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11/21/2016 9:27:04 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
I just finished watching Nuit Noire, a French dramatization of the 1961 Paris massacre, for one of my classes. A tragic movie (and historical event), but a very good movie.

What foreign language films have you watched and found enjoyable?
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11/21/2016 1:02:48 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 11/21/2016 9:27:04 AM, SolonKR wrote:
I just finished watching Nuit Noire, a French dramatization of the 1961 Paris massacre, for one of my classes. A tragic movie (and historical event), but a very good movie.

What foreign language films have you watched and found enjoyable?

We watched a part of a french film last year in French III, I think it was about the Holocaust (that or I'm thinking of something we watched in a different class, in which case the film that I watched in French was Le Petite Prince)
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11/21/2016 4:03:31 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
I recently went to a friends house and found them watching a dubbed version of Oceans 12 (in Italian) which was very funny to watch.An actor would say his lines and stop talking while the soundtrack would continue to make him speak and vice versa.As I watched the film a thought occurred to me.Clooney,Pitt,Damon,Jolie,Aniston and Zellweger are all rated as "international stars" and my thought was, why?.When the aboves film are globally released they are dubbed or subtitled and in Oceans 12 I was listening to unknown actors saying the lines.So how are they "international stars" when they aren't delivering the lines in their films?.Is it all hype?.Can anyone reading this forum name a non-English speaking "international star" that English speaking peoples would go in droves to see on a red carpet?.
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11/21/2016 9:57:04 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
Love Me If You Dare is probably my favourite film ever. French film. Ebert figured the protagonists were psychopaths though lol.

Besides that, there's a bunch of Korean ones. I Saw The Devil. The Man from Nowhere. Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance. Koreans do violence in a real intense way.
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11/21/2016 9:58:23 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
There's another French one, I can't think of it though. French for love movies; Koreans for violence.
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11/21/2016 10:02:37 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
Oldboy, of course - for the Koreans.
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11/22/2016 12:29:13 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 11/21/2016 9:27:04 AM, SolonKR wrote:
I just finished watching Nuit Noire, a French dramatization of the 1961 Paris massacre, for one of my classes. A tragic movie (and historical event), but a very good movie.

What foreign language films have you watched and found enjoyable?
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Blue Is The Warmest Color
Oldboy
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Ringu
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Funny Games
Let The Right One In
Infernal Affairs
Life Is Beautiful
The Kid With A Bike
Cinema Paradiso
The Bicycle Thief

I could go on.
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11/22/2016 4:23:05 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 11/21/2016 9:27:04 AM, SolonKR wrote:
I just finished watching Nuit Noire, a French dramatization of the 1961 Paris massacre, for one of my classes. A tragic movie (and historical event), but a very good movie.

What foreign language films have you watched and found enjoyable?

I watch a lot of foreign films.

The best:

Kieslowski's Dekalog (one of the most astounding things ever made)

Tarkovsky's Solaris

Fellini's 8 1/2
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11/22/2016 3:52:57 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
I've been meaning to watch Tarkovsky's Stalker since forever but haven't managed to get around to it. Same with The Hunt.

Supposed to be two of the greatest movie days of all time though.
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11/22/2016 5:42:16 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 11/21/2016 9:27:04 AM, SolonKR wrote:
I just finished watching Nuit Noire, a French dramatization of the 1961 Paris massacre, for one of my classes. A tragic movie (and historical event), but a very good movie.

What foreign language films have you watched and found enjoyable?

Pan's Labyrinth, REC, and Downfall.
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11/23/2016 1:34:38 AM
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Mongol was pretty good
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12/1/2016 6:31:02 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 11/22/2016 3:50:21 PM, Lynx_N wrote:
Seven Samurai, by Akira Kurosawa, 1954

Just saw this for the first time in a theatre today - ASTOUNDING film. In the past week, I've also seen Rashomon, Throne of Blood, and Yojimbo. All are masterpieces. I plan on seeing as many more as I can at a theatre - the theme runs for a few more weeks.
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12/1/2016 6:32:12 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 11/22/2016 3:52:57 PM, Devilry wrote:
I've been meaning to watch Tarkovsky's Stalker since forever but haven't managed to get around to it. Same with The Hunt.

