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The EITC Alternative

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11/3/2015 8:17:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Introduction:

The EITC (Earned Income Tax Credit) has been oft appraised as a more appropriate solution to mitigating poverty than raising the minimum wage. According to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, the EITC is "a federal tax credit for low and moderate income working people." [1] Essentially, this program provides a monetary reward for working families whose wages are too low to effectively support themselves. As of now, over half of the US (26 states, plus DC) have implemented the EITC in their own form. As a simple definition of how it operates, the Internal Revenue simplifies, "[the] EITC reduces the amount of tax you owe and may give you a refund." [2] In practice, this would be a definite benefit to low to moderate income workers who are having considerable difficulty supporting themselves and their family.

Benefits:

In the recent past (2013), the EITC has been demonstrably successful.
<img src="http://www.cbpp.org/sites/default/files/styles/report_371px/public/atoms/files/8-20-15tax.png?itok=CJatJtDO" alt="Earned Income Tax Credit and Child Tax Credit Have Powerful Antipoverty Impact"/> [http://www.cbpp.org...]

In 2012 alone, the program is accredited to keeping 6.5 million (3.3 million children) out of poverty. [3] To date, it is the *most* successful tax program in preventing poverty (for children), and is only trumped by Social Security (which is actually different, as it doesn't require that the recipients work, and has a juxtaposed application). For its specific target, it has been widely popular and largely successful. Empirical research on the topic suggests there is "sizable and robust increases in employment." [3] [4]

Common appraisals for the EITC stem from the view that it will fiscally stimulate the state and incentivize working to people previously relying singularly on welfare (causing them to [7], or individuals with no inherent previous desire to climb the corporate ladder. The majority of candidates (GOP and Democrats alike) for the 2016 presidential election support an increase of either the EITC or similar programs. [5] In it is no hard task to recognize the current US tax code is in desperate need of substantial change.

Encouraging Work
There is overwhelming consensus the EITC program would incentivize work and encourage individuals to seek employment. [6] First of all, it gives reward for work, thus making work more appealing to individuals. Not only does it appeal to people relying on welfare, but statistics are also indicative it has positive employment effects. [8] Essentially, the encouragement of work also facilitates higher employment rates.

Poverty Reduction
One of the most important benefits of the EITC and similar programs is its implication on impoverished individuals and families. It's removed millions of people from poverty [9] and actually has implications that can lead to the prevention of future poverty. This includes benefits to infant health (which eliminates unnecessary health costs and improves overall health). [10] Moreover, it shows that it will lead children to receive better test scores. [11] The subsequent result is a better education, which makes it easier to find a job that won't result in wages that are too low for sustenance. These benefits suggest the EITC is effective at both reducing and preventing poverty.

Quality of Life
By improving health, test scores, and poverty, the EITC concurrently improves the quality of life for millions of Americans. The Annie E. Casey Foundation highlights the aspects which improve quality of life for citizens nation-wide: "The credits provide crucial income that hard-working families can use to reduce debt, fund savings, offset education costs, buy a car to get to work, or make the down payment on a home. And they bring millions of dollars into the economies of distressed rural and urban communities." [12] These indubitably assist quality of life for these poverty-ridden families.

Conclusion:
The EITC would assist in the potentially extensive endeavor of simplifying tax code while simultaneously acting as a superior alternative to raising the minimum wage, stimulating the economy, reducing poverty, and increasing employment.

Sources:
[1] http://www.cbpp.org...
[2] https://www.irs.gov...
[3] http://www.brookings.edu...
[4] Eissa and Liebman 1996; Meyer and Rosenbaum 2000, 2001
[5] http://www.taxcreditsforworkingfamilies.org...
[6] https://www.eiseverywhere.com...
[7] http://www.grbj.com...
[8] http://www.nber.org...
[9] http://equitablegrowth.org...
[10] http://www.nber.org...
[11] https://www.aeaweb.org...
[12] http://www.aecf.org...
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11/4/2015 10:01:26 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
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11/4/2015 11:00:22 PM
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I don't really see the point of making a forum topic for this if all you're doing is presenting a generic debate case. Better to just do a debate on it. Especially since this isn't one of those controversial issues where you're going to get a bunch of different people attacking your arguments.

That aside, I agree with everything you said. NIT is awesome, and should be near the top of every government's to-do list.
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11/4/2015 11:09:19 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/4/2015 11:00:22 PM, Insignifica wrote:
I don't really see the point of making a forum topic for this if all you're doing is presenting a generic debate case. Better to just do a debate on it. Especially since this isn't one of those controversial issues where you're going to get a bunch of different people attacking your arguments.

I just wanted critiques and discussion, though I know it's not really a controversial subject. Rather, I think it's an interesting one, and this forum would be informative for MW proponents. :) Otherwise, yeah, you're right -- a debate would be nice.

That aside, I agree with everything you said.

There's a first time for everything. ;) Awesome!

NIT is awesome, and should be near the top of every government's to-do list.

What do you mean by NIT?
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11/4/2015 11:10:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/4/2015 11:00:22 PM, Insignifica wrote:

Also, a big reason I did this was in hopes of doing my part in reviving the economics forum... since JMK left, there hasn't been much with substance here.
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11/4/2015 11:14:07 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/4/2015 11:09:19 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/4/2015 11:00:22 PM, Insignifica wrote:

this forum would be informative for MW proponents. :)

That is true. The only reason I don't support MW is because NIT accomplishes the same goal more effectively.


