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Zetsubou
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3/26/2011 6:29:21 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Welcome to Zetsubou's Death Note themed Mafia game. Please sign UP 20 are needed.

Innomen will be your co-mod - he will tend to DP threads and take in NP as well as me.

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Basics
> The objective of the town is to eliminate all non town fractions – the game ends in a town victory if they eliminate all the mafia.
> The objective of the mafia is to become at least 50% of the town's population.
> Third Party characters may or may not be in game but if they are, they will be taken into account in the above calculations.
> All roles and college groupings are randomly generated.

Customs
>This is a story mafia, a story with clues(-might be supported with a video) will be supplied with every DP.
> I will answer questions asked on the sign up thread up until the game starts, after that I will only answer them on personal Player-Moderator private messages.
> I am always right.
> The first DP and its story will be up in approximately 48 hours after list fill. DP timings will we given at the beginning of every DP. NP timings will be given at the beginning of every NP. Extensions are legitimate(on my and innomen's part) if given in the Game Private Message.
>The affiliation of the lynch victim will be given by me when the victim dies. INNOCENT=Win with the town; GUILTY= Win by other/antitown Objectives. Their role will be posted the following NP.
>No copy and pasting of your role.
>No prt sc-ing of any Pm Message your role. That means no screenshots or videos of any PM message.
>No abuse. The level of abuse tolerated is anything legal under DDOs Rules or what constitutes as 'cyber' criminal abuse in the first degree within the United States under ANY state.

New Rules
The Death Note
Every NP a player will be given the option to kill a player with the Death Note. The Death Note is given to a random living player regardless of affiliation. The member who receives the Death Note will be told at the beginning of each DP. The DN may be removed towards engame.

The Electoral System
The Electoral System is an alternative form a mafia used when it comes to games with political themes(this being a exception - investigation teams). The model was designed by our very own, wjmelements. The system works as follows:

There are colleges, in this game, 5.

The colleges are composed of 4 voters.

To lynch:
At least 3 of the colleges must have a majority voting for one player. E.h:

College 1 (VTL: Vi Veri)
Vi Veri (Player A, Player B, Player D) (3/4)
JBlake (Player C) (1/4)
College 2 (VTL: Vi Veri)
Vi Veri (Player G) (1/1)
[E, F, H are deceased]
College 3 (VTL:Vi Veri)
Vi Veri (Player I, Player J, Player K) (3/4)
Zetsubou (Player L) (1/4)
College 4 (VTL:JBlake)
JBlake (Player M, Player N, Player P) (3/4)
No Vote (Player O) (1/4)
College 5 (VTL:JBlake)
JBlake (Player Q, Player R, Player T) (3/3)
[S is deceased]

College 1, 2 & 3 have a majorities voting for Vi Veri (3/5). College 4 & 5 vote JBlake(2/5). Vi Veri Is lynched because the general town have a consensus.

If there is a tie (1v1v1v1v1) The side with a bigger individual majority within their side wins. E.g:

College 1 (VTL: Vi Veri)
Vi Veri (Player A, Player B, Player D) (3/4)
JBlake (Player C) (1/4)

College 2 (VTL: Vi Veri)
Vi Veri (Player E, Player F, Player G, Player H) (4/4)

College 3 (VTL: JBlake)
JBlake (Player J, Player M) (2/4)
Zetsubou (Player L) (1/4)

College 4 (VTL: JBlake)
JBlake (Player N, Player O, Player Q) (3/4)
No Vote (Player P) (1/4)

College 5(VTL:Tie)
JBlake (Player Q, Player T (2/4)
Vi Veri (Player R, Player T) 2/4)

Vi Veri (7/20) 35%
JBlake (8/20) 40%
Zetsubou (1/20) 5%
No Vote+Non Voters (2/20) - 10%

Since 40% is greater than 35%, 5% and 10%... JBlake is lynched.

In this model there can only be a no Lynch if nobody votes/votes for no lynch - one voter in enough.

The DP cannot end due to votes and ends only after the DP time limit is met, however if we are offline, voting can resume until we come online(under 12 hours best).

Questions?
'sup DDO -- july 2013
tvellalott
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3/26/2011 6:48:38 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
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Thaddeus
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3/26/2011 6:51:23 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/26/2011 6:48:38 AM, tvellalott wrote:
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LeafRod
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3/26/2011 12:25:54 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/26/2011 6:29:21 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
Innomen will be your co-mod - he will tend to DP threads and take in NP as well as me.

