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Rosalie
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2/3/2016 9:22:38 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
This is a topic that has always interested me. I like to hear more thoughts on what type of schooling you believe is more sufficient, or where you would place your child.

Personally, I believe homeschooling is a horrible idea. There is no social-interactions with other kids. Kids need to simply learn proper communication skills to prep them for the real world, and the workplace. Not only that, but not all parents are fully equitable to teach their children certain subjects.

Pros of Public School:
"Learning within a group setting
"Extra-curricular activity availability
"More curriculum opportunities
"Diverse social education

Cons of Public School:
"High student-teacher ratio
"Less independence (scheduled learning)
"School chooses curriculum
"Peers based on area instead of choice

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Pros of Home School

"Free to choose curriculum
"Free to choose schedule
"Small teacher to student ratio
"Teaches students to be independent in their learning choices

Cons of Home School
"Usually more expensive than public school
"Teachers are not always qualified to teach all subjects
"It"s harder to provide social interaction
"Colleges sometimes have stricter admission policies concerning homeschooled students.

Please feel free to share your thoughts.
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2/3/2016 11:43:07 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
Another thing to note is that the policies that are enforced/exist for homeschooling are much laxer than public schooling, making it so that someone that is in 12th grade in homsechooling might only be as advanced as an 8th or 9th grader in public.

Furthermore, when the parent has certain biases they can teach the kid(s) in a way that is actually detrimental to learning.
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2/3/2016 11:49:18 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
It depends on how well a parent can teach.
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2/4/2016 12:09:19 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/3/2016 11:43:07 PM, SNP1 wrote:
Another thing to note is that the policies that are enforced/exist for homeschooling are much laxer than public schooling, making it so that someone that is in 12th grade in homsechooling might only be as advanced as an 8th or 9th grader in public.

Or vice versa. I was homeschooled until the 8th Grade, but I had already taken college-level classes at home. And my mom didn't really teach me anyway; I had to learn for myself.

Furthermore, when the parent has certain biases they can teach the kid(s) in a way that is actually detrimental to learning.

This is true, although there is also great bias in the public schools as well. This bias comes from the students rather than the teachers, though.
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2/4/2016 12:10:52 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/3/2016 11:49:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
It depends on how well a parent can teach.

My mother didn't do so hot at teaching. I had to do my work on my own, but I excel in public school because of what I taught myself. The ability for a parent to teach does not always have an effect on the outcome of a student's intelligence.
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2/4/2016 12:15:40 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/4/2016 12:10:52 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 2/3/2016 11:49:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
It depends on how well a parent can teach.

My mother didn't do so hot at teaching. I had to do my work on my own, but I excel in public school because of what I taught myself. The ability for a parent to teach does not always have an effect on the outcome of a student's intelligence.

No, but it would be better if the parent had a clue at what they're doing.
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2/4/2016 12:16:44 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/4/2016 12:15:40 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/4/2016 12:10:52 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 2/3/2016 11:49:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
It depends on how well a parent can teach.

My mother didn't do so hot at teaching. I had to do my work on my own, but I excel in public school because of what I taught myself. The ability for a parent to teach does not always have an effect on the outcome of a student's intelligence.

No, but it would be better if the parent had a clue at what they're doing.

True. My mother was and still is an idiot.
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"Screw laying siege to Korea. That usually takes an hour or so." -Vaarka

"Crap, what is my religion again?" -Vaarka

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2/4/2016 12:17:23 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/4/2016 12:16:44 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 2/4/2016 12:15:40 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 2/4/2016 12:10:52 AM, The-Voice-of-Truth wrote:
At 2/3/2016 11:49:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
It depends on how well a parent can teach.

My mother didn't do so hot at teaching. I had to do my work on my own, but I excel in public school because of what I taught myself. The ability for a parent to teach does not always have an effect on the outcome of a student's intelligence.

No, but it would be better if the parent had a clue at what they're doing.

True. My mother was and still is an idiot.

Ok then.
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2/4/2016 12:21:56 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/3/2016 11:49:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
It depends on how well a parent can teach.

Whats your opinion on the social aspect?
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2/4/2016 12:41:18 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/4/2016 12:21:56 AM, Rosalie wrote:
At 2/3/2016 11:49:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
It depends on how well a parent can teach.

Whats your opinion on the social aspect?