NIT is awesome, and should be near the top of every government's to-do list.

What do you mean by NIT?

Negative income taxation. It's just EITC applied to both tax reform and welfare reform.
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11/4/2015 11:24:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/4/2015 11:14:07 PM, Insignifica wrote:
At 11/4/2015 11:09:19 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/4/2015 11:00:22 PM, Insignifica wrote:

this forum would be informative for MW proponents. :)

That is true. The only reason I don't support MW is because NIT accomplishes the same goal more effectively.

No need for "more" since the MW increase isn't effective... Nah, jk. :) I know what you mean, and the EITC is one (of many) reasons I'm against the MW as well. :)

Also, I forgot to add "Thoughts?" at the bottom, or something to that effect. My bad.


NIT is awesome, and should be near the top of every government's to-do list.

What do you mean by NIT?

Negative income taxation. It's just EITC applied to both tax reform and welfare reform.

Ah, I see. :)
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11/5/2015 12:51:20 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/4/2015 11:24:18 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/4/2015 11:14:07 PM, Insignifica wrote:
At 11/4/2015 11:09:19 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/4/2015 11:00:22 PM, Insignifica wrote:

this forum would be informative for MW proponents. :)

That is true. The only reason I don't support MW is because NIT accomplishes the same goal more effectively.

No need for "more" since the MW increase isn't effective... Nah, jk. :) I know what you mean, and the EITC is one (of many) reasons I'm against the MW as well. :)

I agree that minimum wage results in unemployment for a small population of workers (even when I supported MW, I acknowledged that). But it also vastly increases the standards of living for a much greater population of workers, which kinda outweighs it.

But... NIT does the same thing, and without incurring any unemployment. And it also lessens the harms of abolishing MW by eliminating the problems associated with relying on the traditional welfare system to subsidize the lower classes [http://www.debate.org...].
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11/5/2015 4:00:26 AM
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At 11/5/2015 12:51:20 AM, Insignifica wrote:
At 11/4/2015 11:24:18 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/4/2015 11:14:07 PM, Insignifica wrote:
At 11/4/2015 11:09:19 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/4/2015 11:00:22 PM, Insignifica wrote:

this forum would be informative for MW proponents. :)

That is true. The only reason I don't support MW is because NIT accomplishes the same goal more effectively.

No need for "more" since the MW increase isn't effective... Nah, jk. :) I know what you mean, and the EITC is one (of many) reasons I'm against the MW as well. :)

I agree that minimum wage results in unemployment for a small population of workers (even when I supported MW, I acknowledged that). But it also vastly increases the standards of living for a much greater population of workers, which kinda outweighs it.

The net effects are disputable, I'll give you that. ;) I acknowledge that the standard of living for *some* is increased, but I wouldn't necessarily say it outweighs the detriments. It's a sticky situation all around.

But... NIT does the same thing, and without incurring any unemployment. And it also lessens the harms of abolishing MW by eliminating the problems associated with relying on the traditional welfare system to subsidize the lower classes [http://www.debate.org...].

Yeah. :)
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11/5/2015 11:06:10 AM
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Or you could just give to charity and encourage others to do the same. That doesn't involve assuming, on net, you are less "evil" than others or metaphorically pointing guns at people, forcing them to give.
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11/6/2015 1:26:10 AM
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At 11/5/2015 11:06:10 AM, ax123man wrote:
Or you could just give to charity and encourage others to do the same.

That would be the free will offering of the people, not government funding. Do you really think the populace would be willing to dish out that kind of money? Highly doubtful.

That doesn't involve assuming, on net, you are less "evil" than others or metaphorically pointing guns at people, forcing them to give.

Exactly... so enough funds wouldn't be raised to compensate for the benefits the EITC would provide. Besides, I don't see the need for an 'alternative' to this alternative... It literally has close to NO harms, except expense. But then again, to reduce poverty, that's the tradeoff of any policy.
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11/6/2015 1:28:09 AM
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At 11/4/2015 11:00:22 PM, Insignifica wrote:

I'd like to thank you for becoming active in the forums... it really helps to get discussion going. :)
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11/6/2015 2:53:34 AM
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At 11/6/2015 1:26:10 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
That would be the free will offering of the people, not government funding. Do you really think the populace would be willing to dish out that kind of money? Highly doubtful.
Think of how much people end up donating to their presidential candidates. People only deserve what they payed for themselves.
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11/6/2015 3:01:21 AM
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At 11/6/2015 2:53:34 AM, BlackFlags wrote:
At 11/6/2015 1:26:10 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
That would be the free will offering of the people, not government funding. Do you really think the populace would be willing to dish out that kind of money? Highly doubtful.
Think of how much people end up donating to their presidential candidates. People only deserve what they payed for themselves.

But, why would they donate to people they don't know; people that won't lead their country or may not even support a cause about which they are passionate?

Regardless, I'd like your opinion on the OP, specifically, rather than this donation tangent.
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11/6/2015 11:40:43 AM
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At 11/6/2015 1:26:10 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/5/2015 11:06:10 AM, ax123man wrote:
Or you could just give to charity and encourage others to do the same.

That would be the free will offering of the people, not government funding. Do you really think the populace would be willing to dish out that kind of money? Highly doubtful.

