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8/1/2010 10:19:05 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I just realized something. Almost every active member on DDO that attends college, attends a public school. Discuss.

Publics:
Phil - University of Northern Colorado
JBlake - WVU
askbob - Penn State
Cody - U of Oklahoma
Vi_Veri - Northern Illinois
theLwerd - Rutgers
SportsGuru - Texas Tech
s0m31john - U of Florida
alto2osu - Oregon State
KRFournier - Cal State Sacramento
TheSkeptic - Cal State something or other
mattrodstrom - CUNY something or other
Ragnar_Rahl - community college ---> Western Washington U
omelet - some North Carolina community college
Insert - some Canadian public college
belle - some California public college
Geo - some Nevada public college
Freeman - probably attends UCLA, though he's never said

Privates:
J.Kenyon - Kalamazoo
LeafRod - Stanford
InquireTruth - George Fox U
pcp - some private college in Japan
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8/1/2010 11:48:20 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/1/2010 11:22:17 PM, JustCallMeTarzan wrote:
I'm now at CU Boulder for Law.

What'd you get on your LSAT? I'm curious.

At 8/1/2010 11:23:05 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
If I end up going back to New Jersey with a certain somebody I may attend Rutgers with him.

Rutgers is one of the tougher public colleges in the country to get into, so hopefully you have good grades and at least an above average SAT score.
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8/1/2010 11:49:33 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/1/2010 11:48:20 PM, Nags wrote:
At 8/1/2010 11:22:17 PM, JustCallMeTarzan wrote:
I'm now at CU Boulder for Law.

What'd you get on your LSAT? I'm curious.

At 8/1/2010 11:23:05 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
If I end up going back to New Jersey with a certain somebody I may attend Rutgers with him.

Rutgers is one of the tougher public colleges in the country to get into, so hopefully you have good grades and at least an above average SAT score.

Yea, I'm not sure how the admission requirements would be like for Canadians. Probably not much different.
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8/2/2010 12:02:11 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
I'll be attending Davenport University in the fall. That's a private college.
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8/2/2010 12:20:34 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/2/2010 12:12:46 AM, TheSkeptic wrote:
CSULA is one out of two colleges that have the type of program I'm involved in - the other is in Washington I think.

Probably would have been smarter of you to go to a top prep school (like Philips Academy) and then go to an Ivy or Stanford, rather than getting a quick BA from a Cal State. At least if you wanna be a college professor.
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8/2/2010 4:52:48 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
if you wanna front the money for my transfer to a private school i would be down :P
evidently i only come to ddo to avoid doing homework...
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8/2/2010 7:36:18 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/1/2010 11:48:20 PM, Nags wrote:
At 8/1/2010 11:22:17 PM, JustCallMeTarzan wrote:
I'm now at CU Boulder for Law.

What'd you get on your LSAT? I'm curious.

At 8/1/2010 11:23:05 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
If I end up going back to New Jersey with a certain somebody I may attend Rutgers with him.

Rutgers is one of the tougher public colleges in the country to get into, so hopefully you have good grades and at least an above average SAT score.

lol Rutgers is not that hard at all to get into.
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8/2/2010 7:37:26 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Not everyone has money to attend a private school, or was active enough in high school to attend one.
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8/2/2010 7:55:47 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
We aren't all chumps who pay twice. (The taxes you'll pay later are paying a second time if your first was private. Since you can't avoid that payment, avoid the first one if you aren't getting a genuine quality difference. And usually, you aren't.)
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8/2/2010 8:00:42 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/2/2010 7:36:18 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
lol Rutgers is not that hard at all to get into.

What do you know about it...? Do YOU think you are guaranteed to get into Rutgers when you apply for grad school? Anyhoot regardless of admissions, the reason RU is so reputable is because of the academics (mostly advanced research facilities and prestigious professors). The work is pretty tough and that's why so many people we know got kicked out lol.

Anyway for the record, I chose to go to public school over private school (I love RU btw), and because I did not live in NJ, I did not pay public school prices. I paid out of state tuition meaning with room and board it totaled about $35 k a year or something crazy like that (which is just as expensive as a private school). I can see why public school is a preferential option for those staying in-state in terms of finances.

Also, have you noticed that out of the private schools you mentioned, none of them are ALL THAT impressive? Kalamazoo College is tiny and so is George Fox (which is a religious school to boot). Being private doesn't necessarily mean better. At all. It doesn't even mean more reputable or impressive. You forgot to mention that Askbob attends one of the other best public colleges in the nation - Penn State. Penn State is a far better school than the private ones mentioned above, and many others.

If I could do it all over again, I'd attend freshman year in the dorms at RU (haha just because it was so fun and the best experience ever) - then live at home and go to community college for a few years in between. I'd graduate from RU (but continue to live at home). The money for college is just astronomical, and no, most people don't have their parents supporting them. People spend so many years paying back their debt from college.

But FYI - Attending a private school doesn't necessarily drastically increase your chances in terms of success in the job market or anything like that either. So quite frankly I'm just kind of baffled and wondering what point the OP is trying to make (other than sound like a prestigiious know-it-all snob). Meh, I used to think this way when I was in HS too, but you live and learn. In the end it's about who you know and the strings you can pull for your particular field. Paying so much money for college is so not worth it UNLESS you're gonna go someplace where the name alone will get you far (like Princeton, etc.).
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8/2/2010 8:09:40 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Does attending a private v. Public college really matter in terms of education? One just costs a ton more than the other. (Just wondering - I'm not in college or at the point of even applying yet.)
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8/2/2010 8:10:07 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/2/2010 8:00:42 AM, theLwerd wrote:
At 8/2/2010 7:36:18 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
lol Rutgers is not that hard at all to get into.

