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Holiday Mafia - Day Phase 3

Danielle
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3/15/2011 11:44:06 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
LIVING

01. Vi
03. m93samman
04. innomen
05. Koopin
06. bluesteel
08. Alex
09. tvellalott
10. xxdarkxx
12. annhasle
13. Thaddeus

DECEASED

Mattrodstrom -- 4th of July, Town Vigilante
Timbeech -- Election Day, Mafia Politician

askbob -- You are April Fools Day, the day of fools! You are a third party player aligned with nobody but yourself. While the typical jester role requires you to be lynched during the day phase in order to fulfill your win condition, you can only win if you are killed at night by the mafia. You either take first place or lose -- good luck!

Chrysippus -- You are Christmas, the can't-help-but-dig-it holiday. Legend has it that Santa Clause double checks his list to see who's been naughty and nice. Likewise, you may investigate one player every night and determine their affiliation. You win with the town.

You need 6 votes to carry out a lynch.

The day phase will end on Thursday, March 16 at 6 pm CST.
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3/15/2011 11:47:25 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/15/2011 11:44:06 AM, Danielle wrote:
askbob -- You are April Fools Day, the day of fools! You are a third party player aligned with nobody but yourself. While the typical jester role requires you to be lynched during the day phase in order to fulfill your win condition, you can only win if you are killed at night by the mafia. You either take first place or lose -- good luck!

Bogusness!
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."
m93samman
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3/15/2011 11:59:29 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At this point I wouldn't trust askbob. He said he wanted to kill xxdarkxx, but he had neither a power role, investigative role, or even a connected role to where he knows of some other existing mafioso. This pretty much clears xxdarkxx in my opinion
: At 4/15/2011 5:29:37 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
: Pascal's wager is for poosies.
:
: I mean that sincerly, because it's basically an argument from poooosie.
:
: I'm pretty sure that's like a fallacy.. Argument ad Pussium or something like that.
m93samman
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3/15/2011 12:00:02 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/15/2011 11:59:29 AM, m93samman wrote:
At this point I wouldn't trust askbob. He said he wanted to kill xxdarkxx, but he had neither a power role, investigative role, or even a connected role to where he knows of some other existing mafioso. This pretty much clears xxdarkxx in my opinion

That is, I wouldn't trust his past analysis. I know he's dead now, obviously :P
: At 4/15/2011 5:29:37 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
: Pascal's wager is for poosies.
:
: I mean that sincerly, because it's basically an argument from poooosie.
:
: I'm pretty sure that's like a fallacy.. Argument ad Pussium or something like that.
innomen
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3/15/2011 12:57:29 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Sucks losing investigator.

Too convenient Samman to be asked to be investigated, and our investigator was taken while you were under suspicion. I guess you had no way of knowing that Chrys as an investigator, but you're still suspicious to me.

Not sure if we have both lie detector and investigator but it's worth a shot anyway.

I win with the town.
Vi_Veri
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3/15/2011 1:29:03 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/15/2011 12:57:29 PM, innomen wrote:
Sucks losing investigator.

Too convenient Samman to be asked to be investigated, and our investigator was taken while you were under suspicion. I guess you had no way of knowing that Chrys as an investigator, but you're still suspicious to me.

Not sure if we have both lie detector and investigator but it's worth a shot anyway.

I win with the town.

If you acknowledge that there was no way of knowing that Chrys was the investigator, then why do you make your claim?

Anyway - this pretty much blows. Our vigilante and cop are dead. Everyone should write that they win with the town, though, as inno suggested. We may have a lie detector.

I win with the town.

Does ANYONE have an information they obtain from last night phase?
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innomen
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3/15/2011 1:35:51 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/15/2011 11:59:29 AM, m93samman wrote:
At this point I wouldn't trust askbob. He said he wanted to kill xxdarkxx, but he had neither a power role, investigative role, or even a connected role to where he knows of some other existing mafioso. This pretty much clears xxdarkxx in my opinion

Why would it clear xxdarkxx? I wasn't super suspicious of him, but it doesn't "clear" him at all.
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3/15/2011 1:42:07 PM
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m93, why would you ask to be investigated last DP? Seems suspicious - a townie would advise the town they are wasting an investigation; only a godfather or a total n00b would ask to be investigated...

You claimed tracker though, right? Who have you tracked so far and who did they visit?
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
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3/15/2011 1:47:11 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
And I said this DP1 already, but for convenience:

I win with the town
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
annhasle
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3/15/2011 1:51:28 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
So... This sucks. A lot. Since both the cop and vig are now dead, I agree with Vi -- we should claim our alignment and go after who is still suspicious. Didn't someone have a list of suspects from last day phase?