Supposed to be two of the greatest movie days of all time though.

Haven't seen Stalker yet, but Solaris is exactly what I want in a sci-fi movie. I hated 2001, and think that Solaris far, far surpasses it.
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12/1/2016 3:57:23 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 12/1/2016 6:31:02 AM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 11/22/2016 3:50:21 PM, Lynx_N wrote:
Seven Samurai, by Akira Kurosawa, 1954

Just saw this for the first time in a theatre today - ASTOUNDING film. In the past week, I've also seen Rashomon, Throne of Blood, and Yojimbo. All are masterpieces. I plan on seeing as many more as I can at a theatre - the theme runs for a few more weeks.

The one's who think they've seen drama haven't seen anything if they've missed out on Kurosawa.
The seventh seal by Bergman is also up there, but doesn't quite cut it compared to Kurosawa IMO.
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12/2/2016 2:43:24 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 12/1/2016 3:57:23 PM, Lynx_N wrote:
At 12/1/2016 6:31:02 AM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 11/22/2016 3:50:21 PM, Lynx_N wrote:
Seven Samurai, by Akira Kurosawa, 1954

Just saw this for the first time in a theatre today - ASTOUNDING film. In the past week, I've also seen Rashomon, Throne of Blood, and Yojimbo. All are masterpieces. I plan on seeing as many more as I can at a theatre - the theme runs for a few more weeks.

The one's who think they've seen drama haven't seen anything if they've missed out on Kurosawa.
The seventh seal by Bergman is also up there, but doesn't quite cut it compared to Kurosawa IMO.
Enjoy your theme weeks, quality time well spent.

Saw Red Beard this morning, will probably see the new documentary on Mifune tomorrow - all I have to say is WOW.
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12/2/2016 5:34:43 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 12/2/2016 2:43:24 AM, ShabShoral wrote:

Saw Red Beard this morning, will probably see the new documentary on Mifune tomorrow - all I have to say is WOW.

Now I have to check out Red Beard also, many thanks.
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12/3/2016 3:39:07 AM
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Rashoman. Throne of Blood. Geisha.
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12/13/2016 12:59:01 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 12/3/2016 3:39:07 AM, GrimlyF wrote:
Rashoman. Throne of Blood. Geisha.

This thread has been decided: Kurosawa is the winner.
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12/16/2016 6:27:35 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 11/22/2016 4:23:05 AM, ShabShoral wrote:
Kieslowski's Dekalog (one of the most astounding things ever made)

This is pretty legit.

Have you watched any Wong Kar Wai?
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12/16/2016 7:01:56 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 12/16/2016 6:27:35 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 11/22/2016 4:23:05 AM, ShabShoral wrote:
Kieslowski's Dekalog (one of the most astounding things ever made)

This is pretty legit.
I watched the entire thing (minus 5 & 6, though I'd seen Short Film about Love + Killing before, plus I had class) in one day at a theatre when the 4k restoration came out. One of my favourite experiences.
Have you watched any Wong Kar Wai?

I have not. Any recommendations?
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Extra shoutout to Shab for his excellent taste of film.
[...] he is fantastic company"

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Yojimbo - Mifune"

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12/16/2016 7:20:55 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 12/16/2016 7:01:56 PM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 12/16/2016 6:27:35 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 11/22/2016 4:23:05 AM, ShabShoral wrote:
Kieslowski's Dekalog (one of the most astounding things ever made)

This is pretty legit.
I watched the entire thing (minus 5 & 6, though I'd seen Short Film about Love + Killing before, plus I had class) in one day at a theatre when the 4k restoration came out. One of my favourite experiences.

Excellent choice. I'm yet to see it, but I've heard great things about it from friends.
Have you watched any Wong Kar Wai?

I have not. Any recommendations?
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12/16/2016 7:28:46 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 12/16/2016 7:01:56 PM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 12/16/2016 6:27:35 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
Have you watched any Wong Kar Wai?

I have not. Any recommendations?

Yes, all of them.