How do you know this for sure? You would think that if politicians were truly benevolent, they would get the best minds together and look at this. Then they would realize it's not as obvious as it looks. Government money crowds out charity and has other negative consequences. Then they would want to experiment at the state level with systems with and without welfare. It's weird though, for some reason that never happens.

Btw, since 1965 private charity has given 10$ trillion while govt welfare has given 19$ trillion. But you have to consider a few things here:
1) govt. welfare crowds out charity
2) this doesn't count 100's of billions of hours of volunteer work
3) govt welfare is incredibly inefficient. Multiply the 19$ trillion by 1/3, and the 10$ trillion by 2/3
4) govt welfare has severe negative consequences
5) private charity is more effective because it's localized. Much of govt. welfare is poorly targeted, providing to those who don't really need it.

that's off the top of my head.


That doesn't involve assuming, on net, you are less "evil" than others or metaphorically pointing guns at people, forcing them to give.

Exactly... so enough funds wouldn't be raised to compensate for the benefits the EITC would provide. Besides, I don't see the need for an 'alternative' to this alternative... It literally has close to NO harms, except expense. But then again, to reduce poverty, that's the tradeoff of any policy.

NO harms? It's a little odd that anyone thinks any tax has no harm. If that were the case, why not go full socialism?

1) any tax harms the taxed, period.
2) harms childless workers by reducing their wages w/o an offsetting EITC payment
3) encourages having more children than one would w/o the EITC. This is a harm in my book because, if you didn't want 3 children, how's the child rearing going to go?
4) some empirical evidence casts doubt on it's affect on labor force participation. The variables are complex: substitution effect vs income effect. It's difficult to tell for sure what the effect is. You can't just assume it's positive. combinations of federal EITC, TANF, state EITC and other programs can create strong downward labor participation in some cases
5) negative employment incentive for 2nd workers in married households

Anything that interferes with voluntary exchanges is harmful.

You really want to help the poor? Then remove barriers to entry and encourage entrepreneurship. Example: in many (most?) states, in order to provide services as an auto-mechanic, you have to have a permanent facility, get a specific mechanics license, business license, etc. Also, add zoning restrictions to this, which increase the cost of a facility. This reduces the supply of mechanics (explaining the 100$ + rates of labor at many shops) which hurts the poor who need this work done, but also prevents them from setting up their own shop.

Nearly every type of business there is has restrictions of some kind, including the ridiculous examples that apply to hair salons, nail salons, etc. I wonder if THOSE bureaucrats are the same ones advocating EITC, and how the rationalize all of this.

Politicians are doing nothing more than buying your support. Once you see that, it all becomes pretty clear.
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11/6/2015 2:35:51 PM
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At 11/6/2015 11:40:43 AM, ax123man wrote:
At 11/6/2015 1:26:10 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/5/2015 11:06:10 AM, ax123man wrote:
Or you could just give to charity and encourage others to do the same.

That would be the free will offering of the people, not government funding. Do you really think the populace would be willing to dish out that kind of money? Highly doubtful.

How do you know this for sure? You would think that if politicians were truly benevolent, they would get the best minds together and look at this. Then they would realize it's not as obvious as it looks.

What politicians are actually benevolent?

Government money crowds out charity and has other negative consequences.

Lol, what? How can welfare "crowd out" charity? People can *still* give money even if there is welfare. And what are these "other negative consequences" of which you speak?

Then they would want to experiment at the state level with systems with and without welfare. It's weird though, for some reason that never happens.

Btw, since 1965 private charity has given 10$ trillion while govt welfare has given 19$ trillion.

Gov. welfare > private charity. Also... how do you garner that number, if charity is actually private? You wouldn't know unless it was all directed towards you. Also, if you *know* of these donations, they don't qualify as private.

But you have to consider a few things here:
1) govt. welfare crowds out charity

You haven't shown this, and it's not possible... The government, by giving others money, can't mandate that others don't give money either.

2) this doesn't count 100's of billions of hours of volunteer work

That's not monetary gain/loss -- it's irrelevant to the purpose of welfare/tax credits

3) govt welfare is incredibly inefficient. Multiply the 19$ trillion by 1/3, and the 10$ trillion by 2/3

How is it inefficient?! You haven't shown how it's inefficient in any regard, and "multiplying" those numbers doesn't give an explanation of how it's supposedly "inefficient."

4) govt welfare has severe negative consequences

Again, you haven't explain what these "severe negative consequences" are...

5) private charity is more effective because it's localized. Much of govt. welfare is poorly targeted, providing to those who don't really need it.

It's better targeted than a MW -- and again, not everyone is going to give charity. This is demonstrably true as you can observe a homeless person on the side of a road begging, and view hundreds of cars (depending on the area) drive past without stopping.

that's off the top of my head.

Yeah.

That doesn't involve assuming, on net, you are less "evil" than others or metaphorically pointing guns at people, forcing them to give.

Exactly... so enough funds wouldn't be raised to compensate for the benefits the EITC would provide. Besides, I don't see the need for an 'alternative' to this alternative... It literally has close to NO harms, except expense. But then again, to reduce poverty, that's the tradeoff of any policy.

NO harms? It's a little odd that anyone thinks any tax has no harm. If that were the case, why not go full socialism?

I'm talking specifically about the EITC, not taxation in general. Read the OP -- it explains what the EITC actually is. And no, it doesn't promote socialism, lol.

