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Koopin
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4/4/2012 3:31:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
My mother is a single black 45 year old woman. Extremely smart, well spoken, ect...
She has been looking for a job for five years now. She does not believe in welfare, and stays off it. It makes me so mad that you are either over qualified, or under. Everyone who turned her down said go to college. Now that she finished, everyone says she is too qualified. I am really fed up with this.

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4/4/2012 3:32:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 3:31:37 PM, Koopin wrote:
My mother is a single black 45 year old woman. Extremely smart, well spoken, ect...
She has been looking for a job for five years now. She does not believe in welfare, and stays off it. It makes me so mad that you are either over qualified, or under. Everyone who turned her down said go to college. Now that she finished, everyone says she is too qualified. I am really fed up with this.


/End Rant.

How can someone be too qualified for a job?
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4/4/2012 3:34:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 3:32:18 PM, royalpaladin wrote:


How can someone be too qualified for a job?

They are scared she'll want to leave them for a better job. IDK, it's dumb.
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4/4/2012 3:35:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 3:34:42 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:32:18 PM, royalpaladin wrote:


How can someone be too qualified for a job?

They are scared she'll want to leave them for a better job. IDK, it's dumb.

Yeah, that sounds nonsensical. This is obviously a flaw in Capitalism.
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4/4/2012 3:57:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 3:56:13 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:35:54 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
This is obviously a flaw in Capitalism.
More like people's decision-making abilities.

More like Capitalism. They are afraid that she will be selfish and obtain a better-paying job in the future. Ergo, they are afraid of competition for her labor.
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4/4/2012 4:05:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 3:57:24 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:56:13 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:35:54 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
This is obviously a flaw in Capitalism.
More like people's decision-making abilities.

More like Capitalism. They are afraid that she will be selfish and obtain a better-paying job in the future. Ergo, they are afraid of competition for her labor.

Yes, because people cannot switch jobs in a communistic society.
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4/4/2012 4:06:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 4:05:03 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:57:24 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:56:13 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:35:54 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
This is obviously a flaw in Capitalism.
More like people's decision-making abilities.

More like Capitalism. They are afraid that she will be selfish and obtain a better-paying job in the future. Ergo, they are afraid of competition for her labor.

Yes, because people cannot switch jobs in a communistic society.

Communism by definition would give people the same output in spite of the job. Ergo, nobody would switch jobs for purposes of obtaining more wealth.
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4/4/2012 5:30:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 4:06:14 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 4:05:03 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:57:24 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:56:13 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:35:54 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
This is obviously a flaw in Capitalism.
More like people's decision-making abilities.

More like Capitalism. They are afraid that she will be selfish and obtain a better-paying job in the future. Ergo, they are afraid of competition for her labor.

Yes, because people cannot switch jobs in a communistic society.

Communism by definition would give people the same output in spite of the job. Ergo, nobody would switch jobs for purposes of obtaining more wealth.

And rocket scientists would be be flipping burgers, they're all getting paid the same, why give it your all?
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4/4/2012 5:34:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 5:30:27 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/4/2012 4:06:14 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Communism by definition would give people the same output in spite of the job. Ergo, nobody would switch jobs for purposes of obtaining more wealth.

And rocket scientists would be be flipping burgers, they're all getting paid the same, why give it your all?

I take that back, there wouldn't be any rocket scientists, I wouldn't be doing this sh!t if didn't pay well.
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4/4/2012 5:37:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
But to Koopins point, people not getting jobs because they are over qualified happens a lot, moving isn't an option I take it?
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4/4/2012 6:23:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 5:34:38 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/4/2012 5:30:27 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/4/2012 4:06:14 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Communism by definition would give people the same output in spite of the job. Ergo, nobody would switch jobs for purposes of obtaining more wealth.

And rocket scientists would be be flipping burgers, they're all getting paid the same, why give it your all?

