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1/13/2011 2:18:13 PM
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Discuss . . .
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1/13/2011 6:40:43 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/13/2011 2:18:13 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
Discuss . . .
She's an annoying equality-Nazi in that instead of rewarding people based on what they deserve in terms of work, skill, etc. she balances the paychecks so that a lazy bum can earn as much as an experienced doctor.
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1/13/2011 6:45:10 PM
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At 1/13/2011 2:18:13 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
Discuss . . .

It amazes me how much people don't know about socialism. Such as the myth that the part time bus boy makes as much as the doctor.
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1/13/2011 9:06:14 PM
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Socialism and capitalism are a horse a piece within the framework of the state... You still have idiots thinking that we should make a laws to control anything they see as bad even if controlling it makes it worse.
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1/14/2011 12:56:50 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/13/2011 6:45:10 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 1/13/2011 2:18:13 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
Discuss . . .

It amazes me how much people don't know about socialism. Such as the myth that the part time bus boy makes as much as the doctor.

Does somebody think that
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1/14/2011 12:47:22 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/14/2011 12:56:50 AM, lewis20 wrote:
At 1/13/2011 6:45:10 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 1/13/2011 2:18:13 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
Discuss . . .

It amazes me how much people don't know about socialism. Such as the myth that the part time bus boy makes as much as the doctor.

Does somebody think that

"She's an annoying equality-Nazi in that instead of rewarding people based on what they deserve in terms of work, skill, etc. she balances the paychecks so that a lazy bum can earn as much as an experienced doctor."

Just up a few posts in this thread. You'll also hear it in other threads from some individuals.
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1/14/2011 12:53:33 PM
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At 1/13/2011 6:45:10 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 1/13/2011 2:18:13 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
Discuss . . .

It amazes me how much people don't know about socialism. Such as the myth that the part time bus boy makes as much as the doctor.

Yeah and it pisses me off when I see ignorant posts about such or people are all "omg your a socialist so you don't think you need to work for what you get"
j/s its annoying as hell and more than a little disappointing.
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1/14/2011 2:21:26 PM
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I thought that was a joke, didn't know anyone actually believed that.
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1/14/2011 11:46:06 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/14/2011 2:21:26 PM, lewis20 wrote:
I thought that was a joke, didn't know anyone actually believed that.

I don't know if they legitimately believe it to be true, but they believe that it is "close enough" (that person may have been using it as a joke).

But there are variations, that in socialism, there is no desire to work harder or better.
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1/17/2011 4:54:14 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/13/2011 6:40:43 PM, Atheism wrote:
At 1/13/2011 2:18:13 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
Discuss . . .
She's an annoying equality-Nazi in that instead of rewarding people based on what they deserve in terms of work, skill, etc. she balances the paychecks so that a lazy bum can earn as much as an experienced doctor.

Such a misguided response.
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1/20/2011 10:11:22 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/14/2011 11:46:06 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 1/14/2011 2:21:26 PM, lewis20 wrote:
I thought that was a joke, didn't know anyone actually believed that.

I don't know if they legitimately believe it to be true, but they believe that it is "close enough" (that person may have been using it as a joke).

I know alot of people do believe that.

But there are variations, that in socialism, there is no desire to work harder or better.

Yeah thats what my dad thinks socialism is all about. f-cking hate ignorance that capitalism encourages.
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1/20/2011 10:19:45 AM
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At 1/13/2011 6:40:43 PM, Atheism wrote:
At 1/13/2011 2:18:13 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
Discuss . . .
She's an annoying equality-Nazi in that instead of rewarding people based on what they deserve in terms of work, skill, etc. she balances the paychecks so that a lazy bum can earn as much as an experienced doctor.

Are you confusing socialism with communism?
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1/20/2011 10:27:30 AM
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At 1/20/2011 10:19:45 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 1/13/2011 6:40:43 PM, Atheism wrote:
At 1/13/2011 2:18:13 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
Discuss . . .
She's an annoying equality-Nazi in that instead of rewarding people based on what they deserve in terms of work, skill, etc. she balances the paychecks so that a lazy bum can earn as much as an experienced doctor.

Are you confusing socialism with communism?

It's not true in either.
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1/20/2011 10:34:04 AM
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At 1/20/2011 10:27:30 AM, OreEle wrote:
At 1/20/2011 10:19:45 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 1/13/2011 6:40:43 PM, Atheism wrote:
At 1/13/2011 2:18:13 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
Discuss . . .
She's an annoying equality-Nazi in that instead of rewarding people based on what they deserve in terms of work, skill, etc. she balances the paychecks so that a lazy bum can earn as much as an experienced doctor.

Are you confusing socialism with communism?

It's not true in either.

How so? Other than the fact that he figured in "earned," it seems like he is talking about a skewed idea of communism instead of a skewed idea of socialism.

"Communism is a sociopolitical movement that aims for a classless and stateless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production, free access to articles of consumption, and the end of wage labour and private property in the means of production and real estate.[1]

In Marxist theory, communism is a specific stage of historical development that inevitably emerges from the development of the productive forces that leads to a superabundance of material wealth, allowing for distribution based on need and social relations based on freely-associated individuals.[2][3]

The exact definition of communism varies, and it is often mistakenly used interchangeably with socialism." wikipedia
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1/20/2011 10:48:24 AM
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At 1/20/2011 10:34:04 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 1/20/2011 10:27:30 AM, OreEle wrote:
At 1/20/2011 10:19:45 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 1/13/2011 6:40:43 PM, Atheism wrote:
At 1/13/2011 2:18:13 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
Discuss . . .
She's an annoying equality-Nazi in that instead of rewarding people based on what they deserve in terms of work, skill, etc. she balances the paychecks so that a lazy bum can earn as much as an experienced doctor.