1) any tax harms the taxed, period.

Why not go full libertarian? Lol -- the same logic applies, taxes exist, so we must deal with them and utilize them to their *best* potential.

2) harms childless workers by reducing their wages w/o an offsetting EITC payment

Reducing wages? Not really. It facilitates work, which would raise income. Wages are already low, but raising them isn't the answer. Maintaining these low-wage jobs in concurrency with the EITC can reduce poverty.

3) encourages having more children than one would w/o the EITC.

How??

This is a harm in my book because, if you didn't want 3 children, how's the child rearing going to go?

If it "encourages" a couple to "have more children," then how does that equal that they "didn't want [x] children" in the first place?

4) some empirical evidence casts doubt on it's affect on labor force participation.

Show it to me -- the forums allow you to link sites.

The variables are complex: substitution effect vs income effect. It's difficult to tell for sure what the effect is. You can't just assume it's positive. combinations of federal EITC, TANF, state EITC and other programs can create strong downward labor participation in some cases

Show me how this is true? I've explained this is empirically false...
"...reforms have had small net effects on welfare use but important effects on employment, labor supply, and (to some extent) earnings and income." - [http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu...]
"...the EITC may be the single most important policy for explaining
recent increases in work and earnings and declines in receipt of cash welfare assistance..." - [http://www.taxcreditsforworkingfamilies.org...]
About the effect on MW - "Welfare reform and the growth of state EITCs have changed incentives to work, and in doing so have potentially changed the effects of minimum wages." About employment - "there is strong evidence that the EITC boosts employment of young women..." - [http://ftp.iza.org...]

5) negative employment incentive for 2nd workers in married households

Perhaps short-term -- although they don't actually *need* the money since their poverty will be relatively mitigated -- the long-term effects (b/c better quality of life) will facilitate better job opportunities.

Anything that interferes with voluntary exchanges is harmful.

Again, it doesn't.

You really want to help the poor? Then remove barriers to entry and encourage entrepreneurship. Example: in many (most?) states, in order to provide services as an auto-mechanic, you have to have a permanent facility, get a specific mechanics license, business license, etc. Also, add zoning restrictions to this, which increase the cost of a facility. This reduces the supply of mechanics (explaining the 100$ + rates of labor at many shops) which hurts the poor who need this work done, but also prevents them from setting up their own shop.

I think this would be a pretty good idea, but it doesn't meet immediate need, as the EITC does

Nearly every type of business there is has restrictions of some kind, including the ridiculous examples that apply to hair salons, nail salons, etc.

What are those? (Lol, they're shoes)

I wonder if THOSE bureaucrats are the same ones advocating EITC, and how the rationalize all of this.

Idk

Politicians are doing nothing more than buying your support. Once you see that, it all becomes pretty clear.

Yet earlier you mentioned that if they were "truly benevolent" they'd figure it out. The studies by partisan and non-partisan studies indicate the EITC is, on net, beneficial.
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11/6/2015 2:38:39 PM
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Btw, this is for the Bi-Weekly Topics. :)
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11/6/2015 2:50:53 PM
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At 11/6/2015 1:28:09 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/4/2015 11:00:22 PM, Insignifica wrote:

I'd like to thank you for becoming active in the forums... it really helps to get discussion going. :)

You're welcome.... I guess
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11/6/2015 2:51:55 PM
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At 11/6/2015 2:50:53 PM, Insignifica wrote:
At 11/6/2015 1:28:09 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/4/2015 11:00:22 PM, Insignifica wrote:

I'd like to thank you for becoming active in the forums... it really helps to get discussion going. :)

You're welcome.... I guess

Lol... okay...
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11/6/2015 3:06:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/6/2015 2:53:03 PM, Insignifica wrote:
I'll get around to responding to all the anti-welfare people soon.

Lol, alright.
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11/6/2015 9:18:49 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/3/2015 8:17:05 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
Introduction:

The EITC (Earned Income Tax Credit) has been oft appraised as a more appropriate solution to mitigating poverty than raising the minimum wage. According to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, the EITC is "a federal tax credit for low and moderate income working people." [1] Essentially, this program provides a monetary reward for working families whose wages are too low to effectively support themselves. As of now, over half of the US (26 states, plus DC) have implemented the EITC in their own form. As a simple definition of how it operates, the Internal Revenue simplifies, "[the] EITC reduces the amount of tax you owe and may give you a refund." [2] In practice, this would be a definite benefit to low to moderate income workers who are having considerable difficulty supporting themselves and their family.


Benefits:

In the recent past (2013), the EITC has been demonstrably successful.
<img src="http://www.cbpp.org/sites/default/files/styles/report_371px/public/atoms/files/8-20-15tax.png?itok=CJatJtDO" alt="Earned Income Tax Credit and Child Tax Credit Have Powerful Antipoverty Impact"/> [http://www.cbpp.org...]

In 2012 alone, the program is accredited to keeping 6.5 million (3.3 million children) out of poverty. [3] To date, it is the *most* successful tax program in preventing poverty (for children), and is only trumped by Social Security (which is actually different, as it doesn't require that the recipients work, and has a juxtaposed application). For its specific target, it has been widely popular and largely successful. Empirical research on the topic suggests there is "sizable and robust increases in employment." [3] [4]

Common appraisals for the EITC stem from the view that it will fiscally stimulate the state and incentivize working to people previously relying singularly on welfare (causing them to [7], or individuals with no inherent previous desire to climb the corporate ladder. The majority of candidates (GOP and Democrats alike) for the 2016 presidential election support an increase of either the EITC or similar programs. [5] In it is no hard task to recognize the current US tax code is in desperate need of substantial change.

