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innomen
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10/20/2011 8:29:55 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I'd have it upside down to where it is now. I'd have local, then state, then fed get my money in that order and in those diminishing amounts.

I'd first and foremost get rid of the IRS. No average person should need to pay for some accountant to do their taxes in order to get all deductions that are due them.

After that there would be some details to work out, but those are the big structural changes i would implement.
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10/20/2011 8:53:11 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Control over America's tax code is control over everything else. Use it to take hostage of the government-- no money unless it lets you decide a few other things too.
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10/20/2011 12:56:16 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/20/2011 7:11:23 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
No taxes, but a steady 15% inflation rate. Instead of 3%.

Printing money is cheaper than paying for the IRS.

Zimbabwe method ftw. Nothing bad can happen from too much inflation :p.
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10/20/2011 1:02:00 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/20/2011 12:56:16 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 10/20/2011 7:11:23 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
No taxes, but a steady 15% inflation rate. Instead of 3%.

Printing money is cheaper than paying for the IRS.

Zimbabwe method ftw. Nothing bad can happen from too much inflation :p.

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10/20/2011 8:52:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Total tax numbers - Local receives 80%, federal receives 20%.

Also, each citizen would be able to choose how his/her money is used by filling out a new tax sheet which categorizes options.

- Income tax rates -

$1000-$50,000 annual income = 10%

$50,001-$100,000 = 15%

$100,001-$250,000 = 20%

$250,001-$1,000,000 = 25%

$1,000,001-$5,000,000 = 30%

$5,000,001-$20,000,000 = 35%

$20,000,000-above = 40%
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10/21/2011 3:54:58 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Taxes even now are completely voluntary.

Seriously, who the fvck pays taxes?
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10/21/2011 1:00:00 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
For individuals and families (per year):

under $30K = No federal income taxes

$30K-$70K = 25%

$70K -$150K = 35%

$150K -$500K = 35%

$500K-$1Million = 35%

$1Million -$20Million = 40%

$20Million -above = 45%

For corporations and private corporations(per year):

making under $500Million = 35%

500Million - 2 Billion = 37.5%

2-15 Billion = 40%

15- 25 Billion = 45%

25 Billion + = 50%
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10/21/2011 6:02:08 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
In my ideal state of affairs, taxation would be completely unnecessary. But if I can only change the tax code, I would make it radically more progressive. 0% for those making less than $500,000 a year. 90% for those making more than $1,000,000.
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10/21/2011 6:11:09 PM
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No deductions, no income tax. 1% every time money changes hands. IE: I get paid on Friday my employer takes 1% for govt. I go to the bank The bank cashes my check and takes 1% for govt. I go buy stuff, All the stores take 1% on everything I buy. At the end of the year add up how much I made and take another 1%. Simple as pie extreme revenue generator. Eliminates policy wank liberals from using the tax code to try and regulate and punish personal behavior it deems unhealthy or politically incorrect. That's the best part.
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10/21/2011 6:22:15 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/21/2011 6:02:08 PM, FREEDO wrote:
In my ideal state of affairs, taxation would be completely unnecessary. But if I can only change the tax code, I would make it radically more progressive. 0% for those making less than $500,000 a year. 90% for those making more than $1,000,000.:

So, basically you'd seek to heavily penalize successful people and reward less successful people for their unsuccess. Sounds bitchin'!!!
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10/21/2011 6:47:13 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/21/2011 6:22:15 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 10/21/2011 6:02:08 PM, FREEDO wrote:
In my ideal state of affairs, taxation would be completely unnecessary. But if I can only change the tax code, I would make it radically more progressive. 0% for those making less than $500,000 a year. 90% for those making more than $1,000,000.:

So, basically you'd seek to heavily penalize successful people and reward less successful people for their unsuccess. Sounds bitchin'!!!

Yeah, that's it.
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10/21/2011 8:31:53 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At the end of the year add up how much I made and take another 1%.
That sounds like an income tax.
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10/21/2011 9:59:06 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/20/2011 3:34:54 AM, FREEDO wrote:
If you had control over America's tax code and ONLY that, how would you shape it?

