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7/3/2011 10:08:08 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Please name the worst, or most dreadful, book (novel, anthology of poems, short stories, philosophical treatises, religious books, and so on) that you have read so far. Remember, this is all a matter of personal taste and the book that you may name may actually be one of another member's favorites, or vice versa. In addition, please give us the reason why you disliked it so much...

Let me start. The first (and there are many) worst book that I read was Frankenstein by Mary Shelley, a novel that I read a few years ago. It is divided into narratives that are narrated by a sea-captain, Victor, and the monster, and is a pretty poor narrative. Shelley did not know how to build suspense or how to characterize her characters three-dimensionally. While the novel does question many Romantic ideals, it nevertheless fails to prove an adequate answer for such ideals in the form of a coherent narrative.
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7/3/2011 10:15:45 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/3/2011 10:11:40 AM, darkkermit wrote:
The Scarlet Letter. Are we really expected to feel sorry for that slut?

I take it that you really disliked that novel. Well, while I was reading it, I was rather troubled by the fact that there was a forty-page expository introduction in the beginning of the novel. The rest was so dense with symbolism, with the character of the Pearl, the figure of the red A, the priest, Chillingworth, and so on. But, looking back on it, I have to say, it does deserve its place as a great American novel. [Though I preferred The House of the Seven Gables]
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7/3/2011 10:18:34 AM
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Catcher In The Rye and The Twilight series.
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7/3/2011 10:21:24 AM
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At 7/3/2011 10:18:34 AM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
Catcher In The Rye and The Twilight series.

I asked for a reason....Please don't just name the book(s). I'm interested to see the reason behind your choices.
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7/3/2011 10:28:05 AM
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At 7/3/2011 10:21:24 AM, Man-is-good wrote:
At 7/3/2011 10:18:34 AM, SuperRobotWars wrote:
Catcher In The Rye and The Twilight series.

I asked for a reason....Please don't just name the book(s). I'm interested to see the reason behind your choices.

Sorry.

Catcher In The Rye has this incredibly stuck up @$$ of an main character, he always assumes himself to be correct, refuses to follow any instructions, and considers anyone who disagrees with him to be an idiot [see J_C for reference behavior].

The Twilight series is written horribly and makes very little sense, the characters are all @$$es and made me want to burn all of the books [which I did].
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: At 12/6/2011 2:21:41 PM, badger wrote:
: ugly people should beat beautiful people ugly. simple! you'd be killing two birds with the one stone... women like violent men and you're making yourself more attractive, relatively. i met a blonde dude who was prettier than me not so long ago. he's not so pretty now! ha!
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: ...and well, he wasn't really prettier than me. he just had nice hair.
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7/3/2011 10:30:50 AM
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Walden

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7/3/2011 10:36:18 AM
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At 7/3/2011 10:08:08 AM, Man-is-good wrote:

Let me start. The first (and there are many) worst book that I read was Frankenstein by Mary Shelley, a novel that I read a few years ago. It is divided into narratives that are narrated by a sea-captain, Victor, and the monster, and is a pretty poor narrative. Shelley did not know how to build suspense or how to characterize her characters three-dimensionally. While the novel does question many Romantic ideals, it nevertheless fails to prove an adequate answer for such ideals in the form of a coherent narrative.

I'd agree with part of that.

My own one would be Fatherland by Robert Harris. It is not a terrible book as such, it just reads like a generic hollywood film. The same plot, the same characters could be transplanted to a thousand settings, it comes across as writing by numbers. The book is cowardly, in that the central German character is made politically indifferent and ignorant to a degree that is totally unrealistic. It also contains massive historical inaccuracies, fails to justify in any sense how Germany won the war, and is based on the assumption that only 12 people in Germany knew about the holocaust and that everyone else would be upset if they found out about it.
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7/3/2011 10:38:48 AM
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Oh and 120 Days of Sodom. The introductory bits are good, the rest reads like it was written by an 'edgy' 12 year old boy.
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7/3/2011 10:40:43 AM
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At 7/3/2011 10:11:40 AM, darkkermit wrote:
The Scarlet Letter. Are we really expected to feel sorry for that slut?:

Heh. :)

I believe the proper term for her time was "slag." :)
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7/3/2011 10:42:53 AM
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Atlas Shrugged.

The philosophy was interesting but she could have used a third of the words to say it.

War and Peace is only 2/3 as long.

Yes.
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7/3/2011 12:28:29 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/3/2011 10:42:53 AM, Minuteman wrote:
Atlas Shrugged.

The philosophy was interesting but she could have used a third of the words to say it.

She did so in nonfiction (most of her nonfiction books are fairly thin). Atlas Shrugged's job was to be a story, which conflicted with being an efficient means of philosophical expression unless you wanted both the philosophy and the story.
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7/3/2011 12:53:07 PM
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At 7/3/2011 12:28:29 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 7/3/2011 10:42:53 AM, Minuteman wrote:
Atlas Shrugged.

