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TheOutspokenOne
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10/8/2009 3:01:15 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Should they have made 'Twilight' into a movie, or left it as a book? I get people in my school arguing about this all the time. Personally, I think that if they were going to make a movie, they needed to make it right, not cut half the information out and add corny effects/bad actors.

Any thoughts?
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10/8/2009 3:50:58 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/8/2009 3:01:15 PM, TheOutspokenOne wrote:
Should they have made 'Twilight' into a movie, or left it as a book? I get people in my school arguing about this all the time. Personally, I think that if they were going to make a movie, they needed to make it right, not cut half the information out and add corny effects/bad actors.

Any thoughts?
Neither. I read and saw the movie. Two thumbs down.

It didnt make me blind, but i wish it had. :(
Danielle
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10/8/2009 4:00:09 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
The movie's almost never as good as the book.

That said, I have no interest in ether reading Twilight or seeing the movie.
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10/8/2009 4:13:39 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
the movie is good fun... the books were better...

but they should have gone down the same path as true blood...
hbo series, or do 6 to 7 movies... but that seemed unrealistic, since they are not supposed to to age at all.

it was to much information to cram into a movie...

true blood has done a better job then twilight has... (they have veered away from the book a little but it made the series better then the book, so no complaints.)
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10/8/2009 4:19:27 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/8/2009 4:13:39 PM, comoncents wrote:
the movie is good fun... the books were better...

but they should have gone down the same path as true blood...
hbo series, or do 6 to 7 movies... but that seemed unrealistic, since they are not supposed to to age at all.

it was to much information to cram into a movie...


true blood has done a better job then twilight has... (they have veered away from the book a little but it made the series better then the book, so no complaints.)

My eyes are bleeding now.
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10/8/2009 4:23:55 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
I haven't personally read the books or seen the movie, but I know a couple of people that have done both, and they agree that the movie was a hacked-and-slashed copy of the book's storyline, and that the only reason they would see any sequel was to see if the directors and actors could get any worse. Actual words.

That being said, Twilight itself is just a bad series overall. It has a mediocre story, forgettable characters and a very pathetic political/social/religious agenda behind it. I wouldn't waste my time.
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10/8/2009 4:27:47 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/8/2009 4:19:27 PM, tkubok wrote:
At 10/8/2009 4:13:39 PM, comoncents wrote:
the movie is good fun... the books were better...

but they should have gone down the same path as true blood...
hbo series, or do 6 to 7 movies... but that seemed unrealistic, since they are not supposed to to age at all.

it was to much information to cram into a movie...


true blood has done a better job then twilight has... (they have veered away from the book a little but it made the series better then the book, so no complaints.)

My eyes are bleeding now.

You should really take care of that then...
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10/8/2009 4:31:22 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Turning a book into a movie only magnifies however much it sucks.

If you're a lonely middle school girl with a sensitive heart and a longing for excitement, then you'll love the book and the movie. Fawning over guys who are dark and misunderstood is a hobby that never gets old for those brainless little twerps >.>

The thing I regret the most in terms of reading, is reading the Harry Potter series despite all the voices inside my head that cried out "NO!!!", just because of the hype.

It was like cheating on your wife with a hot, but brainless bombshell. During, it's pretty enjoyable. But afterwards, there's nothing but regret and remorse over how hollow and meaningless the enjoyment was >.>
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10/8/2009 4:31:58 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/8/2009 4:23:55 PM, Volkov wrote:
I haven't personally read the books or seen the movie, but I know a couple of people that have done both, and they agree that the movie was a hacked-and-slashed copy of the book's storyline, and that the only reason they would see any sequel was to see if the directors and actors could get any worse. Actual words.

that is so accurate

That being said, Twilight itself is just a bad series overall. It has a mediocre story, forgettable characters and a very pathetic political/social/religious agenda behind it. I wouldn't waste my time.

true... no one acts like the main character.
it gives women a false sense of what a man is really like.

it would be ok if women did not walk away saying, "i can't wait to find my edward cullen, he is so dreamy."
i am glad my wife is more realistic then that.
comoncents
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10/8/2009 4:33:22 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/8/2009 4:31:22 PM, Kleptin wrote:
Turning a book into a movie only magnifies however much it sucks.


is there any movie that was as good as the book...

what about marley and me... or any of the potters
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10/8/2009 4:35:21 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/8/2009 4:33:22 PM, comoncents wrote:
At 10/8/2009 4:31:22 PM, Kleptin wrote:
Turning a book into a movie only magnifies however much it sucks.


is there any movie that was as good as the book...


what about marley and me... or any of the potters

Lord of the rings. Hands down.
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10/8/2009 4:38:15 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/8/2009 4:35:21 PM, tkubok wrote:
At 10/8/2009 4:33:22 PM, comoncents wrote:
At 10/8/2009 4:31:22 PM, Kleptin wrote:
Turning a book into a movie only magnifies however much it sucks.


is there any movie that was as good as the book...


what about marley and me... or any of the potters

Lord of the rings. Hands down.

that was pretty good... but they did it right... did it straight through
it was well done in that sense.
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10/8/2009 4:57:55 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
I am a fan of VAMPIREs let me make that clear. This book/movie provided nothing but a waste of my precious life I will never get back.
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10/9/2009 9:14:11 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/8/2009 4:57:55 PM, wonderwoman wrote:
I am a fan of VAMPIREs let me make that clear. This book/movie provided nothing but a waste of my precious life I will never get back.