I win with the town.
I'm not back. This idiot just upset me which made me stop lurking.
innomen
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3/15/2011 1:54:25 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/15/2011 1:51:28 PM, annhasle wrote:
So... This sucks. A lot. Since both the cop and vig are now dead, I agree with Vi -- we should claim our alignment and go after who is still suspicious. Didn't someone have a list of suspects from last day phase?

I win with the town.

yeah, askbob
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3/15/2011 1:56:29 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/15/2011 1:35:51 PM, innomen wrote:
At 3/15/2011 11:59:29 AM, m93samman wrote:
At this point I wouldn't trust askbob. He said he wanted to kill xxdarkxx, but he had neither a power role, investigative role, or even a connected role to where he knows of some other existing mafioso. This pretty much clears xxdarkxx in my opinion

Why would it clear xxdarkxx? I wasn't super suspicious of him, but it doesn't "clear" him at all.

Not exactly the best of logic... I'm not sure. I've been really short of sleep recently. Ignore that post
: At 4/15/2011 5:29:37 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
: Pascal's wager is for poosies.
:
: I mean that sincerly, because it's basically an argument from poooosie.
:
: I'm pretty sure that's like a fallacy.. Argument ad Pussium or something like that.
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3/15/2011 1:57:09 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/15/2011 1:56:29 PM, m93samman wrote:
At 3/15/2011 1:35:51 PM, innomen wrote:
At 3/15/2011 11:59:29 AM, m93samman wrote:
At this point I wouldn't trust askbob. He said he wanted to kill xxdarkxx, but he had neither a power role, investigative role, or even a connected role to where he knows of some other existing mafioso. This pretty much clears xxdarkxx in my opinion

Why would it clear xxdarkxx? I wasn't super suspicious of him, but it doesn't "clear" him at all.

Not exactly the best of logic... I'm not sure. I've been really short of sleep recently. Ignore that post

And?
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3/15/2011 1:58:35 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/15/2011 1:56:29 PM, m93samman wrote:
At 3/15/2011 1:35:51 PM, innomen wrote:
At 3/15/2011 11:59:29 AM, m93samman wrote:
At this point I wouldn't trust askbob. He said he wanted to kill xxdarkxx, but he had neither a power role, investigative role, or even a connected role to where he knows of some other existing mafioso. This pretty much clears xxdarkxx in my opinion

Why would it clear xxdarkxx? I wasn't super suspicious of him, but it doesn't "clear" him at all.

Not exactly the best of logic... I'm not sure. I've been really short of sleep recently. Ignore that post

Your tracks plz . . .

The quicker the better. If you're telling the truth, you obviously wouldn't need time to think about it.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
m93samman
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3/15/2011 1:58:46 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Anyways, as far as my tracking goes, here's what I got.

NP1: Tracked innomen, who visited no one. Likely he was roleblocked, bullet proof, or some other non-action role.

NP2: Tracked alex, also visited no one. Vanilla? Maybe Columbus day or something.

That limits us down to a few people; in particular, Vi, xxdarkxx (at the highest suspicion levels for relatively low activity), and bluesteel (fairly aggressive). Not sure what to make of it though
: At 4/15/2011 5:29:37 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
: Pascal's wager is for poosies.
:
: I mean that sincerly, because it's basically an argument from poooosie.
:
: I'm pretty sure that's like a fallacy.. Argument ad Pussium or something like that.
m93samman
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3/15/2011 1:59:18 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/15/2011 1:57:09 PM, innomen wrote:

And?

My tracking results are in the above post
: At 4/15/2011 5:29:37 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
: Pascal's wager is for poosies.
:
: I mean that sincerly, because it's basically an argument from poooosie.
:
: I'm pretty sure that's like a fallacy.. Argument ad Pussium or something like that.
m93samman
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3/15/2011 2:00:04 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/15/2011 1:58:35 PM, bluesteel wrote:

Your tracks plz . . .

The quicker the better. If you're telling the truth, you obviously wouldn't need time to think about it.

lol I put them up 10 seconds after you. Don't rush me, I know what I'm doing, methinks
: At 4/15/2011 5:29:37 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
: Pascal's wager is for poosies.
:
: I mean that sincerly, because it's basically an argument from poooosie.
:
: I'm pretty sure that's like a fallacy.. Argument ad Pussium or something like that.
innomen
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3/15/2011 2:01:19 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/15/2011 2:00:04 PM, m93samman wrote:
At 3/15/2011 1:58:35 PM, bluesteel wrote:

Your tracks plz . . .