AKA pretty much be the mod.
innomen
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3/26/2011 12:57:00 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/26/2011 12:25:54 PM, LeafRod wrote:
At 3/26/2011 6:29:21 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
Innomen will be your co-mod - he will tend to DP threads and take in NP as well as me.

AKA pretty much be the mod.

That's what i'm afraid of. I'm looking at how complicated he's made this game.
bluesteel
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3/26/2011 1:04:40 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/26/2011 12:57:00 PM, innomen wrote:
At 3/26/2011 12:25:54 PM, LeafRod wrote:
At 3/26/2011 6:29:21 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
Innomen will be your co-mod - he will tend to DP threads and take in NP as well as me.

AKA pretty much be the mod.

That's what i'm afraid of. I'm looking at how complicated he's made this game.

Yeah. Make sure he clearly tells you: 1) how long someone can be inactive before being replaced (48 hours is typical); 2) under what conditions the Death Note leaves the game; 3) make sure you understand his electoral college voting system. What happens in the event of a tie, for example (like there are only 4 electoral colleges - you could start with 5, but one could get killed off completely).

The more you understand the rules the better, since it defeats the point of having multiple mods if the rules are so complicated that you keep needing to wait on Zets to ask him questions.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
innomen
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3/26/2011 1:07:14 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/26/2011 1:04:40 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/26/2011 12:57:00 PM, innomen wrote:
At 3/26/2011 12:25:54 PM, LeafRod wrote:
At 3/26/2011 6:29:21 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
Innomen will be your co-mod - he will tend to DP threads and take in NP as well as me.

AKA pretty much be the mod.

That's what i'm afraid of. I'm looking at how complicated he's made this game.

Yeah. Make sure he clearly tells you: 1) how long someone can be inactive before being replaced (48 hours is typical); 2) under what conditions the Death Note leaves the game; 3) make sure you understand his electoral college voting system. What happens in the event of a tie, for example (like there are only 4 electoral colleges - you could start with 5, but one could get killed off completely).

The more you understand the rules the better, since it defeats the point of having multiple mods if the rules are so complicated that you keep needing to wait on Zets to ask him questions.

I didn't exactly expect to sign up for this.
bluesteel
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3/26/2011 1:12:56 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/26/2011 1:07:14 PM, innomen wrote:


I didn't exactly expect to sign up for this.

lol, I feel for ya. It looks like with this whole "story of clues" deal that Zetsubou will have to start all the DP's himself, so you probably just need to make sure you understand the electoral college system so you can update the vote counts properly.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
mongoose
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3/26/2011 1:14:30 PM
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It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
innomen
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3/26/2011 1:15:51 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/26/2011 1:12:56 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/26/2011 1:07:14 PM, innomen wrote:


I didn't exactly expect to sign up for this.

lol, I feel for ya. It looks like with this whole "story of clues" deal that Zetsubou will have to start all the DP's himself, so you probably just need to make sure you understand the electoral college system so you can update the vote counts properly.

I think your impulse on that other thread may have been justified.
bluesteel
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3/26/2011 1:31:30 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/26/2011 1:15:51 PM, innomen wrote:
At 3/26/2011 1:12:56 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/26/2011 1:07:14 PM, innomen wrote:


I didn't exactly expect to sign up for this.

lol, I feel for ya. It looks like with this whole "story of clues" deal that Zetsubou will have to start all the DP's himself, so you probably just need to make sure you understand the electoral college system so you can update the vote counts properly.

I think your impulse on that other thread may have been justified.

Yeah :/ I like Death Note, and I trust that you'll keep the game moving along, but this game just looks like too much of a mess to get into. A voting system that most people hate in real life? The mod can randomly decide to stop using the Death Note if it gives one team too much of an advantage? An OP story that is either useless or too explicit/outs mafia too easily?
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
bluesteel
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3/26/2011 1:33:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
But yeah, w/e. I'll stop complaining. It's quite possible all those elements will turn out to be really fun. Who knows.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
innomen
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3/26/2011 1:36:12 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/26/2011 1:31:30 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/26/2011 1:15:51 PM, innomen wrote:
At 3/26/2011 1:12:56 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/26/2011 1:07:14 PM, innomen wrote:


I didn't exactly expect to sign up for this.

lol, I feel for ya. It looks like with this whole "story of clues" deal that Zetsubou will have to start all the DP's himself, so you probably just need to make sure you understand the electoral college system so you can update the vote counts properly.

