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# Did I just end the Goku vs. Superman debate?

 Posts: 2,487 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/1/2013 11:10:15 AMPosted: 4 years agoLet's do some math, because why the fvck not.At a power level of 139, Master Roshi destroyed the moon with a kamehameha wave. He taught this move to Goku, who then mastered this move, so we can assume, logically, that at a power level of 139, Goku could destroy the moon. Keep this in mind.The last section where power levels are actually shown for Goku is the Frieza saga, where his power level in his base form is three million, and his power level in his SSJ1 form is 150 million.The conversion from SSJ1 to SSJ2 is a two times multiplier, and the conversion from SSJ2 to SSJ3 is a four times multiplier. So let's multiply Goku's SSJ1 power level by eight, and you get his power level, at SSJ3, to be 1.2 billion.Now divide that by 139 to get the total numbers of moons he could destroy now with one kamehameha wave (8,633,093.525).Now divide that by 49.3 (number of moons to fit in one Earth) to get the total number of earths he could obliterate with one kamehameha wave (175,113.4589).Now we multiply that by 54 quadrillion to get the amount of megatons of TNT that one kamehameha wave at SSJ3 is worth (9.456*10^21).This means that one kamehameha wave, at SSJ3, assuming Goku has no increase in power level since the Frieza saga, is worth 9.456 sextillion megatons of TNT, 175,113 Earths, or 8,633,093 moons....math b!tchDebate me: Economic decision theory should be adjusted to include higher-order preferences for non-normative purposes http://www.debate.org... Do you really believe that? Or not? If you believe it, you should man up and defend it in a debate. -RoyLatham My Pet Fish is such a Douche- NiamC It's an app to meet friends and stuff, sort of like an adult club penguin- Thett3, describing Tinder
 Posts: 346 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/1/2013 12:35:26 PMPosted: 4 years agoAt 10/1/2013 11:10:15 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:Let's do some math, because why the fvck not.At a power level of 139, Master Roshi destroyed the moon with a kamehameha wave. He taught this move to Goku, who then mastered this move, so we can assume, logically, that at a power level of 139, Goku could destroy the moon. Keep this in mind.The last section where power levels are actually shown for Goku is the Frieza saga, where his power level in his base form is three million, and his power level in his SSJ1 form is 150 million.The conversion from SSJ1 to SSJ2 is a two times multiplier, and the conversion from SSJ2 to SSJ3 is a four times multiplier. So let's multiply Goku's SSJ1 power level by eight, and you get his power level, at SSJ3, to be 1.2 billion.Now divide that by 139 to get the total numbers of moons he could destroy now with one kamehameha wave (8,633,093.525).Now divide that by 49.3 (number of moons to fit in one Earth) to get the total number of earths he could obliterate with one kamehameha wave (175,113.4589).Now we multiply that by 54 quadrillion to get the amount of megatons of TNT that one kamehameha wave at SSJ3 is worth (9.456*10^21).This means that one kamehameha wave, at SSJ3, assuming Goku has no increase in power level since the Frieza saga, is worth 9.456 sextillion megatons of TNT, 175,113 Earths, or 8,633,093 moons....math b!tchyou have done silly mistakes in your maths! Tale tuitions.... but really yeah... Goku and TNT is some good ratio relation.Only cool guys can see this....