I take that back, there wouldn't be any rocket scientists, I wouldn't be doing this sh!t if didn't pay well.

I would, but I'd keep the fu*kin rockets and become a space pirate.
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4/4/2012 6:27:21 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 5:34:38 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/4/2012 5:30:27 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/4/2012 4:06:14 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Communism by definition would give people the same output in spite of the job. Ergo, nobody would switch jobs for purposes of obtaining more wealth.

And rocket scientists would be be flipping burgers, they're all getting paid the same, why give it your all?

I take that back, there wouldn't be any rocket scientists, I wouldn't be doing this sh!t if didn't pay well.

Reminds me of one of my favorite Thomas Sowell lecture:
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4/4/2012 8:01:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 3:35:54 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:34:42 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:32:18 PM, royalpaladin wrote:


How can someone be too qualified for a job?

They are scared she'll want to leave them for a better job. IDK, it's dumb.

Yeah, that sounds nonsensical. This is obviously a flaw in Capitalism.

So being able to succeed or fail is bad? Communism is fail. only. It everyone makes the same what happens is the government has little to tax. DANT made a forum about this, showing if we all had the same income we would be all in current standards of poverty. This means the government has nothing to tax, and will be spent to its knees. Also if you dont profit from your work, there is no reason to work.
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4/4/2012 8:22:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 8:01:11 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:35:54 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:34:42 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:32:18 PM, royalpaladin wrote:


How can someone be too qualified for a job?

They are scared she'll want to leave them for a better job. IDK, it's dumb.

Yeah, that sounds nonsensical. This is obviously a flaw in Capitalism.

So being able to succeed or fail is bad? Communism is fail. only. It everyone makes the same what happens is the government has little to tax. DANT made a forum about this, showing if we all had the same income we would be all in current standards of poverty. This means the government has nothing to tax, and will be spent to its knees. Also if you dont profit from your work, there is no reason to work.

Money would not exist in a Communist society. The government would not exist in a Communist society except insofar as people would democratically band together to make collective guidelines for living. Communism is voluntary collectivism, and nothing more.
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4/4/2012 8:24:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 8:22:10 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 8:01:11 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:35:54 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:34:42 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:32:18 PM, royalpaladin wrote:


How can someone be too qualified for a job?

They are scared she'll want to leave them for a better job. IDK, it's dumb.

Yeah, that sounds nonsensical. This is obviously a flaw in Capitalism.

So being able to succeed or fail is bad? Communism is fail. only. It everyone makes the same what happens is the government has little to tax. DANT made a forum about this, showing if we all had the same income we would be all in current standards of poverty. This means the government has nothing to tax, and will be spent to its knees. Also if you dont profit from your work, there is no reason to work.

Money would not exist in a Communist society. The government would not exist in a Communist society except insofar as people would democratically band together to make collective guidelines for living. Communism is voluntary collectivism, and nothing more.

So, did the Soviet Union, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam, and Venezuela all have Communist dictatorships?
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4/4/2012 8:26:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 8:24:57 PM, Contra wrote:
At 4/4/2012 8:22:10 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 8:01:11 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:35:54 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:34:42 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:32:18 PM, royalpaladin wrote:


How can someone be too qualified for a job?

They are scared she'll want to leave them for a better job. IDK, it's dumb.

Yeah, that sounds nonsensical. This is obviously a flaw in Capitalism.

So being able to succeed or fail is bad? Communism is fail. only. It everyone makes the same what happens is the government has little to tax. DANT made a forum about this, showing if we all had the same income we would be all in current standards of poverty. This means the government has nothing to tax, and will be spent to its knees. Also if you dont profit from your work, there is no reason to work.

Money would not exist in a Communist society. The government would not exist in a Communist society except insofar as people would democratically band together to make collective guidelines for living. Communism is voluntary collectivism, and nothing more.

So, did the Soviet Union, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam, and Venezuela all have Communist dictatorships?

No.