Id keep the progressive tax model, make it higher for the top 10%, and eliminate loopholes........... as a start
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10/22/2011 12:45:53 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/21/2011 9:59:06 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/20/2011 3:34:54 AM, FREEDO wrote:
If you had control over America's tax code and ONLY that, how would you shape it?

Id keep the progressive tax model, make it higher for the top 10%, and eliminate loopholes........... as a start

Not a bad first post. Welcome to the forums.
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10/22/2011 8:36:25 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/21/2011 6:02:08 PM, FREEDO wrote:
In my ideal state of affairs, taxation would be completely unnecessary. But if I can only change the tax code, I would make it radically more progressive. 0% for those making less than $500,000 a year. 90% for those making more than $1,000,000.

No one would make over a million dollars if they could work half as hard and make 5x the money.
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10/22/2011 8:37:45 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/20/2011 3:34:54 AM, FREEDO wrote:
If you had control over America's tax code and ONLY that, how would you shape it?

I would probably just make an x% flat tax on consumption-though I would possibly consider no tax on food.
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10/22/2011 12:20:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Income Taxes:

For individuals and families (per year):
under $30K = No federal income taxes
$30K-$70K = 25%
$70K -$150K = 35%
$150K -$500K = 35%
$500K-$1Million = 35%
$1Million -$20Million = 40%
$20Million -above = 45%

For corporations and private corporations(per year):
making under $500Million = 35%
500Million - 2 Billion = 37.5%
2-15 Billion = 40%
15- 25 Billion = 45%
25 Billion + = 50%

Failure to pay on time or accurately would result in a penalty of 5% to 10%

National Sales Tax:
For everyone it would be 5%

Payroll Tax:
It would be 8% of all money made, no exemptions.

Gas Taxes:
National 7 cent per gallon tax for gas
National 5 cent per gallon tax for diesel

Unemployment Tax/Disability Insurance:
National 2% tax on wages

Tobacco/Alcohol Tax:
I would bring it back down to 39 cents per pack, and $3.5 per carton of cigarettes
Other tobacco products would be a universal 15 cents per item
For bear, it would be 30 cent per gallon tax
For wine, it would be a 50 cent per bottle tax
For Spirits, it would be a $3 per gallon tax
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10/23/2011 4:18:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/21/2011 8:31:53 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At the end of the year add up how much I made and take another 1%.
That sounds like an income tax.

Ya your right it is. But hey 1%
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10/23/2011 8:52:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/22/2011 12:20:10 PM, visini wrote:
Income Taxes:

For individuals and families (per year):
under $30K = No federal income taxes
$30K-$70K = 25%
$70K -$150K = 35%
$150K -$500K = 35%
$500K-$1Million = 35%
$1Million -$20Million = 40%
$20Million -above = 45%

For corporations and private corporations(per year):
making under $500Million = 35%
500Million - 2 Billion = 37.5%
2-15 Billion = 40%
15- 25 Billion = 45%
25 Billion + = 50%

Failure to pay on time or accurately would result in a penalty of 5% to 10%

National Sales Tax:
For everyone it would be 5%

Payroll Tax:
It would be 8% of all money made, no exemptions.

Gas Taxes:
National 7 cent per gallon tax for gas
National 5 cent per gallon tax for diesel

Unemployment Tax/Disability Insurance:
National 2% tax on wages

Tobacco/Alcohol Tax:
I would bring it back down to 39 cents per pack, and $3.5 per carton of cigarettes
Other tobacco products would be a universal 15 cents per item
For bear, it would be 30 cent per gallon tax
For wine, it would be a 50 cent per bottle tax
For Spirits, it would be a $3 per gallon tax

Yay! More liberals hiking up taxes cause their hooker prices are increasing.

Less government spending, cut all the useless departments, fiscal responsibility, and a low tax rate is how you make a government succeed. Also, don't go into a $1.3 trillion war without extracting any resources from the native country.
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10/23/2011 9:50:40 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Yay! More liberals hiking up taxes cause their hooker prices are increasing.