That alone is a bag of failure.
Thade
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11/19/2009 1:01:09 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/8/2009 3:01:15 PM, TheOutspokenOne wrote:
Should they have made 'Twilight' into a movie, or left it as a book? I get people in my school arguing about this all the time. Personally, I think that if they were going to make a movie, they needed to make it right, not cut half the information out and add corny effects/bad actors.

Any thoughts?

I think it would have been impossible for them to NOT cut part of the book out. There's just no way to fit a book that big into 90mins or so. They had no choice, and so I can't blame them. But I figure, if people really loved the movie, then they'd especially love the book more. And for those who loved the book, perhaps they can be happy just seeing some of the parts in live action.
I don't know, just my opinion.
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11/19/2009 1:04:58 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/8/2009 3:01:15 PM, TheOutspokenOne wrote:
Should they have made 'Twilight' into a movie, or left it as a book? I get people in my school arguing about this all the time. Personally, I think that if they were going to make a movie, they needed to make it right, not cut half the information out and add corny effects/bad actors.

Any thoughts?

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Thade
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11/19/2009 1:06:06 PM
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is there any movie that was as good as the book...

Lord of the rings. Hands down.

You're kidding right? lol. Did you even read the books?
The movie was really good, I admit that. It was, at the time, my favorite movie. But THEN, I read the books. And the books were a MILLION times better. The movie is still good, but it's still no comparison to the books.
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11/19/2009 1:15:18 PM
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I've read the books and seen the movie and I do have to admit the books are better, however the extended editions of the movies in my point of view do justice to the books and in some instances improve the book.

The only flaw of the movies was that they focused far to heavily on the whole love situation between Arwen and Aragorn. If the movie could be edited to exclude the extensive focus on this relationship and include the extended scenes, I would be very close to admitting that the movies are better.
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11/19/2009 1:41:57 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Something tells me the film version of Where the Wild Things Are is going to be better than the book. http://en.wikipedia.org...(film) :D

Other than that, the Mad Max flicks were better than the books, but I believe the books were novelisations of the films, so that doesn't really count. I also think Blade Runner the film was more enjoyable than the book it was based on, Do Androids Dream of Robot Sheep?

Also, f*ck Twilight and everything that looks like Twilight.
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11/19/2009 2:50:07 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 11/19/2009 1:15:18 PM, johngriswald wrote:
I've read the books and seen the movie and I do have to admit the books are better, however the extended editions of the movies in my point of view do justice to the books and in some instances improve the book.

The only flaw of the movies was that they focused far to heavily on the whole love situation between Arwen and Aragorn. If the movie could be edited to exclude the extensive focus on this relationship and include the extended scenes, I would be very close to admitting that the movies are better.

I actually never saw the extended scenes, so I can't say much about it. But I still can be sure it left out enough of the book that would still make the book better than the movies. It's just the way it works. The books have much more time to go in depth on all the characters, whereas movies will always have limited time.

I, personally, always thought that LOTR would have made a great TV series instead of a movie. That way they wouldn't have had to cut out everything from the book that they did.

And there is one scene I really hold against the movie, so I'm curious how you feel about this scene, seeing as you read the books. The scene was in the last movie, and I sometimes called it the "bread crumbs" scene. It was the scene where gollum tried to frame Sam for eating the last of their bread, and thus, betraying Frodo. And Frodo fell for the trickery. THAT rather ruined it for me.
According to the books, Frodo NEVER, in a million years, would have believed anything Gollum said over Sam. And I know Frodo was starting to become obsessed by the ring at that time, but in the book, it really seemed to me like Frodo's friendship with Sam was the only thing the ring could not overcome.

I also just like the way the books showed the friendship between Frodo and Sam much better. The movies starts out making you assume that Frodo and Sam are already friends. In the books, Sam was nothing but Frodo's gardener, and throughout the books and their journey, they become the best of friends (in fact, there were a few scenes there in the book which made them seem like a bit more than friends :P). This character and friendship development between those two was just missing from the movie.
I don't particularly hold that against them though, but this is just one more reason why I find the books better.
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11/19/2009 3:35:17 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/8/2009 3:01:15 PM, TheOutspokenOne wrote:
Should they have made 'Twilight' into a movie, or left it as a book? I get people in my school arguing about this all the time. Personally, I think that if they were going to make a movie, they needed to make it right, not cut half the information out and add corny effects/bad actors.

Any thoughts?