I'm not sure where you should start, but I'd suggest this:

Watch Chungking Express before Fallen Angels. These two movies exemplify his earlier style, with Fallen Angels being it's apotheosis.

Watch In The Mood For Love before 2046. This exemplifies a later style, again with 2046 being the greatest film ever made (in my opinion).

You could get a quick taste of his style with one of the two commercials he's directed. Check out this one for a Phillips TV:

https://vimeo.com...
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12/16/2016 7:37:57 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
Here's an essay I wrote on 2046 in my first year of undergrad. Something to wet your appetite. Also, you can see how hilariously pretentious I was when I was 18, lol.

Narrative signs emerge: secrets, memories, androids, tears and rain, the hotel rooms, the beautiful qipaos, even the colors red and green and Christmas dinner. It's as if every image, every musical phrase, is trying to tell us something. But meaning eludes perception: 2046 proffers false signs that emerge and disappear at the precise moment of enunciation so as to foreground the affective movement of sound and image. 2046 is a truly filmic story that moves according to flows and affects rather than cause and effect; it privileges sensual affect over meaning.

To interpret 2046, then, may in fact be impossible, a misguided attempt. Because, as critic Dissanayake notes, Wong is obsessed with "striking camera angles, abrupt cuts, visual ellipses, sudden dislocations." Critics have often compared him to an MTV aesthetic. And such a comparison is not altogether inaccurate: Wong"s primary interest is in sound and image, not narrative. It is not a coincidence, then, that he has been criticized for weak stories"he is not first and foremost a storyteller.

2046 opens in a striking visual manner, as the camera moves away from what is a deeply affective image that belies any attempt at explanation. And the music, not a background to the image but a central part of the film, evokes a pounding climactic feeling"the viewer feels the breathtaking force of a life emerging as sound and image meet at impossible angles. But the expectations of Wong"s film are never met: the film immediately cuts to the opening credits. Yet these credits themselves operate as a part of this affective force, their visual resonance sliding along with the music.

On the surface, 2046 seems to be a story of love and lost memories: Chow is a "ladies man" who, in the film"s story, explores relationships with four different women, both in his life and in his fictional story "2046." But there really is no plot. Many things happen"sexual relations, Christmas dinners, secrets whispered and hidden"but these events serve less to further the narrative so much as to illuminate the affective and conceptual flows and forces of the characters. Wong never lets us identify with any pre-determined categories; his film leads us astray of ourselves, of any established way of going. As each woman leaves his life, Chow"s narrative voice-over notes, "As I recall, that's the very last time we saw each other." And yet, each woman enters his life again; it is not the "last time." Wong thus calls into question the moment of narration, the temporality in which the narrator speaks. When and where is this happening?

The film"s trajectory can never be predicted; its images are constantly challenging expectations as Wong ceaselessly closes the gap between the viewer and the viewed. But by abandoning any signifiers, Wong is not abandoning concepts, sense, and language. Rather, he introduces new modes of making sense of things, ways of becoming 2046.

What exactly is 2046? We can never identify with it: it is a hotel room, a date in the future, an elusive place, a fictional story, a memory. "Everyone who goes to 2046 has the same intention," Chow says, "they want to recapture lost memories. Because in 2046 nothing ever changes." But before Wong lets us identify 2046 as a signifier for permanence, for a state of being, he lifts the ground from under our feet: "But nobody knows if that is true or not," Chow states, "because no one has ever come back." Again, what is 2046? No ordinary sense emerges. It is a place that no one in the "real" world has ever known.

What ultimately emerges from 2046 is a world in which a filmic language dictates everything. In Wong"s world, the relation of characters to their memories exists only in image and music. At the beginning, before any sense has emerged, Chow says, "Whenever someone asked why I left 2046, I always gave them some vague answer. It was easier." But Chow has never left; he is haunted by 2046, his memories, throughout the entire film. Because he occupies an elusive and complex space that cannot be understood through a simple ambivalence of permanence/impermanence, memory/reality, Chow"s character can never be summed up.