Are you confusing socialism with communism?

It's not true in either.

How so? Other than the fact that he figured in "earned," it seems like he is talking about a skewed idea of communism instead of a skewed idea of socialism.

"Communism is a sociopolitical movement that aims for a classless and stateless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production, free access to articles of consumption, and the end of wage labour and private property in the means of production and real estate.[1]

In Marxist theory, communism is a specific stage of historical development that inevitably emerges from the development of the productive forces that leads to a superabundance of material wealth, allowing for distribution based on need and social relations based on freely-associated individuals.[2][3]

The exact definition of communism varies, and it is often mistakenly used interchangeably with socialism." wikipedia

Most likely. Hellz I'd support that skewed idea of whateverthefuckitis above capitalism.
I just support socialism more because I am not an anarchist.
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1/20/2011 10:59:16 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/20/2011 10:34:04 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 1/20/2011 10:27:30 AM, OreEle wrote:
At 1/20/2011 10:19:45 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 1/13/2011 6:40:43 PM, Atheism wrote:
At 1/13/2011 2:18:13 PM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
Discuss . . .
She's an annoying equality-Nazi in that instead of rewarding people based on what they deserve in terms of work, skill, etc. she balances the paychecks so that a lazy bum can earn as much as an experienced doctor.

Are you confusing socialism with communism?

It's not true in either.

How so? Other than the fact that he figured in "earned," it seems like he is talking about a skewed idea of communism instead of a skewed idea of socialism.

"Communism is a sociopolitical movement that aims for a classless and stateless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production, free access to articles of consumption, and the end of wage labour and private property in the means of production and real estate.[1]

Common ownership and free access to articles of consumption does not mean that everyone receives the exact same "pay" (by "pay" I mean the value of goods consumed by the individual). Even though the theory does not explicitly say it, it requires rationing (since there is a set number of people and a set number of good produced, that means that there is a set number of good available per person), and every communistic system recognizes the need to ration differently for different people (such as the difference for a single person and a family of four).

I suppose it could be argued though, that the "lazy bum" could make as much or more then the doctor, if the doctor rejected much of the goods and chose to live a more humble life.


In Marxist theory, communism is a specific stage of historical development that inevitably emerges from the development of the productive forces that leads to a superabundance of material wealth, allowing for distribution based on need and social relations based on freely-associated individuals.[2][3]

Again, distribution based on need and social relations does not mean that everyone gets the exact same amount.


The exact definition of communism varies, and it is often mistakenly used interchangeably with socialism." wikipedia

agreed.
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1/24/2011 3:27:31 PM
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: ugly people should beat beautiful people ugly. simple! you'd be killing two birds with the one stone... women like violent men and you're making yourself more attractive, relatively. i met a blonde dude who was prettier than me not so long ago. he's not so pretty now! ha!
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4/13/2012 11:45:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/13/2012 11:34:03 PM, 16kadams wrote:
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You know in Skyrim they kill people who practice necromancy.
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4/13/2012 11:47:26 PM
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At 4/13/2012 11:45:32 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 4/13/2012 11:34:03 PM, 16kadams wrote:
bump

You know in Skyrim they kill people who practice necromancy.

lol
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4/14/2012 9:34:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/13/2012 11:47:26 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 4/13/2012 11:45:32 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 4/13/2012 11:34:03 PM, 16kadams wrote:
bump

You know in Skyrim they kill people who practice necromancy.

lol

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4/14/2012 9:38:21 PM
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At 4/13/2012 11:45:32 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 4/13/2012 11:34:03 PM, 16kadams wrote:
bump

You know in Skyrim they kill people who practice necromancy.

Well.....in Skyrim the kill you if your an Argonian for walking into their city....so....
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4/14/2012 9:41:32 PM
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At 4/14/2012 9:38:21 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/13/2012 11:45:32 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 4/13/2012 11:34:03 PM, 16kadams wrote:
bump

You know in Skyrim they kill people who practice necromancy.

Well.....in Skyrim the kill you if your an Argonian for walking into their city....so....

No, they simply throw you in the slum and force you to live without any hope of movement along the social ladder.
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4/14/2012 9:42:54 PM
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At 4/14/2012 9:41:32 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 4/14/2012 9:38:21 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/13/2012 11:45:32 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 4/13/2012 11:34:03 PM, 16kadams wrote:
bump

You know in Skyrim they kill people who practice necromancy.

Well.....in Skyrim the kill you if your an Argonian for walking into their city....so....

No, they simply throw you in the slum and force you to live without any hope of movement along the social ladder.

Ah yes....I forgot.

Reason #1 I joined the Imperials there. I visited Windhelm, met my Argonian wife, learned about the conditions.....and I was pleased(I'm Argonian, btw)
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4/14/2012 9:53:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/14/2012 9:42:54 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/14/2012 9:41:32 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 4/14/2012 9:38:21 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/13/2012 11:45:32 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 4/13/2012 11:34:03 PM, 16kadams wrote:
bump

You know in Skyrim they kill people who practice necromancy.

Well.....in Skyrim the kill you if your an Argonian for walking into their city....so....

No, they simply throw you in the slum and force you to live without any hope of movement along the social ladder.

Ah yes....I forgot.

Reason #1 I joined the Imperials there. I visited Windhelm, met my Argonian wife, learned about the conditions.....and I was pleased(I'm Argonian, btw)

I joined the Imperials too, only because I thought Ulfric was stupid to think he could take on the Thalamor bastards using only the Nords.
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4/14/2012 10:25:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/14/2012 10:13:07 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Socialism to Skyrim, the miracle of DDO

I was thinking the same thing
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