Meh. It doesn't concern me unless, again, the parent is incompetent.
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2/4/2016 4:51:25 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/3/2016 9:22:38 PM, Rosalie wrote:

Personally I prefer public school, though admittedly I don't have firsthand experience with homeschooling. I do tend to think that learning to work together with peers is an important part of schooling that applies to the workplace as well. As for the actual learning, I agree with some people who've said that it depends on the parents' ability to teach. With capable parents, homeschooling could probably be pretty powerful given the undivided attention that the child receives.
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2/5/2016 12:21:08 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/3/2016 11:49:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
It depends on how well a parent can teach.

^^^This
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2/7/2016 3:26:43 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
I prefer public or private school mostly, but I think it is totally fine for there to be homeschooling.
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2/7/2016 3:28:14 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/3/2016 11:49:18 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
It depends on how well a parent can teach.

Homeschool does not mean you get teached by your mom. It just means that they do not get teached at school, meaning they can have tutors and go to academies.
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2/26/2016 10:38:05 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/3/2016 9:22:38 PM, Rosalie wrote:
This is a topic that has always interested me. I like to hear more thoughts on what type of schooling you believe is more sufficient, or where you would place your child.

Personally, I believe homeschooling is a horrible idea. There is no social-interactions with other kids. Kids need to simply learn proper communication skills to prep them for the real world, and the workplace. Not only that, but not all parents are fully equitable to teach their children certain subjects.


Pros of Public School:
"Learning within a group setting
"Extra-curricular activity availability
"More curriculum opportunities
"Diverse social education

Cons of Public School:
"High student-teacher ratio
"Less independence (scheduled learning)
"School chooses curriculum
"Peers based on area instead of choice

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Pros of Home School

"Free to choose curriculum
"Free to choose schedule
"Small teacher to student ratio
"Teaches students to be independent in their learning choices

Cons of Home School
"Usually more expensive than public school
"Teachers are not always qualified to teach all subjects
"It"s harder to provide social interaction
"Colleges sometimes have stricter admission policies concerning homeschooled students.

Please feel free to share your thoughts.

I absolutely agree with you! Public School is a place where kids learn how to overcome social barriers. It is a small world which prepares children to cope with life. At the same time, it is more effective to study in groups, because children have an opportunity to share their ideas and thoughts.
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2/26/2016 10:59:10 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/3/2016 9:22:38 PM, Rosalie wrote:
This is a topic that has always interested me. I like to hear more thoughts on what type of schooling you believe is more sufficient, or where you would place your child.

Personally, I believe homeschooling is a horrible idea. There is no social-interactions with other kids. Kids need to simply learn proper communication skills to prep them for the real world, and the workplace. Not only that, but not all parents are fully equitable to teach their children certain subjects.


Pros of Public School:
"Learning within a group setting
"Extra-curricular activity availability
"More curriculum opportunities
"Diverse social education

Cons of Public School:
"High student-teacher ratio
"Less independence (scheduled learning)
"School chooses curriculum
"Peers based on area instead of choice

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Pros of Home School

"Free to choose curriculum
"Free to choose schedule
"Small teacher to student ratio
"Teaches students to be independent in their learning choices

Cons of Home School
"Usually more expensive than public school
"Teachers are not always qualified to teach all subjects
"It"s harder to provide social interaction
"Colleges sometimes have stricter admission policies concerning homeschooled students.

Please feel free to share your thoughts.

Yes I agree. Going to school is a crucial part of growing up for children. Yes potentially homeschooling can provide better education but it means the child being home schooled loses out on vital social interaction, friendships and learning how to work in groups and share resources. I think home schooling should be strongly discouraged.
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3/2/2016 11:48:21 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
Homeschooling doesn't give lots of friends in school. You just have family. And public schooling doesn't allow you to be with your family.
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3/5/2016 4:38:30 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
I feel like I've answered this already, but public school.
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3/5/2016 4:38:48 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
Lol, I did.
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"Screw laying siege to Korea. That usually takes an hour or so." -Vaarka

"Crap, what is my religion again?" -Vaarka

I'm Rick Harrison and this is my pawn shop. I work here with my old man and my son, Big Hoss, and in 23 years I've learned one thing. You never know what is gonna come through that door.
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3/6/2016 6:27:05 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/3/2016 9:22:38 PM, Rosalie wrote:
This is a topic that has always interested me. I like to hear more thoughts on what type of schooling you believe is more sufficient, or where you would place your child.

Personally, I believe homeschooling is a horrible idea. There is no social-interactions with other kids. Kids need to simply learn proper communication skills to prep them for the real world, and the workplace. Not only that, but not all parents are fully equitable to teach their children certain subjects.


