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Machete is the best movie of 2010.

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11/1/2010 11:14:02 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Saw an early screening of Machete.

Definitely my favorite of the year.
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11/1/2010 11:39:34 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/1/2010 10:52:22 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Haven't seen it nor do I have much interest in seeing it.

Probably a good position to hold. You would not enjoy it.

Machete was an awesome movie that was brought down a notch by constantly shoving immigration reform down the throat of the audience. I don't mind a message to my movie but it was just too much.
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11/1/2010 11:51:07 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/1/2010 11:39:34 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 11/1/2010 10:52:22 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Haven't seen it nor do I have much interest in seeing it.

Probably a good position to hold. You would not enjoy it.

Machete was an awesome movie that was brought down a notch by constantly shoving immigration reform down the throat of the audience. I don't mind a message to my movie but it was just too much.

Probably done for critics/ratings and to gather a larger audience. Some people prefer movies that tackle real issues. I personally didn't have a problem with it. I just focused on the immense violence.

On another note: Did anybody know Danny Trejo (machete) was in Spykids? and that the director of spykids is the same as Machete? That is a radical change in movie genre..
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11/1/2010 11:52:23 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/1/2010 11:51:07 PM, Sobriquet wrote:

On another note: Did anybody know Danny Trejo (machete) was in Spykids? and that the director of spykids is the same as Machete? That is a radical change in movie genre..

Lol, I'd say.
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11/1/2010 11:57:16 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/1/2010 11:39:34 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 11/1/2010 10:52:22 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Haven't seen it nor do I have much interest in seeing it.

Probably a good position to hold. You would not enjoy it.

Machete was an awesome movie that was brought down a notch by constantly shoving immigration reform down the throat of the audience. I don't mind a message to my movie but it was just too much.

Are you kidding? That was the best part! Everything from the outlandish Deniro stuff to the subtle stuff like showing the drudgery of the guys in the kitchen working the jobs "we don't want to..." I love it when they make conservatives look like idiots in movies!
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11/2/2010 12:07:25 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Probably done for critics/ratings and to gather a larger audience. Some people prefer movies that tackle real issues. I personally didn't have a problem with it. I just focused on the immense violence.

The ridiculous violence was eye-candy, but that doesn't do it for me. For me, the real appeal was the acting. No one is going to credit the acting because of the silly blood scenes, but he does an excellent job in subtle ways... Like the part where she asks him what he has in his pants and he tells her "my machete..." That is just classic. That type of stuff goes unnoticed by most people because they just concentrate on the gag and don't realize no one could pull that off as cool as he can. Another great part was when the main antagonist first gets him in the car and asks him if he's ever killed anyone before, and he turns and looks at him... The main bad guy was really good too at acting like he wasn't acting well, if you know what I mean. Artists, including actors, have to learn the "rules" of acting, but it is the way in which you break these rules (after mastering them first) that makes a great piece of art like Machete. Deniro was alright with the W mannerisms as well.
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11/2/2010 12:15:55 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/2/2010 12:07:25 AM, Caramel wrote:
Probably done for critics/ratings and to gather a larger audience. Some people prefer movies that tackle real issues. I personally didn't have a problem with it. I just focused on the immense violence.

The ridiculous violence was eye-candy, but that doesn't do it for me. For me, the real appeal was the acting. No one is going to credit the acting because of the silly blood scenes, but he does an excellent job in subtle ways... Like the part where she asks him what he has in his pants and he tells her "my machete..." That is just classic. That type of stuff goes unnoticed by most people because they just concentrate on the gag and don't realize no one could pull that off as cool as he can. Another great part was when the main antagonist first gets him in the car and asks him if he's ever killed anyone before, and he turns and looks at him... The main bad guy was really good too at acting like he wasn't acting well, if you know what I mean. Artists, including actors, have to learn the "rules" of acting, but it is the way in which you break these rules (after mastering them first) that makes a great piece of art like Machete. Deniro was alright with the W mannerisms as well.

If you're a true fan of Robert Rodriguez's signature style, I suggest you check out Planet Terror. That movie is his masterpiece in my opinion.
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11/2/2010 12:37:58 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
As a huge fan of both Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez, I actually have to disagree. I was actually slightly disappointed. It was everything I thought it would be and nothing more, where as Inception really blew me away.
4/5 to Machete
4.5/5 to Inception
4/5 to Let Me In
3.5/5 to Saw VII
3.5/5 to Predators
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11/2/2010 12:59:03 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/2/2010 12:37:58 AM, tvellalott wrote:

3.5/5 to Saw VII

Really? I'd put it around 2.0.
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11/2/2010 1:20:04 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/2/2010 12:59:03 AM, Sobriquet wrote:
At 11/2/2010 12:37:58 AM, tvellalott wrote:

3.5/5 to Saw VII


Really? I'd put it around 2.0.