Encouraging Work
There is overwhelming consensus the EITC program would incentivize work and encourage individuals to seek employment. [6] First of all, it gives reward for work, thus making work more appealing to individuals. Not only does it appeal to people relying on welfare, but statistics are also indicative it has positive employment effects. [8] Essentially, the encouragement of work also facilitates higher employment rates.

Poverty Reduction
One of the most important benefits of the EITC and similar programs is its implication on impoverished individuals and families. It's removed millions of people from poverty [9] and actually has implications that can lead to the prevention of future poverty. This includes benefits to infant health (which eliminates unnecessary health costs and improves overall health). [10] Moreover, it shows that it will lead children to receive better test scores. [11] The subsequent result is a better education, which makes it easier to find a job that won't result in wages that are too low for sustenance. These benefits suggest the EITC is effective at both reducing and preventing poverty.

Quality of Life
By improving health, test scores, and poverty, the EITC concurrently improves the quality of life for millions of Americans. The Annie E. Casey Foundation highlights the aspects which improve quality of life for citizens nation-wide: "The credits provide crucial income that hard-working families can use to reduce debt, fund savings, offset education costs, buy a car to get to work, or make the down payment on a home. And they bring millions of dollars into the economies of distressed rural and urban communities." [12] These indubitably assist quality of life for these poverty-ridden families.

Conclusion:
The EITC would assist in the potentially extensive endeavor of simplifying tax code while simultaneously acting as a superior alternative to raising the minimum wage, stimulating the economy, reducing poverty, and increasing employment.

Sources:
[1] http://www.cbpp.org...
[2] https://www.irs.gov...
[3] http://www.brookings.edu...
[4] Eissa and Liebman 1996; Meyer and Rosenbaum 2000, 2001
[5] http://www.taxcreditsforworkingfamilies.org...
[6] https://www.eiseverywhere.com...
[7] http://www.grbj.com...
[8] http://www.nber.org...
[9] http://equitablegrowth.org...
[10] http://www.nber.org...
[11] https://www.aeaweb.org...
[12] http://www.aecf.org...
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11/6/2015 9:19:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/6/2015 9:18:49 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 11/3/2015 8:17:05 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
Introduction:

The EITC (Earned Income Tax Credit) has been oft appraised as a more appropriate solution to mitigating poverty than raising the minimum wage. According to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, the EITC is "a federal tax credit for low and moderate income working people." [1] Essentially, this program provides a monetary reward for working families whose wages are too low to effectively support themselves. As of now, over half of the US (26 states, plus DC) have implemented the EITC in their own form. As a simple definition of how it operates, the Internal Revenue simplifies, "[the] EITC reduces the amount of tax you owe and may give you a refund." [2] In practice, this would be a definite benefit to low to moderate income workers who are having considerable difficulty supporting themselves and their family.


Benefits:

In the recent past (2013), the EITC has been demonstrably successful.
<img src="http://www.cbpp.org/sites/default/files/styles/report_371px/public/atoms/files/8-20-15tax.png?itok=CJatJtDO" alt="Earned Income Tax Credit and Child Tax Credit Have Powerful Antipoverty Impact"/> [http://www.cbpp.org...]

In 2012 alone, the program is accredited to keeping 6.5 million (3.3 million children) out of poverty. [3] To date, it is the *most* successful tax program in preventing poverty (for children), and is only trumped by Social Security (which is actually different, as it doesn't require that the recipients work, and has a juxtaposed application). For its specific target, it has been widely popular and largely successful. Empirical research on the topic suggests there is "sizable and robust increases in employment." [3] [4]

Common appraisals for the EITC stem from the view that it will fiscally stimulate the state and incentivize working to people previously relying singularly on welfare (causing them to [7], or individuals with no inherent previous desire to climb the corporate ladder. The majority of candidates (GOP and Democrats alike) for the 2016 presidential election support an increase of either the EITC or similar programs. [5] In it is no hard task to recognize the current US tax code is in desperate need of substantial change.

Encouraging Work
There is overwhelming consensus the EITC program would incentivize work and encourage individuals to seek employment. [6] First of all, it gives reward for work, thus making work more appealing to individuals. Not only does it appeal to people relying on welfare, but statistics are also indicative it has positive employment effects. [8] Essentially, the encouragement of work also facilitates higher employment rates.

Poverty Reduction
One of the most important benefits of the EITC and similar programs is its implication on impoverished individuals and families. It's removed millions of people from poverty [9] and actually has implications that can lead to the prevention of future poverty. This includes benefits to infant health (which eliminates unnecessary health costs and improves overall health). [10] Moreover, it shows that it will lead children to receive better test scores. [11] The subsequent result is a better education, which makes it easier to find a job that won't result in wages that are too low for sustenance. These benefits suggest the EITC is effective at both reducing and preventing poverty.