 Posts: 2,487 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/1/2013 12:57:47 PMPosted: 4 years agoAt 10/1/2013 12:35:26 PM, rajun wrote:At 10/1/2013 11:10:15 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:Let's do some math, because why the fvck not.At a power level of 139, Master Roshi destroyed the moon with a kamehameha wave. He taught this move to Goku, who then mastered this move, so we can assume, logically, that at a power level of 139, Goku could destroy the moon. Keep this in mind.The last section where power levels are actually shown for Goku is the Frieza saga, where his power level in his base form is three million, and his power level in his SSJ1 form is 150 million.The conversion from SSJ1 to SSJ2 is a two times multiplier, and the conversion from SSJ2 to SSJ3 is a four times multiplier. So let's multiply Goku's SSJ1 power level by eight, and you get his power level, at SSJ3, to be 1.2 billion.Now divide that by 139 to get the total numbers of moons he could destroy now with one kamehameha wave (8,633,093.525).Now divide that by 49.3 (number of moons to fit in one Earth) to get the total number of earths he could obliterate with one kamehameha wave (175,113.4589).Now we multiply that by 54 quadrillion to get the amount of megatons of TNT that one kamehameha wave at SSJ3 is worth (9.456*10^21).This means that one kamehameha wave, at SSJ3, assuming Goku has no increase in power level since the Frieza saga, is worth 9.456 sextillion megatons of TNT, 175,113 Earths, or 8,633,093 moons....math b!tchyou have done silly mistakes in your maths! Tale tuitions.... but really yeah... Goku and TNT is some good ratio relation.Where are my mistakes?Debate me: Economic decision theory should be adjusted to include higher-order preferences for non-normative purposes http://www.debate.org... Do you really believe that? Or not? If you believe it, you should man up and defend it in a debate. -RoyLatham My Pet Fish is such a Douche- NiamC It's an app to meet friends and stuff, sort of like an adult club penguin- Thett3, describing Tinder
 Posts: 4,325 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/1/2013 1:00:02 PMPosted: 4 years agoI agree with that.But did you factor in Kaio-Kein multiplier in addition? Or is that assumed at the end of the frieza saga?Affinity: Fire Class: Human Abilities: ???? Nac. WOAH, COLORED FONT!
 Posts: 2,487 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/1/2013 1:07:28 PMPosted: 4 years agoAt 10/1/2013 1:00:02 PM, TheAntidoter wrote:I agree with that.But did you factor in Kaio-Kein multiplier in addition? Or is that assumed at the end of the frieza saga?He's never done Kaio-Ken during super saiyan, so no multiplier there.Debate me: Economic decision theory should be adjusted to include higher-order preferences for non-normative purposes http://www.debate.org... Do you really believe that? Or not? If you believe it, you should man up and defend it in a debate. -RoyLatham My Pet Fish is such a Douche- NiamC It's an app to meet friends and stuff, sort of like an adult club penguin- Thett3, describing Tinder
 Posts: 4,325 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/1/2013 1:11:38 PMPosted: 4 years agoTo answer the OP though, you ended it more satisfyingly then those people at death battle.Seriously though, they may have put some effort into it, but in all honesty, they messed up multiple times on both sides.Affinity: Fire Class: Human Abilities: ???? Nac. WOAH, COLORED FONT!
 Posts: 572 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/3/2013 1:53:58 AMPosted: 4 years agoAt 10/1/2013 11:10:15 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:Let's do some math, because why the fvck not.At a power level of 139, Master Roshi destroyed the moon with a kamehameha wave. He taught this move to Goku, who then mastered this move, so we can assume, logically, that at a power level of 139, Goku could destroy the moon. Keep this in mind.The last section where power levels are actually shown for Goku is the Frieza saga, where his power level in his base form is three million, and his power level in his SSJ1 form is 150 million.The conversion from SSJ1 to SSJ2 is a two times multiplier, and the conversion from SSJ2 to SSJ3 is a four times multiplier. So let's multiply Goku's SSJ1 power level by eight, and you get his power level, at SSJ3, to be 1.2 billion.Now divide that by 139 to get the total numbers of moons he could destroy now with one kamehameha wave (8,633,093.525).Now divide that by 49.3 (number of moons to fit in one Earth) to get the total number of earths he could obliterate with one kamehameha wave (175,113.4589).Now we multiply that by 54 quadrillion to get the amount of megatons of TNT that one kamehameha wave at SSJ3 is worth (9.456*10^21).This means that one kamehameha wave, at SSJ3, assuming Goku has no increase in power level since the Frieza saga, is worth 9.456 sextillion megatons of TNT, 175,113 Earths, or 8,633,093 moons....math b!tchYou didn't compare him to Superman.
