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Lookingatissues
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1/24/2015 7:50:58 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
America's youth adults have turned against America
Education in America's public educational institutions is no longer thought of as it once was in the countries earliest days. In America's beginnings proper instruction was considered by the countries founders to be the basis for .young students which would prepare them to later become good citizens and productive adults but educational institutions have long since became a Meca for Anti-American instructions.
The early American colonies understood the ramifications and importance of placing instructors of known character and known ideologies in charge of their young people so that they would under their tutelage develop into good adult citizens capable of taking up their responsibilities.
What has been allowed to happen though over time is that America's adults have relinquished their duties as parents to insure that those who were placed in the most vital role of instructors of the nations youth be those kinds of instructors that had pride in being American and were those who loved their country and believed in the countries bright future.
Instead we now have instructors of America's young people in our educational institutions who daily indoctrinate them with doubts about the decency and goodness of their country and now instill only a loathing and hatred for their country. Hitler once spoke of the importance of education in shaping the youth of Germany and its future, Hitler said in a speech on November 6, 1933,"When an opponent declares, "I will not come over to your side," calmly say, "Your child belongs to us already. . . . What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community."" And on May 1, 1937, [Hitler] declared, "This new Reich will give its youth to no one, but will itself take youth and give to youth its own education and its own upbringing."
"Why.... have..... America's youth adults have turned against America"
"In most states, the liberal education establishment enjoys total control over the state's board of education, department of education, and curriculum committees..." Author unknown
Isn't it long past time that America's citizens take back their rightful responsibilities and duties of selecting what is taught in America's educational institutions as well as determining those who are to be allowed daily access our youth to insure that America's young aren't indoctrinated with hate and loathing for their country.
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1/25/2015 5:17:45 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
So what you're saying is basically, "Oh no we don't want them indoctrinated by evil socialists, we just want people of our ideology to instill our totally correct values into their heads so they grow up with an unwavering loyalty to their superiors (us)."

I get that you're against liberal control of the education system, but they generally encourage more discussion and sharing of ideas than conservative teachers (from my personal experience, and that of my friends/family, I haven't looked up stats so if you have any refuting this I'd be happy to see them). If your ideas really were correct, they'd be able to stand up against the discussions that students have in class. That, however, is not happening.

I'm not sure if you'd prefer that we go back to the good ole days when caning was allowed, or if you want to ban discussion of ideas in a place of learning, or what exactly it is you're getting at. I'd expect that you would want a generation of people who could think independently of media indoctrination, and you would therefore want the sort of brainstorming of ideas that accompanies liberal education, but that doesn't seem to be the case. You instead want totally obedient youth who haven't been taught how to even entertain a different perspective, which is a skill they develop when the media is screaming, "AMERICAAMERICAAMERICA" but the schools teach them to consider the information they get.

You claim to want a generation of competent adults, but you don't want to teach them how to think and communicate... which implies that you just want to have a bunch of mindless FOX slaves running around...

I'm not going to go into my anti-nationalism thing, if you want to argue over that it can be saved for later.
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1/25/2015 10:59:26 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
You posted,"So what you're saying is basically, "Oh no we don't want them indoctrinated by evil socialists, we just want people of our ideology ..." Then teaching Americans about America and its history in a anti-American light is ok with you.
But in your view the history of communism and socialism is to be promoted as noble and worthy of praise and promoting in educational institutions to the younh students, but Christian religion along with patriotism and pride and love of our countryAmerica is to be censored from education but secularism taught in educational institutions is acceptable.
Teachers in America's public schools and Universities are in a position of dominance over those they are instructing and thus are in a position to influence the students ideologies through the subtle daily presentation of their personal views. Instructors such as Ward Churchill, Elizabeth Warren Bill Ayers, former weather man radicalism are common and not the exception that are found in public schools and Universities.
To paraphrase Bill Ayers, statement said something to the effect that his position as professor, is just carrying on radicalism by other means"
These instructors, teachers and professors, of young students are instructing future teachers and professors so their influence on their present students is then extended to the students under these new instructors tutelage. In a book authored by David Horowitz titled," he Professors: The 101 most dangerous Professors he lists 101 of these professors teaching in America's Universities.
A quote from David Horowitz's book about the duties of educators, he wrote," In a democracy, educators are expected to teach students how to think-not what to think..." Someone should see that they don't bring their personal prejudices and views into the class room, indoctrination of students isn't what they're paid to do.
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2/1/2015 9:37:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/24/2015 7:50:58 PM, Lookingatissues wrote:
America's youth adults have turned against America
Education in America's public educational institutions is no longer thought of as it once was in the countries earliest days. In America's beginnings proper instruction was considered by the countries founders to be the basis for .young students which would prepare them to later become good citizens and productive adults but educational institutions have long since became a Meca for Anti-American instructions.
The early American colonies understood the ramifications and importance of placing instructors of known character and known ideologies in charge of their young people so that they would under their tutelage develop into good adult citizens capable of taking up their responsibilities.
What has been allowed to happen though over time is that America's adults have relinquished their duties as parents to insure that those who were placed in the most vital role of instructors of the nations youth be those kinds of instructors that had pride in being American and were those who loved their country and believed in the countries bright future.
Instead we now have instructors of America's young people in our educational institutions who daily indoctrinate them with doubts about the decency and goodness of their country and now instill only a loathing and hatred for their country. Hitler once spoke of the importance of education in shaping the youth of Germany and its future, Hitler said in a speech on November 6, 1933,"When an opponent declares, "I will not come over to your side," calmly say, "Your child belongs to us already. . . . What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community."" And on May 1, 1937, [Hitler] declared, "This new Reich will give its youth to no one, but will itself take youth and give to youth its own education and its own upbringing."
"Why.... have..... America's youth adults have turned against America"
"In most states, the liberal education establishment enjoys total control over the state's board of education, department of education, and curriculum committees..." Author unknown
Isn't it long past time that America's citizens take back their rightful responsibilities and duties of selecting what is taught in America's educational institutions as well as determining those who are to be allowed daily access our youth to insure that America's young aren't indoctrinated with hate and loathing for their country.

I agree. Leftist professors and teachers are teaching their kids to hate America. They teach them that America is evil for "stealing land from the Natives" and "taking Mexico's land". I've been studying these claims and want to open up some discussion on it soon. It is the false progressive way of teaching kids to loath their country and feel sorry for their enemies.
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2/25/2015 4:50:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
A quote from David Horowitz's book about the duties of educators, he wrote," In a democracy, educators are expected to teach students how to think-not what to think..." Someone should see that they don't bring their personal prejudices and views into the class room, indoctrination of students isn't what they're paid to do.

Yes, that is exactly what they are paid to do and if they did what you want they would be going against it. Changing one radical side (if it really exists) for the other changes only what kind of wrong they are teaching. There are a few other things to consider like .... Who said everything American's have done was good? Are you serious? It's a good thing that you brought up Hitler as an example because that kind of education was exactly the one that made thousands think that killing Jews and hating blacks was ok. Everything that Germany does is ok because we are superior. None of those kids were born hating Jews or justifying killing; they were subtly thought day to day by the teachers, parents and the government. Kids need to learn both sides of the story in order to make their own minds and analyze what they see and hear, not just following ideas like sheep. Also, you have to get with the times and no matter how much you try to limit a kids information these days it is impossible to keep them from learning whatever they want to learn.