Dictatorships are not possible under Communism. By definition, Communism is a political system in which the "state withers away" and everyone is politically and economically equal. I am sure that I do not have to demonstrate that dictatorships promote political inequality.
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4/4/2012 8:28:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Marx believed that capitalism contained the seeds of its own destruction. He described how the wealth of the bourgeoisie depended on the work of the proletariat. Therefore, capitalism requires an underclass. But Marx predicted that the continued exploitation of this underclass would create great resentment. Eventually the proletariat would lead a revolution against the bourgeoisie. The final struggle would lead to the overthrow of capitalism and its supporters. Marx wrote that modern bourgeois society 'is like the sorcerer, who is no longer able to control the powers of the nether world whom he has called up by his spells.'

Following the proletariats' defeat of capitalism, a new classless society would emerge based on the idea: 'from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs'. In such a society, land, industry, labour and wealth would be shared between all people. All people would have the right to an education, and class structures would disappear. Harmony would reign, and the state would simply 'wither away'.


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4/4/2012 8:44:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 8:22:10 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 8:01:11 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:35:54 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:34:42 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:32:18 PM, royalpaladin wrote:


How can someone be too qualified for a job?

They are scared she'll want to leave them for a better job. IDK, it's dumb.

Yeah, that sounds nonsensical. This is obviously a flaw in Capitalism.

So being able to succeed or fail is bad? Communism is fail. only. It everyone makes the same what happens is the government has little to tax. DANT made a forum about this, showing if we all had the same income we would be all in current standards of poverty. This means the government has nothing to tax, and will be spent to its knees. Also if you dont profit from your work, there is no reason to work.

Money would not exist in a Communist society. The government would not exist in a Communist society except insofar as people would democratically band together to make collective guidelines for living. Communism is voluntary collectivism, and nothing more.

And what If I voluntarily decided that I didn't want to take part in your communist society and wanted to own my own means of production, pay my workers any way I want, and even fire them, create/use a currency, and make a profit?
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4/4/2012 8:51:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 8:44:15 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 4/4/2012 8:22:10 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 8:01:11 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:35:54 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:34:42 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:32:18 PM, royalpaladin wrote:


How can someone be too qualified for a job?

They are scared she'll want to leave them for a better job. IDK, it's dumb.

Yeah, that sounds nonsensical. This is obviously a flaw in Capitalism.

So being able to succeed or fail is bad? Communism is fail. only. It everyone makes the same what happens is the government has little to tax. DANT made a forum about this, showing if we all had the same income we would be all in current standards of poverty. This means the government has nothing to tax, and will be spent to its knees. Also if you dont profit from your work, there is no reason to work.

Money would not exist in a Communist society. The government would not exist in a Communist society except insofar as people would democratically band together to make collective guidelines for living. Communism is voluntary collectivism, and nothing more.

And what If I voluntarily decided that I didn't want to take part in your communist society and wanted to own my own means of production, pay my workers any way I want, and even fire them, create/use a currency, and make a profit?

You are free to do so, but you may not join the community and/or draw resources from the community.
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4/4/2012 8:59:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 8:51:42 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 8:44:15 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 4/4/2012 8:22:10 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 8:01:11 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:35:54 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:34:42 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:32:18 PM, royalpaladin wrote:


How can someone be too qualified for a job?

They are scared she'll want to leave them for a better job. IDK, it's dumb.

Yeah, that sounds nonsensical. This is obviously a flaw in Capitalism.

So being able to succeed or fail is bad? Communism is fail. only. It everyone makes the same what happens is the government has little to tax. DANT made a forum about this, showing if we all had the same income we would be all in current standards of poverty. This means the government has nothing to tax, and will be spent to its knees. Also if you dont profit from your work, there is no reason to work.

Money would not exist in a Communist society. The government would not exist in a Communist society except insofar as people would democratically band together to make collective guidelines for living. Communism is voluntary collectivism, and nothing more.