 Posts: 4,325 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/3/2013 1:25:48 PMPosted: 4 years agoAt 10/3/2013 1:53:58 AM, Jack212 wrote:At 10/1/2013 11:10:15 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:Let's do some math, because why the fvck not.At a power level of 139, Master Roshi destroyed the moon with a kamehameha wave. He taught this move to Goku, who then mastered this move, so we can assume, logically, that at a power level of 139, Goku could destroy the moon. Keep this in mind.The last section where power levels are actually shown for Goku is the Frieza saga, where his power level in his base form is three million, and his power level in his SSJ1 form is 150 million.The conversion from SSJ1 to SSJ2 is a two times multiplier, and the conversion from SSJ2 to SSJ3 is a four times multiplier. So let's multiply Goku's SSJ1 power level by eight, and you get his power level, at SSJ3, to be 1.2 billion.Now divide that by 139 to get the total numbers of moons he could destroy now with one kamehameha wave (8,633,093.525).Now divide that by 49.3 (number of moons to fit in one Earth) to get the total number of earths he could obliterate with one kamehameha wave (175,113.4589).Now we multiply that by 54 quadrillion to get the amount of megatons of TNT that one kamehameha wave at SSJ3 is worth (9.456*10^21).This means that one kamehameha wave, at SSJ3, assuming Goku has no increase in power level since the Frieza saga, is worth 9.456 sextillion megatons of TNT, 175,113 Earths, or 8,633,093 moons....math b!tchYou didn't compare him to Superman.Precisley the problem with his argument.Superman, although I cannot source this argument at this time, has a lifting weight of 270 septillion tons, as well as being able to withstand the force of ten supernovae.Affinity: Fire Class: Human Abilities: ???? Nac. WOAH, COLORED FONT!
 Posts: 2,487 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/3/2013 2:46:14 PMPosted: 4 years agoAt 10/3/2013 1:25:48 PM, TheAntidoter wrote:At 10/3/2013 1:53:58 AM, Jack212 wrote:At 10/1/2013 11:10:15 AM, ClassicRobert wrote:Let's do some math, because why the fvck not.At a power level of 139, Master Roshi destroyed the moon with a kamehameha wave. He taught this move to Goku, who then mastered this move, so we can assume, logically, that at a power level of 139, Goku could destroy the moon. Keep this in mind.The last section where power levels are actually shown for Goku is the Frieza saga, where his power level in his base form is three million, and his power level in his SSJ1 form is 150 million.The conversion from SSJ1 to SSJ2 is a two times multiplier, and the conversion from SSJ2 to SSJ3 is a four times multiplier. So let's multiply Goku's SSJ1 power level by eight, and you get his power level, at SSJ3, to be 1.2 billion.Now divide that by 139 to get the total numbers of moons he could destroy now with one kamehameha wave (8,633,093.525).Now divide that by 49.3 (number of moons to fit in one Earth) to get the total number of earths he could obliterate with one kamehameha wave (175,113.4589).Now we multiply that by 54 quadrillion to get the amount of megatons of TNT that one kamehameha wave at SSJ3 is worth (9.456*10^21).This means that one kamehameha wave, at SSJ3, assuming Goku has no increase in power level since the Frieza saga, is worth 9.456 sextillion megatons of TNT, 175,113 Earths, or 8,633,093 moons....math b!tchYou didn't compare him to Superman.Precisley the problem with his argument.Superman, although I cannot source this argument at this time, has a lifting weight of 270 septillion tons, as well as being able to withstand the force of ten supernovae.It is absolutely true that he is capable of withstanding the force of ten supernovae... however, he was knocked unconscious. His ability to withstand it was predicated on one of his immunities... heat doesn't effect him. Almost all of the energy from a supernova is lost into heat, leaving a very small relative amount of the supernovae actually effecting him. Goku's kamehamehas, however, are shown to be perfectly efficient: pure energy, almost none of it lost in the form of heat. This can be seen in the way that even with these massive blasts, none of the surroundings for the beam are bursting into flame. This gives apt reason to believe that Goku's kamehamehas would