Pros of Public School:
"Learning within a group setting
"Extra-curricular activity availability
"More curriculum opportunities
"Diverse social education

Cons of Public School:
"High student-teacher ratio
"Less independence (scheduled learning)
"School chooses curriculum
"Peers based on area instead of choice

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Pros of Home School

"Free to choose curriculum
"Free to choose schedule
"Small teacher to student ratio
"Teaches students to be independent in their learning choices

Cons of Home School
"Usually more expensive than public school
"Teachers are not always qualified to teach all subjects
"It"s harder to provide social interaction
"Colleges sometimes have stricter admission policies concerning homeschooled students.

Please feel free to share your thoughts.

You are very poor writer.
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3/6/2016 6:30:00 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/6/2016 6:27:05 AM, TRap wrote:
At 2/3/2016 9:22:38 PM, Rosalie wrote:
This is a topic that has always interested me. I like to hear more thoughts on what type of schooling you believe is more sufficient, or where you would place your child.

Personally, I believe homeschooling is a horrible idea. There is no social-interactions with other kids. Kids need to simply learn proper communication skills to prep them for the real world, and the workplace. Not only that, but not all parents are fully equitable to teach their children certain subjects.


Pros of Public School:
"Learning within a group setting
"Extra-curricular activity availability
"More curriculum opportunities
"Diverse social education

Cons of Public School:
"High student-teacher ratio
"Less independence (scheduled learning)
"School chooses curriculum
"Peers based on area instead of choice

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Pros of Home School

"Free to choose curriculum
"Free to choose schedule
"Small teacher to student ratio
"Teaches students to be independent in their learning choices

Cons of Home School
"Usually more expensive than public school
"Teachers are not always qualified to teach all subjects
"It"s harder to provide social interaction
"Colleges sometimes have stricter admission policies concerning homeschooled students.

Please feel free to share your thoughts.

You are very poor writer.

Look who's talking.

I think you meant to say-- * You are a very poor writer.
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3/6/2016 8:25:36 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/6/2016 6:30:00 AM, Rosalie wrote:
At 3/6/2016 6:27:05 AM, TRap wrote:
At 2/3/2016 9:22:38 PM, Rosalie wrote:
This is a topic that has always interested me. I like to hear more thoughts on what type of schooling you believe is more sufficient, or where you would place your child.

Personally, I believe homeschooling is a horrible idea. There is no social-interactions with other kids. Kids need to simply learn proper communication skills to prep them for the real world, and the workplace. Not only that, but not all parents are fully equitable to teach their children certain subjects.


Pros of Public School:
"Learning within a group setting
"Extra-curricular activity availability
"More curriculum opportunities
"Diverse social education

Cons of Public School:
"High student-teacher ratio
"Less independence (scheduled learning)
"School chooses curriculum
"Peers based on area instead of choice

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Pros of Home School

"Free to choose curriculum
"Free to choose schedule
"Small teacher to student ratio
"Teaches students to be independent in their learning choices

Cons of Home School
"Usually more expensive than public school
"Teachers are not always qualified to teach all subjects
"It"s harder to provide social interaction
"Colleges sometimes have stricter admission policies concerning homeschooled students.

Please feel free to share your thoughts.

You are very poor writer.

Look who's talking.

I think you meant to say-- * You are a very poor writer.

Now that's self - realization.
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3/7/2016 11:43:50 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/3/2016 9:22:38 PM, Rosalie wrote:
This is a topic that has always interested me. I like to hear more thoughts on what type of schooling you believe is more sufficient, or where you would place your child.

Personally, I believe homeschooling is a horrible idea. There is no social-interactions with other kids. Kids need to simply learn proper communication skills to prep them for the real world, and the workplace. Not only that, but not all parents are fully equitable to teach their children certain subjects.


Pros of Public School:
"Learning within a group setting
"Extra-curricular activity availability
"More curriculum opportunities
"Diverse social education

Cons of Public School:
"High student-teacher ratio
"Less independence (scheduled learning)
"School chooses curriculum
"Peers based on area instead of choice

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Pros of Home School

"Free to choose curriculum
"Free to choose schedule
"Small teacher to student ratio
"Teaches students to be independent in their learning choices

Cons of Home School
"Usually more expensive than public school
"Teachers are not always qualified to teach all subjects
"It"s harder to provide social interaction
"Colleges sometimes have stricter admission policies concerning homeschooled students.

Please feel free to share your thoughts.

I'm a homeschooler, and I disagree with three of your Cons.

"It's harder to provide social interaction."
Actually, parents can do this by extra-curricular activities, and they'll meet children with the same interest and talent.

