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TeaPatriot
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10/19/2016 11:10:32 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
Honestly how is raising taxes going to stimulate growth in this country. We have had one of the worst recoveries under obama and now hillary wants to be his 3rd term.

We need to lower dem taxes to get a good economic recovery
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10/21/2016 12:03:07 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/19/2016 11:10:32 PM, TeaPatriot wrote:
Honestly how is raising taxes going to stimulate growth in this country. We have had one of the worst recoveries under obama and now hillary wants to be his 3rd term.

We need to lower dem taxes to get a good economic recovery

The economy works best if taxes are zero and rich people spend all their wealth.
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10/21/2016 12:28:31 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/21/2016 12:03:07 AM, Genius_Intellect wrote:
At 10/19/2016 11:10:32 PM, TeaPatriot wrote:
Honestly how is raising taxes going to stimulate growth in this country. We have had one of the worst recoveries under obama and now hillary wants to be his 3rd term.

We need to lower dem taxes to get a good economic recovery

The economy works best if taxes are zero and rich people spend all their wealth.

We would still need taxes for police and military

But yeah your right, lower taxes better economy
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ColeTrain
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10/21/2016 1:48:50 AM
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At 10/19/2016 11:10:32 PM, TeaPatriot wrote:
Honestly how is raising taxes going to stimulate growth in this country. We have had one of the worst recoveries under obama and now hillary wants to be his 3rd term.

The argument is giving more money to the government allows them to do more to help people and build up services. Albeit, I generally disagree it is the best method to better the economic environment we have in the US. Simply put, the argument follows that the government is more qualified to redistribute funds, and should thus have more control/money to do so. Ergo, higher taxes.

We need to lower dem taxes to get a good economic recovery

I think this response gives no substantive alternative. The issue is certainly more complex than a one-liner and definitely has trade-offs either way. Though I agree with your opinion, a detailed approach might gather more discussion. :)
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10/21/2016 2:18:39 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/21/2016 12:28:31 AM, TeaPatriot wrote:
At 10/21/2016 12:03:07 AM, Genius_Intellect wrote:
At 10/19/2016 11:10:32 PM, TeaPatriot wrote:
Honestly how is raising taxes going to stimulate growth in this country. We have had one of the worst recoveries under obama and now hillary wants to be his 3rd term.

We need to lower dem taxes to get a good economic recovery

The economy works best if taxes are zero and rich people spend all their wealth.

We would still need taxes for police and military

The more important question is not if we need taxes, but to what extent are they necessary, and at what point do their benefits become obsolete?
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10/21/2016 10:44:04 AM
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At 10/21/2016 2:18:39 AM, ColeTrain wrote:
At 10/21/2016 12:28:31 AM, TeaPatriot wrote:
At 10/21/2016 12:03:07 AM, Genius_Intellect wrote:
At 10/19/2016 11:10:32 PM, TeaPatriot wrote:
Honestly how is raising taxes going to stimulate growth in this country. We have had one of the worst recoveries under obama and now hillary wants to be his 3rd term.

We need to lower dem taxes to get a good economic recovery

The economy works best if taxes are zero and rich people spend all their wealth.

We would still need taxes for police and military

The more important question is not if we need taxes, but to what extent are they necessary, and at what point do their benefits become obsolete?

Flat tax of 28 percent
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triangle.128k
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10/21/2016 7:18:19 PM
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At 10/19/2016 11:10:32 PM, TeaPatriot wrote:
Honestly how is raising taxes going to stimulate growth in this country. We have had one of the worst recoveries under obama and now hillary wants to be his 3rd term.

We need to lower dem taxes to get a good economic recovery

Lowering taxes itself is stupid, rather government spending and more privatization should take place if lower taxes are to be achieved.
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10/21/2016 11:09:42 PM
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At 10/21/2016 7:18:19 PM, triangle.128k wrote:
At 10/19/2016 11:10:32 PM, TeaPatriot wrote:
Honestly how is raising taxes going to stimulate growth in this country. We have had one of the worst recoveries under obama and now hillary wants to be his 3rd term.

We need to lower dem taxes to get a good economic recovery

Lowering taxes itself is stupid, rather government spending and more privatization should take place if lower taxes are to be achieved.

Then lets do dat
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10/21/2016 11:14:38 PM
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At 10/19/2016 11:10:32 PM, TeaPatriot wrote:
Honestly how is raising taxes going to stimulate growth in this country. We have had one of the worst recoveries under obama and now hillary wants to be his 3rd term.

We need to lower dem taxes to get a good economic recovery

Her tax plan is substantially idiotic.

She wants to not only continue Obama level economic programs, but to bolster them wherever she may find a "discrepancy". This equates to larger stimulus packages and more regulations in order to "help" those that are in trouble, which we know to be a farce as the stimulus packages only go to help the rich at the expense of everyone else that must pay for them via increased taxes, borrowing, or inflationary policies.
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10/21/2016 11:18:50 PM
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At 10/21/2016 11:14:38 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 10/19/2016 11:10:32 PM, TeaPatriot wrote:
Honestly how is raising taxes going to stimulate growth in this country. We have had one of the worst recoveries under obama and now hillary wants to be his 3rd term.

