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My idea for govt healthcare

RonPaulConservative
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10/15/2016 4:00:31 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
Here's an idea:
Rather than Obama care, let's just pay outright for those who cannot afford healthcare, except this will not be funded by taxation. Rather the govt will run its own charity program which people will donate to enable to fund this.
TeaPatriot
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10/15/2016 4:07:14 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 4:00:31 PM, RonPaulConservative wrote:
Here's an idea:
Rather than Obama care, let's just pay outright for those who cannot afford healthcare, except this will not be funded by taxation. Rather the govt will run its own charity program which people will donate to enable to fund this.

Id just prefer the government stay out of the health care buisnesses

The reason the prices are so high is because of government mandates and fixed prices

Same thing with college price issues, take out the government, demand will go down therefore insurance will have to lower prices to get customers
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RonPaulConservative
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10/15/2016 4:19:43 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
The reason the prices are so high is because of government mandates and fixed prices

Same thing with college price issues, take out the government, demand will go down therefore insurance will have to lower prices to get customers

Yes- I mean charity,the govt just pays for it out of some charity that people give to.
TeaPatriot
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10/15/2016 4:56:38 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 4:19:43 PM, RonPaulConservative wrote:
The reason the prices are so high is because of government mandates and fixed prices

Same thing with college price issues, take out the government, demand will go down therefore insurance will have to lower prices to get customers

Yes- I mean charity,the govt just pays for it out of some charity that people give to.

The charities shouldnt even be govt run they should be privately run

Help should come from people who want to help not the government
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10/15/2016 8:41:00 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 4:00:31 PM, RonPaulConservative wrote:
Here's an idea:
Rather than Obama care, let's just pay outright for those who cannot afford healthcare, except this will not be funded by taxation. Rather the govt will run its own charity program which people will donate to enable to fund this.

Or, you can just have private charities do it...
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Genius_Intellect
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10/15/2016 11:35:13 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/15/2016 4:00:31 PM, RonPaulConservative wrote:
Here's an idea:
Rather than Obama care, let's just pay outright for those who cannot afford healthcare, except this will not be funded by taxation. Rather the govt will run its own charity program which people will donate to enable to fund this.

In the second debate, Hillary said something along the lines of: "if we could start over, we might do [healthcare] differently".

I actually agree with her. The US health system is f*cked through and through, and no amount of tweaking is going to fix it. It needs to be ripped apart and replaced with something different.
heriberto
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11/16/2016 1:36:23 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
I must say I find your plan for government healthcare similar to socialized healthcare but with a less trustworthy structure. Who will be in charge of handling these donations, would it be good to apply such an infrastructure in a capitalistic economy? I find interesting the response society would have to such idea and how donations would flow. With great respect, Heriberto.
Genius_Intellect
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11/16/2016 11:09:22 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 10/15/2016 4:00:31 PM, RonPaulConservative wrote:
Here's an idea:
Rather than Obama care, let's just pay outright for those who cannot afford healthcare, except this will not be funded by taxation. Rather the govt will run its own charity program which people will donate to enable to fund this.

Nobody would donate. Just shut up and pay your taxes like everybody else.
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11/17/2016 2:43:21 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
Sadly as a colony of the United State, Puerto Rico is gonna be out if founds by dicember 2017 for healthcare. We pay high taxes and contribute to the US a lot and we are gonna be out of money for healthcare by 2017?? Not fair.
Stwop12
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11/17/2016 3:20:07 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 10/15/2016 4:00:31 PM, RonPaulConservative wrote:
Here's an idea:
Rather than Obama care, let's just pay outright for those who cannot afford healthcare, except this will not be funded by taxation. Rather the govt will run its own charity program which people will donate to enable to fund this.

So you want a one payer healthcare system
RonPaulConservative
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11/17/2016 6:08:37 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/17/2016 2:43:21 AM, indigo17 wrote:
Sadly as a colony of the United State, Puerto Rico is gonna be out if founds by dicember 2017 for healthcare. We pay high taxes and contribute to the US a lot and we are gonna be out of money for healthcare by 2017?? Not fair.

i don't believe there is very much money in Peurto Rico with which to tax-n your country should probably file for stateship
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11/17/2016 6:09:29 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/16/2016 11:09:22 PM, Genius_Intellect wrote:
At 10/15/2016 4:00:31 PM, RonPaulConservative wrote:
Here's an idea:
Rather than Obama care, let's just pay outright for those who cannot afford healthcare, except this will not be funded by taxation. Rather the govt will run its own charity program which people will donate to enable to fund this.

Nobody would donate. Just shut up and pay your taxes like everybody else.

People donate to charitees all the time
Genius_Intellect
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11/17/2016 8:59:32 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/17/2016 6:09:29 AM, RonPaulConservative wrote:
At 11/16/2016 11:09:22 PM, Genius_Intellect wrote:
At 10/15/2016 4:00:31 PM, RonPaulConservative wrote:
Here's an idea:
Rather than Obama care, let's just pay outright for those who cannot afford healthcare, except this will not be funded by taxation. Rather the govt will run its own charity program which people will donate to enable to fund this.

Nobody would donate. Just shut up and pay your taxes like everybody else.

People donate to charitees all the time

Not on the scale required to replace Obamacare.
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11/18/2016 1:11:39 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
The problem is not how the healthcare is provided or who pays for it. Lots of models work around the world. What matters is whether the poor have any chance of paying for housing, food, healthcare, education etc etc. And the answer is no the equation is clearly broken for these people.

You don't have to tackle healthcare directly, provided you tackle their plight generally, through some combination of increased wages, tax breaks, jobs, and cheaper housing. If there arent improvements in these categories then government has to step in to subsidize health care to the appropriate degree for low incomes.