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Canibus vs Eminem ?

inferno
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3/1/2012 1:33:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Em's best album to me, was probably The Marshall Mathers lp. He was unrestrained, unapologetic, refined, definitive, and beautifully defiant.
It is his best work to date. But I have been listening to some of Canibus's albums lately. And let me tell you this. He is on a much different level than Eminem.
He has a deep, transcendent, methodical approach to his lyrics.
He is spiritual by nature, and has a message in his songs.
Em does at times, but he has been tainted by commercialism.
And sometimes that can take away from ones authenticity. His passion is not quite the same as it once was.
What do you think.
Lasagna
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5/22/2012 1:38:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/1/2012 1:33:18 PM, inferno wrote:
Em's best album to me, was probably The Marshall Mathers lp. He was unrestrained, unapologetic, refined, definitive, and beautifully defiant.

Agreed.

It is his best work to date. But I have been listening to some of Canibus's albums lately. And let me tell you this. He is on a much different level than Eminem.
He has a deep, transcendent, methodical approach to his lyrics.
He is spiritual by nature, and has a message in his songs.
Em does at times, but he has been tainted by commercialism.
And sometimes that can take away from ones authenticity. His passion is not quite the same as it once was.
What do you think.

Well for a guy who has sold more albums than Jesus, it's hard to get away from commercialism. We live under capitalsim. 'Nuff said.

Eminem's trilogy debut was probably the most notable work in the history of the genre. It was the climax of Dr. Dre's run as a producer, coming just after a really good comeback album for himself (which was soon forgotten by the explosion of Eminem). Being both white and unfathomably good, he quickly displaced the Biggy v. Pac bullsh1t as the greatest rapper ever.

Eminem had just about everything. A good voice, a marketable image (sex symbol as well as thuggish), complex and catchy lyrical phrases, humor, and perhaps most importantly an underlying message in his lyrics. His stories took you from beginning to end very gracefully without the choppy, confusing ebonics most black rappers used or the current trend of simply bragging throughout the entire track. Like the song where he starts out trying to rob/rape the girl in the alley and ends up killing her with his d1ck at the end (: . Or the one about his estranged fan with Dido, the mushroom song, or 8 mile. In the tracks where it wasn't a story he still got his message across well (I'm crazy, hard life, etc.) and set up his character for other tracks.

The Eminem show ended however and every star of that caliber is going to experience deviation towards the mean. His quality is still good (particularly if compared to what else is out there right now) but definitely not approaching his former self.

I know less about Canibus but I really liked him when he first came out. His guest appearances on many East Coast albums were all very good, and just as it looked like he was going to break out towards elite status he suffered an embarrassing defeat to LL Cool J and dropped an album that paled compared to his appearances with the likes of the Lost Boyz. Does he have some more recent works that stand out to you?
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5/24/2012 9:13:28 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/22/2012 1:38:04 PM, Lasagna wrote:
At 3/1/2012 1:33:18 PM, inferno wrote:
Em's best album to me, was probably The Marshall Mathers lp. He was unrestrained, unapologetic, refined, definitive, and beautifully defiant.

Agreed.

It is his best work to date. But I have been listening to some of Canibus's albums lately. And let me tell you this. He is on a much different level than Eminem.
He has a deep, transcendent, methodical approach to his lyrics.
He is spiritual by nature, and has a message in his songs.
Em does at times, but he has been tainted by commercialism.
And sometimes that can take away from ones authenticity. His passion is not quite the same as it once was.
What do you think.

Well for a guy who has sold more albums than Jesus, it's hard to get away from commercialism. We live under capitalsim. 'Nuff said.

Eminem's trilogy debut was probably the most notable work in the history of the genre. It was the climax of Dr. Dre's run as a producer, coming just after a really good comeback album for himself (which was soon forgotten by the explosion of Eminem). Being both white and unfathomably good, he quickly displaced the Biggy v. Pac bullsh1t as the greatest rapper ever.

Eminem had just about everything. A good voice, a marketable image (sex symbol as well as thuggish), complex and catchy lyrical phrases, humor, and perhaps most importantly an underlying message in his lyrics. His stories took you from beginning to end very gracefully without the choppy, confusing ebonics most black rappers used or the current trend of simply bragging throughout the entire track. Like the song where he starts out trying to rob/rape the girl in the alley and ends up killing her with his d1ck at the end (: . Or the one about his estranged fan with Dido, the mushroom song, or 8 mile. In the tracks where it wasn't a story he still got his message across well (I'm crazy, hard life, etc.) and set up his character for other tracks.

The Eminem show ended however and every star of that caliber is going to experience deviation towards the mean. His quality is still good (particularly if compared to what else is out there right now) but definitely not approaching his former self.

I know less about Canibus but I really liked him when he first came out. His guest appearances on many East Coast albums were all very good, and just as it looked like he was going to break out towards elite status he suffered an embarrassing defeat to LL Cool J and dropped an album that paled compared to his appearances with the likes of the Lost Boyz. Does he have some more recent works that stand out to you?

See amazon.com for more information. You will realize that Canibus is the better rapper for many reasons unknown. When you are at amazon.com, just type in his name as it is here. Make sure your category is music. And you will see all of his albums, and see his incredible reviews. I ditched mainstream a few years ago.
And now, I am not in the dark about what is going on in the world of music, as I have been introduced to a wide array and selection of artists who do not always get
the credit they deserve. But trust me on this, as a huge fan of Eminem. Yes, it can be said for sure. Canibus is better. Period.

http://www.amazon.com...