We need to lower dem taxes to get a good economic recovery

Her tax plan is substantially idiotic.

She wants to not only continue Obama level economic programs, but to bolster them wherever she may find a "discrepancy". This equates to larger stimulus packages and more regulations in order to "help" those that are in trouble, which we know to be a farce as the stimulus packages only go to help the rich at the expense of everyone else that must pay for them via increased taxes, borrowing, or inflationary policies.

Why is a stimulus package bad. Not supporting it, judt asking
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10/21/2016 11:24:38 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/21/2016 11:18:50 PM, TeaPatriot wrote:
At 10/21/2016 11:14:38 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 10/19/2016 11:10:32 PM, TeaPatriot wrote:
Honestly how is raising taxes going to stimulate growth in this country. We have had one of the worst recoveries under obama and now hillary wants to be his 3rd term.

We need to lower dem taxes to get a good economic recovery

Her tax plan is substantially idiotic.

She wants to not only continue Obama level economic programs, but to bolster them wherever she may find a "discrepancy". This equates to larger stimulus packages and more regulations in order to "help" those that are in trouble, which we know to be a farce as the stimulus packages only go to help the rich at the expense of everyone else that must pay for them via increased taxes, borrowing, or inflationary policies.

Why is a stimulus package bad. Not supporting it, judt asking

Because it puts off problems to a few years after the package is implemented. In the end, it piles up debt and creates a large bubble when everything is bought on credit.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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10/21/2016 11:33:10 PM
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At 10/21/2016 11:24:38 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 10/21/2016 11:18:50 PM, TeaPatriot wrote:
At 10/21/2016 11:14:38 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 10/19/2016 11:10:32 PM, TeaPatriot wrote:
Honestly how is raising taxes going to stimulate growth in this country. We have had one of the worst recoveries under obama and now hillary wants to be his 3rd term.

We need to lower dem taxes to get a good economic recovery

Her tax plan is substantially idiotic.
I
She wants to not only continue Obama level economic programs, but to bolster them wherever she may find a "discrepancy". This equates to larger stimulus packages and more regulations in order to "help" those that are in trouble, which we know to be a farce as the stimulus packages only go to help the rich at the expense of everyone else that must pay for them via increased taxes, borrowing, or inflationary policies.

Why is a stimulus package bad. Not supporting it, judt asking

Because it puts off problems to a few years after the package is implemented. In the end, it piles up debt and creates a large bubble when everything is bought on credit.

So wr should increase interest rates
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10/21/2016 11:34:41 PM
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At 10/21/2016 11:33:10 PM, TeaPatriot wrote:
At 10/21/2016 11:24:38 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 10/21/2016 11:18:50 PM, TeaPatriot wrote:
At 10/21/2016 11:14:38 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 10/19/2016 11:10:32 PM, TeaPatriot wrote:
Honestly how is raising taxes going to stimulate growth in this country. We have had one of the worst recoveries under obama and now hillary wants to be his 3rd term.

We need to lower dem taxes to get a good economic recovery

Her tax plan is substantially idiotic.
I
She wants to not only continue Obama level economic programs, but to bolster them wherever she may find a "discrepancy". This equates to larger stimulus packages and more regulations in order to "help" those that are in trouble, which we know to be a farce as the stimulus packages only go to help the rich at the expense of everyone else that must pay for them via increased taxes, borrowing, or inflationary policies.

Why is a stimulus package bad. Not supporting it, judt asking

Because it puts off problems to a few years after the package is implemented. In the end, it piles up debt and creates a large bubble when everything is bought on credit.

So wr should increase interest rates

Increasing interest rates will hurt us in the short term but it's MUCH safer in the long run.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.
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10/23/2016 12:27:55 PM
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I am here to learn so please bear with me. But is the average US citizen so against' taxes when there are countries like Sweden is northern Europe where they have huge tax rates yet they are economically strong countries. Like I said I am here to learn, since I am a business student, so I may be wrong.
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10/23/2016 7:23:14 PM
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At 10/23/2016 12:27:55 PM, Javier-Riefkohl wrote:
I am here to learn so please bear with me. But is the average US citizen so against' taxes when there are countries like Sweden is northern Europe where they have huge tax rates yet they are economically strong countries. Like I said I am here to learn, since I am a business student, so I may be wrong.

Northern European nations are not strong economies, they are simply stable economies, but that's due to the fact that they have some way of keeping their economy running - the Swedish recycle the wealth they created years ago due to their free market system (they were the 3rd richest nation at one point), while nations like Denmark sell oil for money.

Other than that, in a few decades, their economies will fail, as they are stagnant and they try to stimulate far too much.
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. - Friedman

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. -Friedman

Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. - Friedman

Society will never be free until the last Democrat is strangled with the entrails of the last Communist.