As he says at another point in the film, "maybe I"m not such a nice guy." Of course he's not: he spends the film hurting woman after woman while attempting to find a substitute for an image of his past"the woman with the black glove, Su. But at the end, we learn that Su herself is a substitute for another, unnamed woman. Chow"s memories are only images, traces.

The first part of the film"s story is indeed aptly titled "All Memories are Traces of Tears." But memory, for Wong, is never identified. It is the whole point of the film: memories are traces, images and sounds, sensual affects (tears). And the film indeed performs memory as an effect in the very grain of its image and sound.
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12/16/2016 9:05:36 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 12/16/2016 7:28:46 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 12/16/2016 7:01:56 PM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 12/16/2016 6:27:35 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
Have you watched any Wong Kar Wai?

I have not. Any recommendations?

Yes, all of them.

I'm not sure where you should start, but I'd suggest this:

Watch Chungking Express before Fallen Angels. These two movies exemplify his earlier style, with Fallen Angels being it's apotheosis.

Watch In The Mood For Love before 2046. This exemplifies a later style, again with 2046 being the greatest film ever made (in my opinion).

You could get a quick taste of his style with one of the two commercials he's directed. Check out this one for a Phillips TV:

https://vimeo.com...

Many thanks. You've certainly gotten me interested.
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12/16/2016 9:05:57 PM
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At 12/16/2016 7:20:55 PM, missbailey8 wrote:
At 12/16/2016 7:01:56 PM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 12/16/2016 6:27:35 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 11/22/2016 4:23:05 AM, ShabShoral wrote:
Kieslowski's Dekalog (one of the most astounding things ever made)

This is pretty legit.
I watched the entire thing (minus 5 & 6, though I'd seen Short Film about Love + Killing before, plus I had class) in one day at a theatre when the 4k restoration came out. One of my favourite experiences.

Excellent choice. I'm yet to see it, but I've heard great things about it from friends.
By the end you'll know basic Polish.
Have you watched any Wong Kar Wai?

I have not. Any recommendations?
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"Well, long story short, the video I thought was of a wedding was of kinky lesbian porn"

"Feminists may just be some of the most petty people ever."

"Shoutout to [...] Shab for being entertaining to listen to in Hangouts.

Extra shoutout to Shab for his excellent taste of film.
[...] he is fantastic company"

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Yojimbo - Mifune"

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12/16/2016 9:09:22 PM
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For anyone who's a fan of cinema: https://www.filmstruck.com...

Their selection is fairly small right now, but I have high hopes, especially since Criterion is onboard. They've got Tarkovsky, Kurosawa, Wenders, etc... and also Wong Kar Wai (@FT). Can't wait for it to grow more.
"If it comes down to Trump or Clinton, I'd vote Trump."

"Well, long story short, the video I thought was of a wedding was of kinky lesbian porn"

"Feminists may just be some of the most petty people ever."

"Shoutout to [...] Shab for being entertaining to listen to in Hangouts.

Extra shoutout to Shab for his excellent taste of film.
[...] he is fantastic company"

"Stray Dog - Mifune
Yojimbo - Mifune"

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12/16/2016 9:53:29 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 12/16/2016 9:09:22 PM, ShabShoral wrote:
For anyone who's a fan of cinema: https://www.filmstruck.com...

Their selection is fairly small right now, but I have high hopes, especially since Criterion is onboard. They've got Tarkovsky, Kurosawa, Wenders, etc... and also Wong Kar Wai (@FT). Can't wait for it to grow more.

Dude, go watch Chungking Express. I want to talk about Wong Kar Wai with someone.
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12/16/2016 10:27:26 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 12/16/2016 9:53:29 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 12/16/2016 9:09:22 PM, ShabShoral wrote:
For anyone who's a fan of cinema: https://www.filmstruck.com...

Their selection is fairly small right now, but I have high hopes, especially since Criterion is onboard. They've got Tarkovsky, Kurosawa, Wenders, etc... and also Wong Kar Wai (@FT). Can't wait for it to grow more.

Dude, go watch Chungking Express. I want to talk about Wong Kar Wai with someone.

Or In The Mood For Love. That was the first I saw. Absolutely fvcking brilliant.
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