuses, gifts, dividends, anything to CEOs, Management, Board members, anyone gets tacked onto their personal income (so if a company wants to pay big bucks to the CEO, we tax it like crap, if they want to pay that money to their share holders, we tax it like crap, they want to invest that money into the company, we tax it less).
1.d) Property tax, value determined on land value only (how much would the land be if the property on it was removed? This way, people are not punished with higher taxes just because they make their house look nicer, and are not rewarded with lower taxes just because they make it look like junk and lower the value of it). Rates still determined locally.
1.e) Sales tax, nationally at 2%, only on final goods. Not on "necessities" (food, housing, transportation, etc).
1.f) Estate tax (death tax), progressive from 0% (everything under $250k) to upwards of 75% (over $20 million), only applies to liquid assets and assets liquidated within 5 years (meaning that if a business owner passes on his business to his child, it is not liquid, so it is not taxed. But if his son decides to sell the business to pocket the money, i.e. liquidates the business, it is then taxed).

2) Go through every program and see how the same results can be reached at a smaller budget (through the use of technology or more efficient measure, or reducing redundencies, ensuring that nothing is repetitive, and double checking that people are re-doing the same things over and over again).

3) Nationalize the tobacco industry and cut its marketing budget (but continue to produce and sell at reasonable prices, you have to cut off the demand for cigarettes, not the supply).

4) Vast cuts to the military and how the military functions (less boots, more roboots, bad pun, doesn't work, sorry). Base around strategic, pin point attacks that are quick in-and-out hits, rather than massive army invasions.

If I think of more, I'll add them on.
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