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I've created a "new" system, "technostism"

Yuli_Ban
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9/18/2015 9:06:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
And it stinks on ice. So the gist is this" jobs are being automated, but automation has always created new jobs. This is due to the fundamental nature of automation being a physical process. This won't last forever: at some point in the near future, we will begin automating mental processes. We usually call this "artificial intelligence" and "synthetic intelligence." At which point, humans workers are no longer necessary. Actually, in this case 'workers' refers to everyone from janitors to the CEOs. With no way nor reason for humans to participate in the workforce, the economy effectively shuts down since the consumer class has no way to earn money. No way for a worker to earn money means no way for a boss to earn profits.

Now I've considered a "universal basic income" before coming up with technostism, but I eventually found it to be rather... flawed, to say the least. There had to be a better way, one that wouldn't potentially leave us with a Brave New World-esque situation of an owner overclass and a dependent underclass. Found one! Why not have everyone be of the owner overclass? We profit off of droid labor directly, no middle man.

I googled 'technostism' just earlier today, and found this perfect phrase to define it: "Free the Workers, Enslave the Robots!" (Only if said robots are sub-sapient).

How to go about this? Well there are many ways. I'm of a more libertarian constitution (no pun intended), so I find the free market as being a good way. Imagine this" a system, a network if you will, of worker-owned and run co-operatives and enterprises.

"Dude... that friggin' name"

Yah, I know. It sucks. Deal.

The hub for discussing technostism is here

https://www.reddit.com...

and it features even more of me rambling. There's also a wiki.
http://technostism.wikia.com...

So why do I say "new"? Because it's basically an ultra-high tech revival of syndicalism. Also, Karl Marx talked about this exact same thing 200 years ago, so it's sort of a "getting back to roots" thing. Return to the original communist idea (i.e. people are freed from labor by droids), before all the BS of Leninism and Stalinism and Trotskyism and Maoism and shaggism and baggism, and continue on from there. One goal: fully automated workplaces.

That's vanilla technostism: fully automated workplaces and/or wanting fully automated workplaces. The various strains of this crippling diseased stupid-arse idea, as well as how to get to such a world, are what I'm trying to work out.
Wylted
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9/19/2015 6:49:06 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
What are you talking about? Maybe the transhumanist party is right for you, but I don't know because I have nonideal what you're talking about. Maybe you're talking about something similar to the Venus project, if so that is for you. Don't ever start your own movement. Do what Hitler did and take over an already existing one.
Yuli_Ban
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9/19/2015 2:11:48 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 9/19/2015 6:49:06 AM, Wylted wrote:
What are you talking about? Maybe the transhumanist party is right for you, but I don't know because I have nonideal what you're talking about. Maybe you're talking about something similar to the Venus project, if so that is for you.

I'm talking about technostism. I suppose it's similar, if not identical, to the Venus Project or the Zeitgeist Movement, but I'm trying to fit into existing economics.
Yuli_Ban
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9/19/2015 4:03:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I think this will clear it up a bit.

"Free the workers, enslave the robots! I don't want to spend the rest of my life forced to chase the dollar just to survive, so let a droid do that for me and I can be allowed to do what I will. It shouldn't matter if that means write 1,000,000 novels or laze around with an Oculus Rift and on a water bed. Let's create a Digital Athens."

To expand on that, Erik Brynjolfsson calls this the 'Digital Athens' scenario.

"The Athenian citizens had lives of leisure; they got to participate in democracy and create art. That was largely because they had slaves to do the work. Okay, I don"t want human slaves, but in a very, very automated and digitally productive economy you don"t need to work as much, as hard, with as many people, to get the fruits of the economy. So the optimistic version is that we finally have more hours in our week freed up from toil and drudgery."

Technostists want to find a way to profit from automation in an egalitarian manner. The prevailing thought right now is through the use of worker-run businesses and co-operatives (the libertarian option), and another thought is the creation of a wealth tax on the produce of automata, so that a UBI can be funded directly from the result of droid labor (the statist option).