And what If I voluntarily decided that I didn't want to take part in your communist society and wanted to own my own means of production, pay my workers any way I want, and even fire them, create/use a currency, and make a profit?

You are free to do so, but you may not join the community and/or draw resources from the community.

Fair enough, as long as the system is voluntarily I have no problem with the system.
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4/4/2012 10:17:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 8:51:42 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 8:44:15 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 4/4/2012 8:22:10 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 8:01:11 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:35:54 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:34:42 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:32:18 PM, royalpaladin wrote:


How can someone be too qualified for a job?

They are scared she'll want to leave them for a better job. IDK, it's dumb.

Yeah, that sounds nonsensical. This is obviously a flaw in Capitalism.

So being able to succeed or fail is bad? Communism is fail. only. It everyone makes the same what happens is the government has little to tax. DANT made a forum about this, showing if we all had the same income we would be all in current standards of poverty. This means the government has nothing to tax, and will be spent to its knees. Also if you dont profit from your work, there is no reason to work.

Money would not exist in a Communist society. The government would not exist in a Communist society except insofar as people would democratically band together to make collective guidelines for living. Communism is voluntary collectivism, and nothing more.

And what If I voluntarily decided that I didn't want to take part in your communist society and wanted to own my own means of production, pay my workers any way I want, and even fire them, create/use a currency, and make a profit?

You are free to do so, but you may not join the community and/or draw resources from the community.

since when was that communism?!?!
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4/4/2012 10:31:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 10:17:29 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 4/4/2012 8:51:42 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 8:44:15 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 4/4/2012 8:22:10 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 8:01:11 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:35:54 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:34:42 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:32:18 PM, royalpaladin wrote:


How can someone be too qualified for a job?

They are scared she'll want to leave them for a better job. IDK, it's dumb.

Yeah, that sounds nonsensical. This is obviously a flaw in Capitalism.

So being able to succeed or fail is bad? Communism is fail. only. It everyone makes the same what happens is the government has little to tax. DANT made a forum about this, showing if we all had the same income we would be all in current standards of poverty. This means the government has nothing to tax, and will be spent to its knees. Also if you dont profit from your work, there is no reason to work.

Money would not exist in a Communist society. The government would not exist in a Communist society except insofar as people would democratically band together to make collective guidelines for living. Communism is voluntary collectivism, and nothing more.

And what If I voluntarily decided that I didn't want to take part in your communist society and wanted to own my own means of production, pay my workers any way I want, and even fire them, create/use a currency, and make a profit?

You are free to do so, but you may not join the community and/or draw resources from the community.

since when was that communism?!?!

Since Marx wrote the Manifesto. I have been telling you every single day that you have been misinterpreting Communism.
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4/4/2012 10:36:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 3:34:42 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 4/4/2012 3:32:18 PM, royalpaladin wrote:


How can someone be too qualified for a job?

They are scared she'll want to leave them for a better job. IDK, it's dumb.

It's this exactly. Companies don't want to invest time and money training someone that they fear will just leave the company as the economy improves.
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4/4/2012 10:41:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
The major problem with Communism is it never gets past the "dictatorship of the Proletariat" stage (so to speak). One man basically appoints themselves dictator and Communism calls them to give up their power which almost never happens, "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

Communism is a stateless society. But, never in history has it been successful.
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4/4/2012 10:44:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
If you believe republicans, her unemployment is her own fault. She is obviously lazy and hasn't been looking hard enough for a job...
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4/4/2012 10:52:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/4/2012 3:31:37 PM, Koopin wrote:
My mother is a single black 45 year old woman. Extremely smart, well spoken, ect...
She has been looking for a job for five years now. She does not believe in welfare, and stays off it. It makes me so mad that you are either over qualified, or under. Everyone who turned her down said go to college. Now that she finished, everyone says she is too qualified. I am really fed up with this.


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