""Colleges sometimes have stricter admission policies concerning homeschooled students. "
In the Philippines, when you say homeschooler, it means that he is unique from other students when it comes to intelligence. He is sometimes referred to as 'weird' because of his wide knowledge, and tell me, there are a lot of weirdos in college.

"Teachers are not always qualified to teach all subjects"
Parents hire tutors for their children. And those tutors are being approved first by the school before allowing them to teach the homeschoolers, even if they come from prestigious institutions. In my case, it is my mom who teaches me, and I always place Top 1 among other kids.

I only agree that it is more expensive due to the fact of extra-curricular activities, various family field trips, etc.
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3/18/2016 4:15:56 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
In public schools at this time there are a lot of aggressive and antisocial children. Sadly, most of them are from families with a low income.

If I had a choice, which school to choose for my kid, I would choose a private school or homeschooling.

I know about a few examples of successful homeschooling by moms, who have 6-7 children. It's like a mini-class. But each child needs a special approach and treatment, because of their age difference.
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4/7/2016 3:44:31 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 2/3/2016 9:22:38 PM, Rosalie wrote:
This is a topic that has always interested me. I like to hear more thoughts on what type of schooling you believe is more sufficient, or where you would place your child.

Personally, I believe homeschooling is a horrible idea. There is no social-interactions with other kids. Kids need to simply learn proper communication skills to prep them for the real world, and the workplace. Not only that, but not all parents are fully equitable to teach their children certain subjects.

Not necessarily true in all cases. When I was homeschooled, I still had social interaction with other kids. I will agree that there is less opportunity for social interaction, but there is still plenty opportunity nonetheless. And my mother, who was supposed to teaching me, taught me nothing at all beyond basic pre-school stuff, but I tested at post-high school scores on standardized testing in 7th grade.
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4/8/2016 1:19:50 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
Public schools are better than homes schools
Because:

1. In Public schools you have an opportunity to socially interact with other people which develops communication skills and it increases your social skills.
2. In public schools you are taught by proper-qualified teachers who know what they are doing (no-offense) and understands how to teach while at most home schools which may be taught by parents, depending on their job may not have teaching experience.
3. Home schools will encourage people to be socially isolated which is bad
4. Public school gives a proper education to people, good amount of hours to learn, good quality work etc
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4/28/2016 2:54:54 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
I'm a homeschooler, and I disagree with three of your Cons.

"It's harder to provide social interaction."
Actually, parents can do this by extra-curricular activities, and they'll meet children with the same interest and talent.

""Colleges sometimes have stricter admission policies concerning homeschooled students. "
In the Philippines, when you say homeschooler, it means that he is unique from other students when it comes to intelligence. He is sometimes referred to as 'weird' because of his wide knowledge, and tell me, there are a lot of weirdos in college.

"Teachers are not always qualified to teach all subjects"
Parents hire tutors for their children. And those tutors are being approved first by the school before allowing them to teach the homeschoolers, even if they come from prestigious institutions. In my case, it is my mom who teaches me, and I always place Top 1 among other kids.

I only agree that it is more expensive due to the fact of extra-curricular activities, various family field trips, etc.

My nephews are home schooled, and they are doing fine but it's only possible because my brother in law earns enough for her to not have to work and do all those extra curricular things, go on trips, buy supplies etc so it feels like it's almost another form of private education, only available to a certain group of privileged kids.
This bit worries me too..." they'll meet children with the same interest and talent." It seems that these children only mix with children from similar backgrounds, and I'm not sure how healthy that is, this is the only social interaction part that I worry about. I know hoomeschooled kids mix with a lot of other kids but it's a very narrow group and i can't help feeling it's very elitist.
I will stand by my sister for her choices, but I do have concerns.
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5/4/2016 1:45:47 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/8/2016 1:19:50 PM, Debestdebater20 wrote:
1. In Public schools you have an opportunity to socially interact with other people which develops communication skills and it increases your social skills.
Not being forced to be around others != no opportunity to socialize

2. In public schools you are taught by proper-qualified teachers
With likely below-average IQs

who know what they are doing (no-offense) and understands how to teach
Which is why three out of four community college freshmen need remedial education in reading and mathematics.

3. Home schools will encourage people to be socially isolated which is bad
Not really. Nothing's preventing you from, say, joining a social club or whatever.

4. Public school gives a proper education to people, good amount of hours to learn, good quality work etc
No, no, and no.
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sketchb
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5/5/2016 1:12:53 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
I've always been home-schooled, but I also go to a supplemental school. I love the aspects of both, as I get all the pros of both.
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