Less government spending, cut all the useless departments, fiscal responsibility, and a low tax rate is how you make a government succeed. Also, don't go into a $1.3 trillion war without extracting any resources from the native country.

You must not know much. The only taxes that I actually proposed to raise is Income tax, the other taxes I lowered. Funny that you didn't take the time to do any research before you tried to attack me or it.

That was only my tax plan, because that is what this discussion is over. If you want me to get into government spending okay, I would cut/end:

150 Million in Guantanamo
42 Billion in pot enforcement laws
193 billion in criminal justice system against pot
10.7 billion in criminal justice system expenses pot
300 Billion on Bush tax cuts
4 Billion in oil subsidies
20 Billion in Farm subsidies
43 Billion in Afghanistan
20 Billion in Iraq
4,611,000 (5%) cut from Senate and House income (530 people)
46,320 (6%) cut form Speaker of the House, and Maj. Min. Leaders income (4 people)
40,000 (10%) cut from president income
27,000 (5%) cut former presidents income

That is over 650 Billion dollars out of the budget. That is just off the top of my mind.
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10/23/2011 10:04:40 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/23/2011 9:50:40 PM, visini wrote:

You must not know much. The only taxes that I actually proposed to raise is Income tax, the other taxes I lowered. Funny that you didn't take the time to do any research before you tried to attack me or it.

That was only my tax plan, because that is what this discussion is over. If you want me to get into government spending okay, I would cut/end:

150 Million in Guantanamo
42 Billion in pot enforcement laws
193 billion in criminal justice system against pot
10.7 billion in criminal justice system expenses pot
: 300 Billion on Bush tax cuts
4 Billion in oil subsidies
20 Billion in Farm subsidies
43 Billion in Afghanistan
20 Billion in Iraq
4,611,000 (5%) cut from Senate and House income (530 people)
46,320 (6%) cut form Speaker of the House, and Maj. Min. Leaders income (4 people)
40,000 (10%) cut from president income
27,000 (5%) cut former presidents income

That is over 650 Billion dollars out of the budget. That is just off the top of my mind.

Your going to cut taxes by raising taxes? :p
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10/23/2011 10:20:47 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I'm also going to call complete BS on your number for tax expenses paid on enforcing/incarceration for pot.

Also, note that closing Guantanamo Bay isn't going to cut expenses, but you still have to put the prisoners somewhere. You just don't close it down and all the terrorists are free.
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10/23/2011 10:27:35 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/23/2011 9:50:40 PM, visini wrote:
Yay! More liberals hiking up taxes cause their hooker prices are increasing.

Less government spending, cut all the useless departments, fiscal responsibility, and a low tax rate is how you make a government succeed. Also, don't go into a $1.3 trillion war without extracting any resources from the native country.

You must not know much. The only taxes that I actually proposed to raise is Income tax, the other taxes I lowered. Funny that you didn't take the time to do any research before you tried to attack me or it.

That was only my tax plan, because that is what this discussion is over. If you want me to get into government spending okay, I would cut/end:

150 Million in Guantanamo
42 Billion in pot enforcement laws
193 billion in criminal justice system against pot
10.7 billion in criminal justice system expenses pot
300 Billion on Bush tax cuts
4 Billion in oil subsidies
20 Billion in Farm subsidies
43 Billion in Afghanistan
20 Billion in Iraq
4,611,000 (5%) cut from Senate and House income (530 people)
46,320 (6%) cut form Speaker of the House, and Maj. Min. Leaders income (4 people)
40,000 (10%) cut from president income
27,000 (5%) cut former presidents income

That is over 650 Billion dollars out of the budget. That is just off the top of my mind.

I have high doubts that the government spends 250+billion on pot enforcement
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10/23/2011 10:36:46 PM
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Herman Cain 999, if possible I also would pursue Reaganomics.
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10/23/2011 10:38:00 PM
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At 10/23/2011 10:36:46 PM, 16kadams wrote:
Herman Cain 999, if possible I also would pursue Reaganomics.

999 for the win.
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