Quality of Life
By improving health, test scores, and poverty, the EITC concurrently improves the quality of life for millions of Americans. The Annie E. Casey Foundation highlights the aspects which improve quality of life for citizens nation-wide: "The credits provide crucial income that hard-working families can use to reduce debt, fund savings, offset education costs, buy a car to get to work, or make the down payment on a home. And they bring millions of dollars into the economies of distressed rural and urban communities." [12] These indubitably assist quality of life for these poverty-ridden families.

Conclusion:
The EITC would assist in the potentially extensive endeavor of simplifying tax code while simultaneously acting as a superior alternative to raising the minimum wage, stimulating the economy, reducing poverty, and increasing employment.

Sources:
[1] http://www.cbpp.org...
[2] https://www.irs.gov...
[3] http://www.brookings.edu...
[4] Eissa and Liebman 1996; Meyer and Rosenbaum 2000, 2001
[5] http://www.taxcreditsforworkingfamilies.org...
[6] https://www.eiseverywhere.com...
[7] http://www.grbj.com...
[8] http://www.nber.org...
[9] http://equitablegrowth.org...
[10] http://www.nber.org...
[11] https://www.aeaweb.org...
[12] http://www.aecf.org...

What? Lol :P
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"So, to start off, I've never committed suicide." -- Vaarka
"I eat glue." -- brontoraptor
"I mean, at this rate, I'd argue for a ham sandwich presidency." -- ResponsiblyIrresponsible
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11/6/2015 9:23:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/6/2015 9:19:39 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/6/2015 9:18:49 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 11/3/2015 8:17:05 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
Introduction:

The EITC (Earned Income Tax Credit) has been oft appraised as a more appropriate solution to mitigating poverty than raising the minimum wage. According to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, the EITC is "a federal tax credit for low and moderate income working people." [1] Essentially, this program provides a monetary reward for working families whose wages are too low to effectively support themselves. As of now, over half of the US (26 states, plus DC) have implemented the EITC in their own form. As a simple definition of how it operates, the Internal Revenue simplifies, "[the] EITC reduces the amount of tax you owe and may give you a refund." [2] In practice, this would be a definite benefit to low to moderate income workers who are having considerable difficulty supporting themselves and their family.


Benefits:

In the recent past (2013), the EITC has been demonstrably successful.
<img src="http://www.cbpp.org/sites/default/files/styles/report_371px/public/atoms/files/8-20-15tax.png?itok=CJatJtDO" alt="Earned Income Tax Credit and Child Tax Credit Have Powerful Antipoverty Impact"/> [http://www.cbpp.org...]

In 2012 alone, the program is accredited to keeping 6.5 million (3.3 million children) out of poverty. [3] To date, it is the *most* successful tax program in preventing poverty (for children), and is only trumped by Social Security (which is actually different, as it doesn't require that the recipients work, and has a juxtaposed application). For its specific target, it has been widely popular and largely successful. Empirical research on the topic suggests there is "sizable and robust increases in employment." [3] [4]

Common appraisals for the EITC stem from the view that it will fiscally stimulate the state and incentivize working to people previously relying singularly on welfare (causing them to [7], or individuals with no inherent previous desire to climb the corporate ladder. The majority of candidates (GOP and Democrats alike) for the 2016 presidential election support an increase of either the EITC or similar programs. [5] In it is no hard task to recognize the current US tax code is in desperate need of substantial change.

Encouraging Work
There is overwhelming consensus the EITC program would incentivize work and encourage individuals to seek employment. [6] First of all, it gives reward for work, thus making work more appealing to individuals. Not only does it appeal to people relying on welfare, but statistics are also indicative it has positive employment effects. [8] Essentially, the encouragement of work also facilitates higher employment rates.

Poverty Reduction
One of the most important benefits of the EITC and similar programs is its implication on impoverished individuals and families. It's removed millions of people from poverty [9] and actually has implications that can lead to the prevention of future poverty. This includes benefits to infant health (which eliminates unnecessary health costs and improves overall health). [10] Moreover, it shows that it will lead children to receive better test scores. [11] The subsequent result is a better education, which makes it easier to find a job that won't result in wages that are too low for sustenance. These benefits suggest the EITC is effective at both reducing and preventing poverty.

Quality of Life
By improving health, test scores, and poverty, the EITC concurrently improves the quality of life for millions of Americans. The Annie E. Casey Foundation highlights the aspects which improve quality of life for citizens nation-wide: "The credits provide crucial income that hard-working families can use to reduce debt, fund savings, offset education costs, buy a car to get to work, or make the down payment on a home. And they bring millions of dollars into the economies of distressed rural and urban communities." [12] These indubitably assist quality of life for these poverty-ridden families.

Conclusion:
The EITC would assist in the potentially extensive endeavor of simplifying tax code while simultaneously acting as a superior alternative to raising the minimum wage, stimulating the economy, reducing poverty, and increasing employment.

Sources:
[1] http://www.cbpp.org...
[2] https://www.irs.gov...
[3] http://www.brookings.edu...
[4] Eissa and Liebman 1996; Meyer and Rosenbaum 2000, 2001
[5] http://www.taxcreditsforworkingfamilies.org...
[6] https://www.eiseverywhere.com...
[7] http://www.grbj.com...
[8] http://www.nber.org...
[9] http://equitablegrowth.org...
[10] http://www.nber.org...
[11] https://www.aeaweb.org...
[12] http://www.aecf.org...