The philosophy was interesting but she could have used a third of the words to say it.

She did so in nonfiction (most of her nonfiction books are fairly thin). Atlas Shrugged's job was to be a story, which conflicted with being an efficient means of philosophical expression unless you wanted both the philosophy and the story.

She could have just written a manifesto instead
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7/3/2011 1:11:09 PM
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The Great Gatsby. Fitzgerald's focus on metaphorical imagery detracts from any elements of good storytelling (characters, rising action, etc.) that would have made the book enjoyable.
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7/4/2011 12:52:26 AM
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The Fountainhead and the twilight series.

The Fountainhead was too long, the story dragged around, the plot was scattered at places, and though the final idea she wanted to convey did pass through but it was a struggle for me to complete it.

The Twilight series: Bella was the weakest link in the novel, too pathetically desperate and stupid. I don't even want to write anything about it since the topic has been thoroughly been discussed throughout the interwebs. Ending note: I only read it since it was being compared to Harry Potter and felt totally cheated after the ordeal.
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7/4/2011 2:55:31 AM
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At 7/3/2011 12:53:07 PM, Minuteman wrote:
At 7/3/2011 12:28:29 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 7/3/2011 10:42:53 AM, Minuteman wrote:
Atlas Shrugged.

The philosophy was interesting but she could have used a third of the words to say it.

She did so in nonfiction (most of her nonfiction books are fairly thin). Atlas Shrugged's job was to be a story, which conflicted with being an efficient means of philosophical expression unless you wanted both the philosophy and the story.

She could have just written a manifesto instead

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The Great Gatsby.
Although I'm not confident enough in my memory to decide on a "Worst," I ****ing hated The Great Gatsby.
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7/4/2011 3:55:49 AM
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i didn't really like 1984 all that much.
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7/4/2011 3:57:35 AM
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At 7/4/2011 3:55:49 AM, el-badgero wrote:
i didn't really like 1984 all that much.

it was either that or one of the harry potters pretty much lol.
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7/4/2011 4:16:58 AM
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At 7/4/2011 3:55:49 AM, el-badgero wrote:
i didn't really like 1984 all that much.

I was pretty depressed by the end of 1984.
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7/4/2011 6:23:43 AM
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At 7/4/2011 4:25:59 AM, el-badgero wrote:
why?

It is pretty god damn bleak!
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/4/2011 6:31:32 AM
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it was always coming though. if i enjoyed any bit of it, it was finishing it.
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edit: nah, i'm jealous... God's an eejit definitely though!
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7/4/2011 6:36:03 AM
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At 7/4/2011 6:31:32 AM, el-badgero wrote:
it was always coming though. if i enjoyed any bit of it, it was finishing it.

Well I liked it anyway.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/4/2011 6:40:43 AM
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you do seem the sort. animal farm was cool. in not being so long anyway. and using animals!
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7/4/2011 6:41:24 AM
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Damn, people be ragging on some great books here.

In my opinion a novel can be severely flawed and still be a masterpiece.

Haven't read all of the books in this thread but must speak out in defense of a few here.

Frankenstein is fvcking awesome, yes some of the characters (Elizabeth, all of Victor's family) are pretty wooden and a lot of the issues raised aren't resolved. The core narrative, some of the description, the atmosphere, the dynamic between the creator and monster and the overall inventiveness and execution are brilliant. Particularly effective is how the reader's sympathies re encouraged to shift between Victor and the creature throughout. Bear in mind this was a very young woman's first novel and no-one had really come up with these ideas before. This is gothic science fiction right there.

1984 is genius, although I hate the way a lot of right wingers view it as a case against socialism when Orwell was in fact far more of a raving socialist than me or than almost any socialist leader in the modern world. It does get really bogged down and hard to read in the middle bit with all the geo-politics when the reader just wants to stay with Winston's story, but seriously awesome inventiveness and incredibly well written for the most part.

Catcher in the Rye is cool too thouh not on the same level as the two Engish books above. It's not really about anything, it's just a non-eventful rite of passage tale, but yeah really charming and pretty entertaining stuff I think.
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7/4/2011 6:44:57 AM
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At 7/4/2011 6:43:00 AM, feverish wrote:
At 7/3/2011 10:08:08 AM, Man-is-good wrote:
Shelley did not know how to build suspense.

We can't have been reading the same book.

I want to reanimate dead flesh... oh wait I just did... wow... that required no build up.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/4/2011 8:50:43 AM
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At 7/4/2011 6:44:57 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:

I want to reanimate dead flesh... oh wait I just did... wow... that required no build up.

Cereb has obviously been reading the Ladybird books children's version of Frankenstein :)

Good to have you back dude.