Well, I really liked the series as a whole. I love the "torture porn". It's not real after all. Anyway, because this movie finally answers all the questions and tied everything together, I enjoyed it.
I suppose it stems from early, early exposure to horror movies. I watched Nightmare on Elm street when I was 10, Se7en when it first came out when it was out on video, probably about 13. I just like to see everything the genre has to offer. The opening bit with the two guys and the chick was pretty intense. Her guts hit me right in the face.
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11/2/2010 1:28:20 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/2/2010 1:20:04 AM, tvellalott wrote:
At 11/2/2010 12:59:03 AM, Sobriquet wrote:
At 11/2/2010 12:37:58 AM, tvellalott wrote:

3.5/5 to Saw VII


Really? I'd put it around 2.0.

Well, I really liked the series as a whole. I love the "torture porn". It's not real after all. Anyway, because this movie finally answers all the questions and tied everything together, I enjoyed it.

Saw was alright... It got redundant after awhile though. btw, this is likely rumours, but somebody I was talking to yesterday actually said they were considering a Saw 8! Are you f*cking kidding me?!
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11/2/2010 1:33:41 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/2/2010 1:20:04 AM, tvellalott wrote:
At 11/2/2010 12:59:03 AM, Sobriquet wrote:
At 11/2/2010 12:37:58 AM, tvellalott wrote:

3.5/5 to Saw VII


Really? I'd put it around 2.0.

Well, I really liked the series as a whole. I love the "torture porn". It's not real after all. Anyway, because this movie finally answers all the questions and tied everything together, I enjoyed it.
I suppose it stems from early, early exposure to horror movies. I watched Nightmare on Elm street when I was 10, Se7en when it first came out when it was out on video, probably about 13. I just like to see everything the genre has to offer. The opening bit with the two guys and the chick was pretty intense. Her guts hit me right in the face.

I'm a fan of the saw series too. I've seen all 6 before the 7th came out. It was just really underwhelming. I thought it may be going in an upward direction since the 6th movies ratings jumped from the 5th (15%-45% give or take a couple %)
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11/2/2010 1:39:48 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/2/2010 1:28:20 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 11/2/2010 1:20:04 AM, tvellalott wrote:
At 11/2/2010 12:59:03 AM, Sobriquet wrote:
At 11/2/2010 12:37:58 AM, tvellalott wrote:

3.5/5 to Saw VII


Really? I'd put it around 2.0.

Well, I really liked the series as a whole. I love the "torture porn". It's not real after all. Anyway, because this movie finally answers all the questions and tied everything together, I enjoyed it.

Saw was alright... It got redundant after awhile though. btw, this is likely rumours, but somebody I was talking to yesterday actually said they were considering a Saw 8! Are you f*cking kidding me?!

Maybe. The writers of SAW, and the lionsgate big wigs said SAW3d was the end. It was a while ago that they acknowledged 7 would be the end.

Some of the people involved with the SAW movies are simply playing with the idea because some of the writers thought of some "amazing story". If SAW3d grossed a respectable amount of money, and lionsgate thinks its worth another installment, then SAW8 is a possibility. I dont really want to research the numbers for SAW3d right now.
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11/2/2010 1:41:50 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/2/2010 1:39:48 AM, Sobriquet wrote:

Maybe. The writers of SAW, and the lionsgate big wigs said SAW3d was the end. It was a while ago that they acknowledged 7 would be the end.

Some of the people involved with the SAW movies are simply playing with the idea because some of the writers thought of some "amazing story". If SAW3d grossed a respectable amount of money, and lionsgate thinks its worth another installment, then SAW8 is a possibility. I dont really want to research the numbers for SAW3d right now.

I think it's definitely done. Jigsaw died way back in like the third movie. I still have a hard time believing they kept it going this long. Making any more would probably just be a box office disaster.
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11/2/2010 1:50:34 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/2/2010 1:41:50 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 11/2/2010 1:39:48 AM, Sobriquet wrote:

Maybe. The writers of SAW, and the lionsgate big wigs said SAW3d was the end. It was a while ago that they acknowledged 7 would be the end.

Some of the people involved with the SAW movies are simply playing with the idea because some of the writers thought of some "amazing story". If SAW3d grossed a respectable amount of money, and lionsgate thinks its worth another installment, then SAW8 is a possibility. I dont really want to research the numbers for SAW3d right now.

I think it's definitely done. Jigsaw died way back in like the third movie. I still have a hard time believing they kept it going this long. Making any more would probably just be a box office disaster.

Your statement above is ignorant to the money hungry.

The Halloween time release will keep SAWs earnings decently high. Jigsaw didnt need to be alive. A lot of the interest in SAW movies has to do with the intricate and lethal puzzles people have to solve. My only issue is that the introduction of the 8th movie would likely make the plot unnecessarily complicated (more so than it is now).