What? Lol :P

Oops, my bad..lol
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11/6/2015 9:25:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/6/2015 9:23:23 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 11/6/2015 9:19:39 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/6/2015 9:18:49 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 11/3/2015 8:17:05 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
Introduction:

The EITC (Earned Income Tax Credit) has been oft appraised as a more appropriate solution to mitigating poverty than raising the minimum wage. According to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, the EITC is "a federal tax credit for low and moderate income working people." [1] Essentially, this program provides a monetary reward for working families whose wages are too low to effectively support themselves. As of now, over half of the US (26 states, plus DC) have implemented the EITC in their own form. As a simple definition of how it operates, the Internal Revenue simplifies, "[the] EITC reduces the amount of tax you owe and may give you a refund." [2] In practice, this would be a definite benefit to low to moderate income workers who are having considerable difficulty supporting themselves and their family.


Benefits:

In the recent past (2013), the EITC has been demonstrably successful.
<img src="http://www.cbpp.org/sites/default/files/styles/report_371px/public/atoms/files/8-20-15tax.png?itok=CJatJtDO" alt="Earned Income Tax Credit and Child Tax Credit Have Powerful Antipoverty Impact"/> [http://www.cbpp.org...]

In 2012 alone, the program is accredited to keeping 6.5 million (3.3 million children) out of poverty. [3] To date, it is the *most* successful tax program in preventing poverty (for children), and is only trumped by Social Security (which is actually different, as it doesn't require that the recipients work, and has a juxtaposed application). For its specific target, it has been widely popular and largely successful. Empirical research on the topic suggests there is "sizable and robust increases in employment." [3] [4]

Common appraisals for the EITC stem from the view that it will fiscally stimulate the state and incentivize working to people previously relying singularly on welfare (causing them to [7], or individuals with no inherent previous desire to climb the corporate ladder. The majority of candidates (GOP and Democrats alike) for the 2016 presidential election support an increase of either the EITC or similar programs. [5] In it is no hard task to recognize the current US tax code is in desperate need of substantial change.

Encouraging Work
There is overwhelming consensus the EITC program would incentivize work and encourage individuals to seek employment. [6] First of all, it gives reward for work, thus making work more appealing to individuals. Not only does it appeal to people relying on welfare, but statistics are also indicative it has positive employment effects. [8] Essentially, the encouragement of work also facilitates higher employment rates.

Poverty Reduction
One of the most important benefits of the EITC and similar programs is its implication on impoverished individuals and families. It's removed millions of people from poverty [9] and actually has implications that can lead to the prevention of future poverty. This includes benefits to infant health (which eliminates unnecessary health costs and improves overall health). [10] Moreover, it shows that it will lead children to receive better test scores. [11] The subsequent result is a better education, which makes it easier to find a job that won't result in wages that are too low for sustenance. These benefits suggest the EITC is effective at both reducing and preventing poverty.

Quality of Life
By improving health, test scores, and poverty, the EITC concurrently improves the quality of life for millions of Americans. The Annie E. Casey Foundation highlights the aspects which improve quality of life for citizens nation-wide: "The credits provide crucial income that hard-working families can use to reduce debt, fund savings, offset education costs, buy a car to get to work, or make the down payment on a home. And they bring millions of dollars into the economies of distressed rural and urban communities." [12] These indubitably assist quality of life for these poverty-ridden families.

Conclusion:
The EITC would assist in the potentially extensive endeavor of simplifying tax code while simultaneously acting as a superior alternative to raising the minimum wage, stimulating the economy, reducing poverty, and increasing employment.

Sources:
[1] http://www.cbpp.org...
[2] https://www.irs.gov...
[3] http://www.brookings.edu...
[4] Eissa and Liebman 1996; Meyer and Rosenbaum 2000, 2001
[5] http://www.taxcreditsforworkingfamilies.org...
[6] https://www.eiseverywhere.com...
[7] http://www.grbj.com...
[8] http://www.nber.org...
[9] http://equitablegrowth.org...
[10] http://www.nber.org...
[11] https://www.aeaweb.org...
[12] http://www.aecf.org...

What? Lol :P

Oops, my bad..lol

Lol, no prob. Though, I'd like your response, if you have one. ;)
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"So, to start off, I've never committed suicide." -- Vaarka
"I eat glue." -- brontoraptor
"I mean, at this rate, I'd argue for a ham sandwich presidency." -- ResponsiblyIrresponsible
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11/6/2015 9:33:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/6/2015 9:25:02 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/6/2015 9:23:23 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 11/6/2015 9:19:39 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/6/2015 9:18:49 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 11/3/2015 8:17:05 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
Introduction:

The EITC (Earned Income Tax Credit) has been oft appraised as a more appropriate solution to mitigating poverty than raising the minimum wage. According to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, the EITC is "a federal tax credit for low and moderate income working people." [1] Essentially, this program provides a monetary reward for working families whose wages are too low to effectively support themselves. As of now, over half of the US (26 states, plus DC) have implemented the EITC in their own form. As a simple definition of how it operates, the Internal Revenue simplifies, "[the] EITC reduces the amount of tax you owe and may give you a refund." [2] In practice, this would be a definite benefit to low to moderate income workers who are having considerable difficulty supporting themselves and their family.


Benefits:

In the recent past (2013), the EITC has been demonstrably successful.
<img src="http://www.cbpp.org/sites/default/files/styles/report_371px/public/atoms/files/8-20-15tax.png?itok=CJatJtDO" alt="Earned Income Tax Credit and Child Tax Credit Have Powerful Antipoverty Impact"/> [http://www.cbpp.org...]