What do you know about it...? Do YOU think you are guaranteed to get into Rutgers when you apply for grad school? Anyhoot regardless of admissions, the reason RU is so reputable is because of the academics (mostly advanced research facilities and prestigious professors). The work is pretty tough and that's why so many people we know got kicked out lol.

Anyway for the record, I chose to go to public school over private school (I love RU btw), and because I did not live in NJ, I did not pay public school prices. I paid out of state tuition meaning with room and board it totaled about $35 k a year or something crazy like that (which is just as expensive as a private school). I can see why public school is a preferential option for those staying in-state in terms of finances.

Also, have you noticed that out of the private schools you mentioned, none of them are ALL THAT impressive? Kalamazoo College is tiny and so is George Fox (which is a religious school to boot). Being private doesn't necessarily mean better. At all. It doesn't even mean more reputable or impressive. You forgot to mention that Askbob attends one of the other best public colleges in the nation - Penn State. Penn State is a far better school than the private ones mentioned above, and many others.

If I could do it all over again, I'd attend freshman year in the dorms at RU (haha just because it was so fun and the best experience ever) - then live at home and go to community college for a few years in between. I'd graduate from RU (but continue to live at home). The money for college is just astronomical, and no, most people don't have their parents supporting them. People spend so many years paying back their debt from college.

But FYI - Attending a private school doesn't necessarily drastically increase your chances in terms of success in the job market or anything like that either. So quite frankly I'm just kind of baffled and wondering what point the OP is trying to make (other than sound like a prestigiious know-it-all snob). Meh, I used to think this way when I was in HS too, but you live and learn. In the end it's about who you know and the strings you can pull for your particular field. Paying so much money for college is so not worth it UNLESS you're gonna go someplace where the name alone will get you far (like Princeton, etc.).

I've also heard from many people that community college could be the way to go. Inexpensive, you don't have to move, and you can take a year off in between if you feel like it. Some have told me that you can get the same out of it that you could at many four-year colleges.
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8/2/2010 8:18:13 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/2/2010 8:09:40 AM, CrysisPillar wrote:
Does attending a private v. Public college really matter in terms of education? One just costs a ton more than the other. (Just wondering - I'm not in college or at the point of even applying yet.)

Totally depends on the college. There are some public schools I'd never consider going to (for instance, New York has lots of SUNYs - State Universitys of New York and none of them appeal to me whatsoever either in academics or reputation) ... but on the other hand, some public schools are really good and despite what Nags says far better than even some (most) private, like the University of Michigan (!!) , University of Florida (where someonejohn goes, I think) Penn State, etc.
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8/2/2010 8:18:24 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/2/2010 8:00:42 AM, theLwerd wrote:
At 8/2/2010 7:36:18 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
lol Rutgers is not that hard at all to get into.

What do you know about it...? Do YOU think you are guaranteed to get into Rutgers when you apply for grad school?

No, here's the more pressing question I guess - do YOU think I'm capable of getting into Rutgers for Grad School?

And for the record, admission into Grad School and Undergrad School are VERY different.
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8/2/2010 8:20:01 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Can someone explain to the backward Irishman the difference between a private and public college?
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8/2/2010 8:20:55 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/2/2010 8:20:01 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Can someone explain to the backward Irishman the difference between a private and public college?

One is privately funded, one is publicly funded.
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8/2/2010 8:21:00 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/2/2010 8:20:01 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Can someone explain to the backward Irishman the difference between a private and public college?

Isn't it obvious? Public = some funding by the state.
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8/2/2010 8:22:18 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/2/2010 8:20:55 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
At 8/2/2010 8:20:01 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Can someone explain to the backward Irishman the difference between a private and public college?

One is privately funded, one is publicly funded.

At 8/2/2010 8:21:00 AM, theLwerd wrote:
At 8/2/2010 8:20:01 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Can someone explain to the backward Irishman the difference between a private and public college?

Isn't it obvious? Public = some funding by the state.

Oh. Well, I don't think there's a huge distinction between them here being in Evil Socialist Europe and all.
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8/2/2010 8:25:13 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/2/2010 8:18:24 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
No, here's the more pressing question I guess - do YOU think I'm capable of getting into Rutgers for Grad School?

Duh, yes.

And for the record, admission into Grad School and Undergrad School are VERY different.

Ya don't say...

Either way, RU is a good school despite admission requirements. I don't remember what they are... FYI how could I forget the great state schools of UC BERKELEY and University of Virginia?
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8/2/2010 8:27:59 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Nobody said Rutgers is a bad or less than amazing school.
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8/2/2010 8:31:43 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 8/2/2010 8:27:59 AM, Vi_Veri wrote:
Nobody said Rutgers is a bad or less than amazing school.

You said it's easy to get into, and I guess it was for me, but apparently recent applicants are having a tougher time. I dunno. The stats say they accept 55% of applicants and that 40% of students were in the top 10% of their class (they didn't report average GPAs). Came across this, but dunno how reliable it is.

http://answers.yahoo.com...
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8/2/2010 8:35:36 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Rutgers:

Selectivity (% of Applicants Admitted):56%
Yield (% Accepted that Enroll):35%

Percent of entering freshmen with the following SAT and ACT scores:
Score Range SAT Critical Reading/ SAT Math
700-800 9% / 17% —
600-699 33% / 41% —
500-599 48% / 35% —
400-499 10% / 6% —
300-399 0% / 0% —
200-299 0% / 0% —
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