The quicker the better. If you're telling the truth, you obviously wouldn't need time to think about it.

lol I put them up 10 seconds after you. Don't rush me, I know what I'm doing, methinks

and?.....
m93samman
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3/15/2011 2:03:00 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/15/2011 2:01:19 PM, innomen wrote:
At 3/15/2011 2:00:04 PM, m93samman wrote:
At 3/15/2011 1:58:35 PM, bluesteel wrote:

Your tracks plz . . .

The quicker the better. If you're telling the truth, you obviously wouldn't need time to think about it.

lol I put them up 10 seconds after you. Don't rush me, I know what I'm doing, methinks

and?.....

but.
: At 4/15/2011 5:29:37 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
: Pascal's wager is for poosies.
:
: I mean that sincerly, because it's basically an argument from poooosie.
:
: I'm pretty sure that's like a fallacy.. Argument ad Pussium or something like that.
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3/15/2011 2:04:05 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/15/2011 2:03:00 PM, m93samman wrote:
At 3/15/2011 2:01:19 PM, innomen wrote:
At 3/15/2011 2:00:04 PM, m93samman wrote:
At 3/15/2011 1:58:35 PM, bluesteel wrote:

Your tracks plz . . .

The quicker the better. If you're telling the truth, you obviously wouldn't need time to think about it.

lol I put them up 10 seconds after you. Don't rush me, I know what I'm doing, methinks

and?.....

but.

You win with.......
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3/15/2011 2:05:13 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/15/2011 2:01:19 PM, innomen wrote:
At 3/15/2011 2:00:04 PM, m93samman wrote:
At 3/15/2011 1:58:35 PM, bluesteel wrote:

Your tracks plz . . .

The quicker the better. If you're telling the truth, you obviously wouldn't need time to think about it.

lol I put them up 10 seconds after you. Don't rush me, I know what I'm doing, methinks

and?.....

I'm pretty sure he wants you to say you win with the town, but he's being really weird about it.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
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3/15/2011 2:06:53 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/15/2011 2:04:05 PM, innomen wrote:
At 3/15/2011 2:03:00 PM, m93samman wrote:
At 3/15/2011 2:01:19 PM, innomen wrote:
At 3/15/2011 2:00:04 PM, m93samman wrote:
At 3/15/2011 1:58:35 PM, bluesteel wrote:

Your tracks plz . . .

The quicker the better. If you're telling the truth, you obviously wouldn't need time to think about it.

lol I put them up 10 seconds after you. Don't rush me, I know what I'm doing, methinks

and?.....

but.

You win with.......

Oh my fault. Well I win with the town... but isn't that what a mafioso would say? I already claimed tracker, so I thought that was a given from DP1
: At 4/15/2011 5:29:37 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
: Pascal's wager is for poosies.
:
: I mean that sincerly, because it's basically an argument from poooosie.
:
: I'm pretty sure that's like a fallacy.. Argument ad Pussium or something like that.
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3/15/2011 2:09:17 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Inno, I'm guessing you're the lie detector?
: At 4/15/2011 5:29:37 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
: Pascal's wager is for poosies.
:
: I mean that sincerly, because it's basically an argument from poooosie.
:
: I'm pretty sure that's like a fallacy.. Argument ad Pussium or something like that.
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3/15/2011 2:10:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/15/2011 2:09:17 PM, m93samman wrote:
Inno, I'm guessing you're the lie detector?
: At 4/15/2011 5:29:37 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
: Pascal's wager is for poosies.
:
: I mean that sincerly, because it's basically an argument from poooosie.
:
: I'm pretty sure that's like a fallacy.. Argument ad Pussium or something like that.
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3/15/2011 2:12:07 PM
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At 3/15/2011 1:58:46 PM, m93samman wrote:
Anyways, as far as my tracking goes, here's what I got.

NP1: Tracked innomen, who visited no one. Likely he was roleblocked, bullet proof, or some other non-action role.

NP2: Tracked alex, also visited no one. Vanilla? Maybe Columbus day or something.

That limits us down to a few people; in particular, Vi, xxdarkxx (at the highest suspicion levels for relatively low activity), and bluesteel (fairly aggressive). Not sure what to make of it though

May i ask why you chose to track Alex and me? Neither of us were really the most suspicious.
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3/15/2011 2:14:33 PM
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Assuming inno and Alex confirm m93's tracks, we really have nothing to go on now.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)