In 2012 alone, the program is accredited to keeping 6.5 million (3.3 million children) out of poverty. [3] To date, it is the *most* successful tax program in preventing poverty (for children), and is only trumped by Social Security (which is actually different, as it doesn't require that the recipients work, and has a juxtaposed application). For its specific target, it has been widely popular and largely successful. Empirical research on the topic suggests there is "sizable and robust increases in employment." [3] [4]

Common appraisals for the EITC stem from the view that it will fiscally stimulate the state and incentivize working to people previously relying singularly on welfare (causing them to [7], or individuals with no inherent previous desire to climb the corporate ladder. The majority of candidates (GOP and Democrats alike) for the 2016 presidential election support an increase of either the EITC or similar programs. [5] In it is no hard task to recognize the current US tax code is in desperate need of substantial change.

Encouraging Work
There is overwhelming consensus the EITC program would incentivize work and encourage individuals to seek employment. [6] First of all, it gives reward for work, thus making work more appealing to individuals. Not only does it appeal to people relying on welfare, but statistics are also indicative it has positive employment effects. [8] Essentially, the encouragement of work also facilitates higher employment rates.

Poverty Reduction
One of the most important benefits of the EITC and similar programs is its implication on impoverished individuals and families. It's removed millions of people from poverty [9] and actually has implications that can lead to the prevention of future poverty. This includes benefits to infant health (which eliminates unnecessary health costs and improves overall health). [10] Moreover, it shows that it will lead children to receive better test scores. [11] The subsequent result is a better education, which makes it easier to find a job that won't result in wages that are too low for sustenance. These benefits suggest the EITC is effective at both reducing and preventing poverty.

Quality of Life
By improving health, test scores, and poverty, the EITC concurrently improves the quality of life for millions of Americans. The Annie E. Casey Foundation highlights the aspects which improve quality of life for citizens nation-wide: "The credits provide crucial income that hard-working families can use to reduce debt, fund savings, offset education costs, buy a car to get to work, or make the down payment on a home. And they bring millions of dollars into the economies of distressed rural and urban communities." [12] These indubitably assist quality of life for these poverty-ridden families.

Conclusion:
The EITC would assist in the potentially extensive endeavor of simplifying tax code while simultaneously acting as a superior alternative to raising the minimum wage, stimulating the economy, reducing poverty, and increasing employment.

Sources:
[1] http://www.cbpp.org...
[2] https://www.irs.gov...
[3] http://www.brookings.edu...
[4] Eissa and Liebman 1996; Meyer and Rosenbaum 2000, 2001
[5] http://www.taxcreditsforworkingfamilies.org...
[6] https://www.eiseverywhere.com...
[7] http://www.grbj.com...
[8] http://www.nber.org...
[9] http://equitablegrowth.org...
[10] http://www.nber.org...
[11] https://www.aeaweb.org...
[12] http://www.aecf.org...

What? Lol :P

Oops, my bad..lol

Lol, no prob. Though, I'd like your response, if you have one. ;)

Me+economics=bad mix
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11/6/2015 9:38:39 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/6/2015 9:33:44 PM, Rosalie wrote:
Me+economics=bad mix

Leeconomics... it has a good ring. ;) Maybe you should read more so you can learn! :) I need more people with whom to discuss it. JMK doesn't come around much anymore... :P
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"I eat glue." -- brontoraptor
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11/6/2015 9:41:37 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/6/2015 9:38:39 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/6/2015 9:33:44 PM, Rosalie wrote:
Me+economics=bad mix

Leeconomics... it has a good ring. ;) Maybe you should read more so you can learn! :) I need more people with whom to discuss it. JMK doesn't come around much anymore... :P

Sounds like a French term....I don't like French :p
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11/6/2015 9:44:00 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/6/2015 9:41:37 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 11/6/2015 9:38:39 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/6/2015 9:33:44 PM, Rosalie wrote:
Me+economics=bad mix

Leeconomics... it has a good ring. ;) Maybe you should read more so you can learn! :) I need more people with whom to discuss it. JMK doesn't come around much anymore... :P

Sounds like a French term....I don't like French :p

Rats. Oh well... I tried. ;P
"The right to 360 noscope noobs shall not be infringed!!!" -- tajshar2k
"So, to start off, I've never committed suicide." -- Vaarka
"I eat glue." -- brontoraptor
"I mean, at this rate, I'd argue for a ham sandwich presidency." -- ResponsiblyIrresponsible
"Overthrow Assad, heil jihad." -- 16kadams when trolling in hangout
"Hillary Clinton is not my favorite person ... and her campaign is as inspiring as a bowl of cottage cheese." -- YYW
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11/6/2015 9:47:47 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/6/2015 9:44:00 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/6/2015 9:41:37 PM, Rosalie wrote:
At 11/6/2015 9:38:39 PM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 11/6/2015 9:33:44 PM, Rosalie wrote:
Me+economics=bad mix

Leeconomics... it has a good ring. ;) Maybe you should read more so you can learn! :) I need more people with whom to discuss it. JMK doesn't come around much anymore... :P

Sounds like a French term....I don't like French :p

Rats. Oh well... I tried. ;P

Unless you teach me :p
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