be worth more in actual harmful energy than supernovae.Let's also look at the other things that have knocked Superman unconscious, namely, the explosion of a shadow moon. This would be worth about 1.1 quadrillion megatons of TNT. So Superman requires a very small (relative) amount of force to be defeated.Debate me: Economic decision theory should be adjusted to include higher-order preferences for non-normative purposes http://www.debate.org... Do you really believe that? Or not? If you believe it, you should man up and defend it in a debate. -RoyLatham My Pet Fish is such a Douche- NiamC It's an app to meet friends and stuff, sort of like an adult club penguin- Thett3, describing Tinder
 Posts: 5,923 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/3/2013 3:45:48 PMPosted: 4 years agoIsn't ki magic and isn't superman weak to magic? He could not have won against the kamehameha or the spirit bomb if ki was magic.Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
 Posts: 572 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/3/2013 4:24:27 PMPosted: 4 years agoAt 10/3/2013 3:45:48 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:Isn't ki magic and isn't superman weak to magic? He could not have won against the kamehameha or the spirit bomb if ki was magic.Superman is technically vulnerable to magic, but it really depends on the writer. He's withstood magic that's beaten Wonder Woman (who is resistant to certain types of magic).This whole debate is stupid. Superman is ridiculously overpowered even at his weakest.
 Posts: 5,923 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/3/2013 4:36:26 PMPosted: 4 years agoAt 10/3/2013 4:24:27 PM, Jack212 wrote:At 10/3/2013 3:45:48 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:Isn't ki magic and isn't superman weak to magic? He could not have won against the kamehameha or the spirit bomb if ki was magic.Superman is technically vulnerable to magic, but it really depends on the writer. He's withstood magic that's beaten Wonder Woman (who is resistant to certain types of magic).This whole debate is stupid. Superman is ridiculously overpowered even at his weakest.Ok darkseid: the major superman villian that you see causing a heckuva alot of catastrophes on earth. Darksied could really only match up to the dbz villian frieza if he had some jupiter sized death machine. Even so frieza is the guy that destroyed a planet with an energy ball the sized of our moon....while sitting in a levitating chair. And that was only the first stage of his power. It took awhile for superman to actually beat darkseid and i know it happened over a few matchups. Goku beat frieza in one matchup. And only in ssj1. Honestly a spirit bomb would have easily killed superman.Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
 Posts: 572 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/3/2013 4:47:59 PMPosted: 4 years agoAt 10/3/2013 4:36:26 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:At 10/3/2013 4:24:27 PM, Jack212 wrote:At 10/3/2013 3:45:48 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:Isn't ki magic and isn't superman weak to magic? He could not have won against the kamehameha or the spirit bomb if ki was magic.Superman is technically vulnerable to magic, but it really depends on the writer. He's withstood magic that's beaten Wonder Woman (who is resistant to certain types of magic).This whole debate is stupid. Superman is ridiculously overpowered even at his weakest.Ok darkseid: the major superman villian that you see causing a heckuva alot of catastrophes on earth. Darksied could really only match up to the dbz villian frieza if he had some jupiter sized death machine. Even so frieza is the guy that destroyed a planet with an energy ball the sized of our moon....while sitting in a levitating chair. And that was only the first stage of his power. It took awhile for superman to actually beat darkseid and i know it happened over a few matchups. Goku beat frieza in one matchup. And only in ssj1. Honestly a spirit bomb would have easily killed superman.There is no way that Superman is ever going to lose to Goku. Thor is far more powerful than Superman, yet Superman still beat him in JLA/Avengers crossover. Why? Because Superman is more popular. Superman might tie with Goku, but he's never going to lose to him.