Something new would need to be introduced. Something to recapture the attention of the audience. If the writers really did come up with an "amazing story" then showcasing that will likely be enough to interest or persuade a fair number of people to see it. The ratings for SAW6 were mostly attributed to a better plot, and tackling a modern issue while still keeping the favorite do-or-die puzzles.
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11/2/2010 6:12:20 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/2/2010 1:50:34 AM, Sobriquet wrote:
At 11/2/2010 1:41:50 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 11/2/2010 1:39:48 AM, Sobriquet wrote:

Maybe. The writers of SAW, and the lionsgate big wigs said SAW3d was the end. It was a while ago that they acknowledged 7 would be the end.

Some of the people involved with the SAW movies are simply playing with the idea because some of the writers thought of some "amazing story". If SAW3d grossed a respectable amount of money, and lionsgate thinks its worth another installment, then SAW8 is a possibility. I dont really want to research the numbers for SAW3d right now.

I think it's definitely done. Jigsaw died way back in like the third movie. I still have a hard time believing they kept it going this long. Making any more would probably just be a box office disaster.

Your statement above is ignorant to the money hungry.

The Halloween time release will keep SAWs earnings decently high. Jigsaw didnt need to be alive. A lot of the interest in SAW movies has to do with the intricate and lethal puzzles people have to solve. My only issue is that the introduction of the 8th movie would likely make the plot unnecessarily complicated (more so than it is now).

Something new would need to be introduced. Something to recapture the attention of the audience. If the writers really did come up with an "amazing story" then showcasing that will likely be enough to interest or persuade a fair number of people to see it. The ratings for SAW6 were mostly attributed to a better plot, and tackling a modern issue while still keeping the favorite do-or-die puzzles.

They easily COULD make another movie, based on the ending of number 7. However, they don't need to, unlike at the end of all of the previous movies since number 1. The story is full circle. Making another sequal would either have to reopen the circle or start a totally new circle, both of which could go down extremely badly with the fans.

I'd still go and see it.
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11/2/2010 7:32:48 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/2/2010 12:15:55 AM, Sobriquet wrote:
At 11/2/2010 12:07:25 AM, Caramel wrote:
Probably done for critics/ratings and to gather a larger audience. Some people prefer movies that tackle real issues. I personally didn't have a problem with it. I just focused on the immense violence.

The ridiculous violence was eye-candy, but that doesn't do it for me. For me, the real appeal was the acting. No one is going to credit the acting because of the silly blood scenes, but he does an excellent job in subtle ways... Like the part where she asks him what he has in his pants and he tells her "my machete..." That is just classic. That type of stuff goes unnoticed by most people because they just concentrate on the gag and don't realize no one could pull that off as cool as he can. Another great part was when the main antagonist first gets him in the car and asks him if he's ever killed anyone before, and he turns and looks at him... The main bad guy was really good too at acting like he wasn't acting well, if you know what I mean. Artists, including actors, have to learn the "rules" of acting, but it is the way in which you break these rules (after mastering them first) that makes a great piece of art like Machete. Deniro was alright with the W mannerisms as well.

If you're a true fan of Robert Rodriguez's signature style, I suggest you check out Planet Terror. That movie is his masterpiece in my opinion.

Will do.
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11/2/2010 7:33:55 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I actually didn't see any of the SAWs. Horror flicks make me antsy. Not what I want to feel when I'm already antsy from the ganja.
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11/2/2010 7:49:11 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/1/2010 11:51:07 PM, Sobriquet wrote:
At 11/1/2010 11:39:34 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 11/1/2010 10:52:22 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Haven't seen it nor do I have much interest in seeing it.

Probably a good position to hold. You would not enjoy it.

Machete was an awesome movie that was brought down a notch by constantly shoving immigration reform down the throat of the audience. I don't mind a message to my movie but it was just too much.

Probably done for critics/ratings and to gather a larger audience. Some people prefer movies that tackle real issues. I personally didn't have a problem with it. I just focused on the immense violence.

I don't mind that the movie addressed the issue. I mind that most of the non-violent parts did nothing but address the issue.

On another note: Did anybody know Danny Trejo (machete) was in Spykids? and that the director of spykids is the same as Machete? That is a radical change in movie genre..

Danny Trejo is in everything.
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11/2/2010 7:50:58 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/2/2010 7:33:55 PM, Caramel wrote:
I actually didn't see any of the SAWs. Horror flicks make me antsy. Not what I want to feel when I'm already antsy from the ganja.

I don't think I would classify the Saw movies as horror. It's just some suspenseful parts with a lot of people getting murdered in creative ways.
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11/2/2010 8:48:49 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
The Saw movies got redundant very fast. I saw the first and second one, then was really over it at that point.

Horror movies don't affect me much. I don't think I've ever seen a movie captures horror comparable to what you'd find in reality.