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What is the difference between NC-17 and R

cybertron1998
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12/19/2013 9:49:42 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/19/2013 2:29:12 PM, Adam2 wrote:
really?
Is there that much of a difference?

for one most nc 17 movies are release as unrated
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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12/20/2013 4:56:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/19/2013 9:49:42 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 12/19/2013 2:29:12 PM, Adam2 wrote:
really?
Is there that much of a difference?

for one most nc 17 movies are release as unrated

That's not true, at least I don't think it is.
For a movie to be "unrated", it would have to have at least one scene that was not submitted for rating. Look at most stand-up comedy DVDs, they are unrated (or they were when I worked at a video store).

I think most producers know what the likely rating of a scene is, so they don't submit it, then release it on video as unrated.
My work here is, finally, done.
cybertron1998
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12/20/2013 4:59:13 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/20/2013 4:56:24 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 12/19/2013 9:49:42 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 12/19/2013 2:29:12 PM, Adam2 wrote:
really?
Is there that much of a difference?

for one most nc 17 movies are release as unrated

That's not true, at least I don't think it is.
For a movie to be "unrated", it would have to have at least one scene that was not submitted for rating. Look at most stand-up comedy DVDs, they are unrated (or they were when I worked at a video store).

I think most producers know what the likely rating of a scene is, so they don't submit it, then release it on video as unrated.

a lot of movies that are nc 17 are released unrated because of the idea of what comes with the understanding of nc 17
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
Khaos_Mage
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12/20/2013 5:01:27 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/20/2013 4:59:13 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 12/20/2013 4:56:24 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 12/19/2013 9:49:42 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 12/19/2013 2:29:12 PM, Adam2 wrote:
really?
Is there that much of a difference?

for one most nc 17 movies are release as unrated

That's not true, at least I don't think it is.
For a movie to be "unrated", it would have to have at least one scene that was not submitted for rating. Look at most stand-up comedy DVDs, they are unrated (or they were when I worked at a video store).

I think most producers know what the likely rating of a scene is, so they don't submit it, then release it on video as unrated.

a lot of movies that are nc 17 are released unrated because of the idea of what comes with the understanding of nc 17

I suppose I misread your statement.
You are correct, the unrated version of a lot of movies would be NC-17 had they been rated.
My work here is, finally, done.
cybertron1998
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12/20/2013 5:16:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/20/2013 5:01:27 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 12/20/2013 4:59:13 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 12/20/2013 4:56:24 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 12/19/2013 9:49:42 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 12/19/2013 2:29:12 PM, Adam2 wrote:
really?
Is there that much of a difference?

for one most nc 17 movies are release as unrated

That's not true, at least I don't think it is.
For a movie to be "unrated", it would have to have at least one scene that was not submitted for rating. Look at most stand-up comedy DVDs, they are unrated (or they were when I worked at a video store).

I think most producers know what the likely rating of a scene is, so they don't submit it, then release it on video as unrated.

a lot of movies that are nc 17 are released unrated because of the idea of what comes with the understanding of nc 17

I suppose I misread your statement.
You are correct, the unrated version of a lot of movies would be NC-17 had they been rated.

god that sentence came out bad. you understood but i meant to say "the uneducated idea of what comes with the rating of nc-17"
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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12/20/2013 6:49:41 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/19/2013 2:29:12 PM, Adam2 wrote:
really?
Is there that much of a difference?

The difference is the subjective view of an old Christan conservative.
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12/20/2013 6:50:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/20/2013 6:49:41 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 12/19/2013 2:29:12 PM, Adam2 wrote:
really?
Is there that much of a difference?

The difference is the subjective view of an old Christan conservative.

MPAA ratings are almost entirely arbitrary.
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cybertron1998
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12/21/2013 8:31:23 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/20/2013 6:49:41 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 12/19/2013 2:29:12 PM, Adam2 wrote:
really?
Is there that much of a difference?

The difference is the subjective view of an old Christan conservative.

get this subjective crap outta here
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
Korashk
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12/21/2013 8:50:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/21/2013 8:31:23 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 12/20/2013 6:49:41 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 12/19/2013 2:29:12 PM, Adam2 wrote:
really?
Is there that much of a difference?

The difference is the subjective view of an old Christan conservative.

get this subjective crap outta here

I agree. If there's going to be a rating system it should at least be standardized.
When large numbers of otherwise-law abiding people break specific laws en masse, it's usually a fault that lies with the law. - Unknown
cybertron1998
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12/21/2013 8:51:40 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/21/2013 8:50:58 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 12/21/2013 8:31:23 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 12/20/2013 6:49:41 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 12/19/2013 2:29:12 PM, Adam2 wrote:
really?
Is there that much of a difference?

The difference is the subjective view of an old Christan conservative.

get this subjective crap outta here

I agree. If there's going to be a rating system it should at least be standardized.

no what you are saying is subjective crap
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
Korashk
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12/21/2013 8:56:47 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/21/2013 8:51:40 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 12/21/2013 8:50:58 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 12/21/2013 8:31:23 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 12/20/2013 6:49:41 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 12/19/2013 2:29:12 PM, Adam2 wrote:
really?
Is there that much of a difference?

The difference is the subjective view of an old Christan conservative.

get this subjective crap outta here

I agree. If there's going to be a rating system it should at least be standardized.

no what you are saying is subjective crap

Do you know how the MPAA rates movies?
When large numbers of otherwise-law abiding people break specific laws en masse, it's usually a fault that lies with the law. - Unknown
wrichcirw
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12/21/2013 9:05:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 12/19/2013 2:29:12 PM, Adam2 wrote:
really?
Is there that much of a difference?

If a movie is slapped with an NC-17 rating, that shuts out a gigantic swath of the viewing audience.

Minors can see rated-R movies with parental supervision, but they cannot see NC-17 movies under any condition. Basically, it severely limits the marketability of the movie, and most producers will attempt to treat it like the plague.
At 8/9/2013 9:41:24 AM, wrichcirw wrote:
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