 Posts: 5,923 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/3/2013 4:53:52 PMPosted: 4 years agoAt 10/3/2013 4:47:59 PM, Jack212 wrote:At 10/3/2013 4:36:26 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:At 10/3/2013 4:24:27 PM, Jack212 wrote:At 10/3/2013 3:45:48 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:Isn't ki magic and isn't superman weak to magic? He could not have won against the kamehameha or the spirit bomb if ki was magic.Superman is technically vulnerable to magic, but it really depends on the writer. He's withstood magic that's beaten Wonder Woman (who is resistant to certain types of magic).This whole debate is stupid. Superman is ridiculously overpowered even at his weakest.Ok darkseid: the major superman villian that you see causing a heckuva alot of catastrophes on earth. Darksied could really only match up to the dbz villian frieza if he had some jupiter sized death machine. Even so frieza is the guy that destroyed a planet with an energy ball the sized of our moon....while sitting in a levitating chair. And that was only the first stage of his power. It took awhile for superman to actually beat darkseid and i know it happened over a few matchups. Goku beat frieza in one matchup. And only in ssj1. Honestly a spirit bomb would have easily killed superman.There is no way that Superman is ever going to lose to Goku. Thor is far more powerful than Superman, yet Superman still beat him in JLA/Avengers crossover. Why? Because Superman is more popular. Superman might tie with Goku, but he's never going to lose to him.Universal spirit bomb and used as a bloody kid...literally. This isn't just some attack it is all of the universe ki collected in one massive energy ball no physical energy but spiritual energy. A universal spirit bb would tear through superman and the sun. The one thing i hated about the death battle is gokus final attack. In almost every ending battle goku's final attack was the spirit bomb.Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
 Posts: 9,112 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/4/2013 5:48:54 AMPosted: 4 years agoAt 10/3/2013 4:53:52 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:At 10/3/2013 4:47:59 PM, Jack212 wrote:At 10/3/2013 4:36:26 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:At 10/3/2013 4:24:27 PM, Jack212 wrote:At 10/3/2013 3:45:48 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:Isn't ki magic and isn't superman weak to magic? He could not have won against the kamehameha or the spirit bomb if ki was magic.Superman is technically vulnerable to magic, but it really depends on the writer. He's withstood magic that's beaten Wonder Woman (who is resistant to certain types of magic).This whole debate is stupid. Superman is ridiculously overpowered even at his weakest.Ok darkseid: the major superman villian that you see causing a heckuva alot of catastrophes on earth. Darksied could really only match up to the dbz villian frieza if he had some jupiter sized death machine. Even so frieza is the guy that destroyed a planet with an energy ball the sized of our moon....while sitting in a levitating chair. And that was only the first stage of his power. It took awhile for superman to actually beat darkseid and i know it happened over a few matchups. Goku beat frieza in one matchup. And only in ssj1. Honestly a spirit bomb would have easily killed superman.There is no way that Superman is ever going to lose to Goku. Thor is far more powerful than Superman, yet Superman still beat him in JLA/Avengers crossover. Why? Because Superman is more popular. Superman might tie with Goku, but he's never going to lose to him.Universal spirit bomb and used as a bloody kid...literally. This isn't just some attack it is all of the universe ki collected in one massive energy ball no physical energy but spiritual energy. A universal spirit bb would tear through superman and the sun. The one thing i hated about the death battle is gokus final attack. In almost every ending battle goku's final attack was the spirit bomb.I don't see Superman letting himself get hit by a spirit bomb, let alone giving Goku the time to make one."You assume I wouldn't want to burn this whole place to the ground." - lamerde https://i.imgflip.com...