OMG I agree completely!!! I liked it better, even tho it was less popular, as a book. In fact before the movie I got made fun of for even reading the books and everyone said they were gay and stuff like that. I prefer this ove Edward and Bella EVERYWHERE. Plus how many people were all "OMG TWILIGHT #2!!" If your gunna be a fan know that its called NEW MOON!
Also I know I'm just ranting now, but GRR all the good books are being made into bad, corny, horrible movies. First Twilight, then Vampire's Assistant, and now just learned about Marked. T_T, and please nobody point out my obvious love of vampires. lol, the movies are f-cking gay, there I said it now I'll be mauled alive by fangirls I know.
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11/20/2009 5:50:17 AM
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11/20/2009 6:15:12 AM
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11/21/2009 1:58:45 PM
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Twilight is a horrible evil that should be eliminated off the face of this planet. Not only is the plot horribly cliche, but the Cullens are not even proper Vampires. Real Vampires would be trying to rip Bella apart. Why? She's delicious! Also, real don't sparkle in sunlight. It's supposed to harm them! Last time I checked, Vampires weren't mind readers either. Seriously, give your characters flaws too! Bella doesn't appear to have even one flaw, yet Stephanie Meyer attempts to cover this up by making Bella clumsy. Even Edward could be seen as flawless. He has looks, superpowers, is immortal...

Only characters that actually apear to be half-decent are the werewolves because they're actually flawed and follow more closely to what the werewolf myth is supposed to be. Like you have Jacob who is competing for Bella's love. He fails because of course the "love" between Bella and Edward has to be completely unrealistic fairy tale love at first sight.

Oh, and one last thing. F*ck off, all you over-obsessed 12 year old fan girls! Twilight is not cool. Go obsess over something that is actually cool and has a good plot. So, to sum it all up, I would happily burn any Twilight books that come into my hands. :)
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11/21/2009 4:06:47 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 11/19/2009 1:41:57 PM, leet4A1 wrote:
I also think Blade Runner the film was more enjoyable than the book it was based on, Do Androids Dream of Robot Sheep?

Lol. Phillip K Dick is still godly.

Also, f*ck Twilight and everything that looks like Twilight.

I've seen the trailers does that count? Why arn't the christain right up in arms about such explicit promotion of necrophilia, and judging by the hairy bounding beasty in the latest one, bestiality? >.>

That said, I'm not surprised at the popularity, soft porn vampire books have been popular for pre teen girls for a long time.
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11/21/2009 4:12:05 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 11/21/2009 1:58:45 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Also, real don't sparkle in sunlight. It's supposed to harm them!

Yes, clearly that's why they come out when it's cloudy. Every Junior Scientist knows, clouds block large amounts of sunlight... oh wait.
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11/22/2009 2:02:39 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 11/21/2009 1:58:45 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Real Vampires would be trying to rip Bella apart. Why? She's delicious!

First the movie didnt make it as clear but Edward really wanted to eat her as shown in Midnight Sun. Oh wait some b---- made it so SM wouldnt publish it and it can no longer be found on the internet to my knowlage (I know its there somewhere but since the movies came out I don't feel like looking it up)

But Edward's first though about Bella was "How fast can I kill everyone so I can drink all her blood", or something very similar.
It was made pretty obvious in the other books, but the movie needs to die.
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11/22/2009 2:48:28 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
There are too many impressionable young idiots out there who will read this book and be brainwashed.

There are enough girls out there who think that they are more deep and misunderstood than they actually are.

There are enough girls out there who pine for a dark and mysterious guy who obsesses over her.

There are enough girls who want to be with pale, emotionless morons and get the ego-boost of being the one to make them experience love.

There are enough girls who ignore kind, loving, and compassionate men in favor of the moody and abusive ones.

There are enough girls barely of age who consider themselves to have found "true love" while still in highschool.

There are enough girls who are spoiled, lazy, and unappreciative of what they have who want nothing more than irrational drama and fantasy.

And in 10 years or so, when the middle school brats who grew up obsessed with this book finally reach the age where they are supposed to be contributing to society, they will end up with all of the traits above because the moral of Twilight is that if you embody all those traits, you will find excitement and romance and live happily ever after.
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11/22/2009 2:55:33 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
THEN, there are the GUYS.

There are enough guys who pretend to be mysterious, nonchalant and misunderstood.

There are enough guys who are unappreciative of what they have and choose instead to whine and complain about how dreary everything is.

There are enough guys who drape themselves in sorrow and darkness, who listen to emo music and cut themselves to feel alive.

There are enough guys who are pale from lack of sunlight and creepy towards the girls they like.

There are enough guys who are possessive and abusive towards the ones they allegedly love.

These depressing little snots I see with their hair covering their eyes, pretending to play the guitar, whining in their effeminate manner about how life has forsaken them (when their parents are upper middle class and buy them whatever they want) deserve to be beaten.

And mark my words, there will be some hideous fashion trend where guys are planning to cover themselves in body glitter. If I see some middle school aged boy glittering in the sunlight, I'm going to mine him with a pickaxe under the assumption that he contains gold.
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It isn't about finding a theory, philosophy or doctrine and thinking it's the answer, but a practical application of one's experiences that is the answer.

: At 10/28/2010 2:40:07 PM, jharry wrote: I have already been given the greatest Gift that anyone could ever hope for [Life], I would consider myself selfish if I expected anything more.