 Posts: 5,923 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/4/2013 6:34:22 AMPosted: 4 years agoAt 10/4/2013 5:48:54 AM, Maikuru wrote:At 10/3/2013 4:53:52 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:At 10/3/2013 4:47:59 PM, Jack212 wrote:At 10/3/2013 4:36:26 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:At 10/3/2013 4:24:27 PM, Jack212 wrote:At 10/3/2013 3:45:48 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:Isn't ki magic and isn't superman weak to magic? He could not have won against the kamehameha or the spirit bomb if ki was magic.Superman is technically vulnerable to magic, but it really depends on the writer. He's withstood magic that's beaten Wonder Woman (who is resistant to certain types of magic).This whole debate is stupid. Superman is ridiculously overpowered even at his weakest.Ok darkseid: the major superman villian that you see causing a heckuva alot of catastrophes on earth. Darksied could really only match up to the dbz villian frieza if he had some jupiter sized death machine. Even so frieza is the guy that destroyed a planet with an energy ball the sized of our moon....while sitting in a levitating chair. And that was only the first stage of his power. It took awhile for superman to actually beat darkseid and i know it happened over a few matchups. Goku beat frieza in one matchup. And only in ssj1. Honestly a spirit bomb would have easily killed superman.There is no way that Superman is ever going to lose to Goku. Thor is far more powerful than Superman, yet Superman still beat him in JLA/Avengers crossover. Why? Because Superman is more popular. Superman might tie with Goku, but he's never going to lose to him.Universal spirit bomb and used as a bloody kid...literally. This isn't just some attack it is all of the universe ki collected in one massive energy ball no physical energy but spiritual energy. A universal spirit bb would tear through superman and the sun. The one thing i hated about the death battle is gokus final attack. In almost every ending battle goku's final attack was the spirit bomb.I don't see Superman letting himself get hit by a spirit bomb, let alone giving Goku the time to make one.So? Most times goku was making a spirit bomb they attacked him but he still held strong and made it workEpsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
 Posts: 4,325 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/4/2013 11:28:42 AMPosted: 4 years agoRemember: The spirit bomb is WILLINGLY GIVEN energy.Without someone saying :Hey people, put your arms above your heads!It's worthless.Affinity: Fire Class: Human Abilities: ???? Nac. WOAH, COLORED FONT!
 Posts: 2,487 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/5/2013 1:08:09 AMPosted: 4 years agoGuys, the whole point of this post is to show that he doesn't even NEED a spirit bomb to defeat Supes, All he needs is his Kamehameha.Debate me: Economic decision theory should be adjusted to include higher-order preferences for non-normative purposes http://www.debate.org... Do you really believe that? Or not? If you believe it, you should man up and defend it in a debate. -RoyLatham My Pet Fish is such a Douche- NiamC It's an app to meet friends and stuff, sort of like an adult club penguin- Thett3, describing Tinder
 Posts: 5,923 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/6/2013 4:19:01 PMPosted: 4 years agowhy am i even arguing this in the first place death battle has no real power. people only say that it decides it because its connected to the 2nd highest sub count user on youtube.Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
 Posts: 4,325 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/8/2013 10:04:42 AMPosted: 4 years agoAt 10/6/2013 4:19:01 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:why am i even arguing this in the first place death battle has no real power. people only say that it decides it because its connected to the 2nd highest sub count user on youtube.True dat.The sonic Vs mario debate was also a bunch of malarkay!Affinity: Fire Class: Human Abilities: ???? Nac. WOAH, COLORED FONT!
 Posts: 2,487 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/10/2013 2:23:42 PMPosted: 4 years agoAt 10/8/2013 10:04:42 AM, TheAntidoter wrote:At 10/6/2013 4:19:01 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:why am i even arguing this in the first place death battle has no real power. people only say that it decides it because its connected to the 2nd highest sub count user on youtube.True dat.The sonic Vs mario debate was also a bunch of malarkay!Is it even a competition there? Of course Sonic wins that one.Debate me: Economic decision theory should be adjusted to include higher-order preferences for non-normative purposes http://www.debate.org... Do you really believe that? Or not? If you believe it, you should man up and defend it in a debate. -RoyLatham My Pet Fish is such a Douche- NiamC It's an app to meet friends and stuff, sort of like an adult club penguin- Thett3, describing Tinder
 Posts: 4,325 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/10/2013 2:38:37 PMPosted: 4 years agoAt 10/10/2013 2:23:42 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:At 10/8/2013 10:04:42 AM, TheAntidoter wrote:At 10/6/2013 4:19:01 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:why am i even arguing this in the first place death battle has no real power. people only say that it decides it because its connected to the 2nd highest sub count user on youtube.True dat.The sonic Vs mario debate was also a bunch of malarkay!Is it even a competition there? Of course Sonic wins that one.There is indeed a competition, and that has it's roots in another show that likes to try to add "science" to gaming.I can't access the link right now, but the game theory episode on sonic articulates this better then I can at the moment.If I was on break, I might have time to debate you on this.However, not right now. I'm currently busy.Besides, POWERUPS. While sonic has many, It is of little doubt that with them all, mario would easily have the advantage there.Affinity: Fire Class: Human Abilities: ???? Nac. WOAH, COLORED FONT!
 Posts: 5,923 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/10/2013 6:38:41 PMPosted: 4 years agoAt 10/10/2013 2:38:37 PM, TheAntidoter wrote:At 10/10/2013 2:23:42 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:At 10/8/2013 10:04:42 AM, TheAntidoter wrote:At 10/6/2013 4:19:01 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:why am i even arguing this in the first place death battle has no real power. people only say that it decides it because its connected to the 2nd highest sub count user on youtube.True dat.The sonic Vs mario debate was also a bunch of malarkay!Is it even a competition there? Of course Sonic wins that one.There is indeed a competition, and that has it's roots in another show that likes to try to add "science" to gaming.I can't access the link right now, but the game theory episode on sonic articulates this better then I can at the moment.If I was on break, I might have time to debate you on this.However, not right now. I'm currently busy.Besides, POWERUPS. While sonic has many, It is of little doubt that with them all, mario would easily have the advantage there.if we're talking old videogame characters megaman x would beat bothEpsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
 Posts: 4,325 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/11/2013 11:06:10 AMPosted: 4 years agoAt 10/10/2013 6:38:41 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:At 10/10/2013 2:38:37 PM, TheAntidoter wrote:At 10/10/2013 2:23:42 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:At 10/8/2013 10:04:42 AM, TheAntidoter wrote:At 10/6/2013 4:19:01 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:why am i even arguing this in the first place death battle has no real power. people only say that it decides it because its connected to the 2nd highest sub count user on youtube.True dat.The sonic Vs mario debate was also a bunch of malarkay!Is it even a competition there? Of course Sonic wins that one.There is indeed a competition, and that has it's roots in another show that likes to try to add "science" to gaming.I can't access the link right now, but the game theory episode on sonic articulates this better then I can at the moment.If I was on break, I might have time to debate you on this.However, not right now. I'm currently busy.Besides, POWERUPS. While sonic has many, It is of little doubt that with them all, mario would easily have the advantage there.if we're talking old videogame characters megaman x would beat bothI haven't looked into him enough to know.Affinity: Fire Class: Human Abilities: ???? Nac. WOAH, COLORED FONT!
 Posts: 5 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 10/16/2013 3:54:04 PMPosted: 4 years agoAt 10/11/2013 11:06:10 AM, TheAntidoter wrote:At 10/10/2013 6:38:41 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:At 10/10/2013 2:38:37 PM, TheAntidoter wrote:At 10/10/2013 2:23:42 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:At 10/8/2013 10:04:42 AM, TheAntidoter wrote:At 10/6/2013 4:19:01 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:why am i even arguing this in the first place death battle has no real power. people only say that it decides it because its connected to the 2nd highest sub count user on youtube.True dat.The sonic Vs mario debate was also a bunch of malarkay!Is it even a competition there? Of course Sonic wins that one.There is indeed a competition, and that has it's roots in another show that likes to try to add "science" to gaming.I can't access the link right now, but the game theory episode on sonic articulates this better then I can at the moment.If I was on break, I might have time to debate you on this.However, not right now. I'm currently busy.Besides, POWERUPS. While sonic has many, It is of little doubt that with them all, mario would easily have the advantage there.if we're talking old videogame characters megaman x would beat bothI haven't looked into him enough to know.Megaman and his x counterpart basically has every power up Mario and Sonic has built into hiself, plus he can freeze time, lift anything, has every type of elemental power, and can spawn black holes. He is the OP in video games.