I think your impulse on that other thread may have been justified.

Yeah :/ I like Death Note, and I trust that you'll keep the game moving along, but this game just looks like too much of a mess to get into. A voting system that most people hate in real life? The mod can randomly decide to stop using the Death Note if it gives one team too much of an advantage? An OP story that is either useless or too explicit/outs mafia too easily?

I'll do my best, but no yelling at the co-mod. I wouldn't have played this game, so mod? Electoral college, i mean wtf?
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3/26/2011 2:43:07 PM
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Zetsubou
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3/26/2011 3:07:35 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Wow, who knew bluesteel was such a whiny Dbag.

At 3/26/2011 1:31:30 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/26/2011 1:15:51 PM, innomen wrote:
At 3/26/2011 1:12:56 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/26/2011 1:07:14 PM, innomen wrote:


I didn't exactly expect to sign up for this.

lol, I feel for ya. It looks like with this whole "story of clues" deal that Zetsubou will have to start all the DP's himself, so you probably just need to make sure you understand the electoral college system so you can update the vote counts properly.

I think your impulse on that other thread may have been justified.

Yeah :/ I like Death Note, and I trust that you'll keep the game moving along, but this game just looks like too much of a mess to get into. A voting system that most people hate in real life? The mod can randomly decide to stop using the Death Note if it gives one team too much of an advantage? An OP story that is either useless or too explicit/outs mafia too easily?
No, it's when the town population gets too small sames goes for the colleges system. Neither works great end game, last time it sorta worked but I'm not going to take chances.

This isn't the first Electoral Game, it's been done before and tested before - it worked. The system isn't liked in real life because it's for government elections and people feel like their votes are weakened. It's a game, Jesus Christ; it's a difference to how the games is played - repetition gets boring.

At 3/26/2011 1:04:40 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 3/26/2011 12:57:00 PM, innomen wrote:
At 3/26/2011 12:25:54 PM, LeafRod wrote:
At 3/26/2011 6:29:21 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
Innomen will be your co-mod - he will tend to DP threads and take in NP as well as me.

AKA pretty much be the mod.

That's what i'm afraid of. I'm looking at how complicated he's made this game.

Yeah. Make sure he clearly tells you: 1) how long someone can be inactive before being replaced (48 hours is typical); 2) under what conditions the Death Note leaves the game; 3) make sure you understand his electoral college voting system. What happens in the event of a tie, for example (like there are only 4 electoral colleges - you could start with 5, but one could get killed off completely).

The more you understand the rules the better, since it defeats the point of having multiple mods if the rules are so complicated that you keep needing to wait on Zets to ask him questions.
Co Mods have their own PMs, he can ask me there.
'sup DDO -- july 2013
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3/26/2011 3:37:22 PM
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No way in hell I'm missing this
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3/26/2011 3:38:23 PM
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At 3/26/2011 3:37:22 PM, lovelife wrote:
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No way in hell I'm missing this

You just posted that you weren't sure you'd be able to play games, and now you're signing up for a new one?
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3/26/2011 5:34:33 PM
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At 3/26/2011 3:38:23 PM, innomen wrote:
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No way in hell I'm missing this

You just posted that you weren't sure you'd be able to play games, and now you're signing up for a new one?

1) DDO is not blocked. I found that out about an hour ago
2) Its death note mafia, I HAVE to play it.
3) it will be a while before it starts anyway. Enough time for PMS to pass. If I'm innactive I can surely be replaced. Way more people are far more innactive much more often than me and still play regularly.
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3/27/2011 2:43:49 PM
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3/27/2011 5:27:11 PM
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Why are these signups so slow?
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
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3/27/2011 5:29:48 PM
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Ore_Ele
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3/27/2011 5:32:27 PM
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At 3/27/2011 5:27:11 PM, mongoose wrote:
Why are these signups so slow?

Cause they were started on a weekend. The title does not say "mafia" or "signups" so most people are probably going to think this is about the Manga, not mafia. Some people boycotting it. There are a few reasons.
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tvellalott
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3/27/2011 6:18:28 PM
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At 3/27/2011 5:32:27 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 3/27/2011 5:27:11 PM, mongoose wrote:
Why are these signups so slow?

Cause they were started on a weekend. The title does not say "mafia" or "signups" so most people are probably going to think this is about the Manga, not mafia. Some people boycotting it. There are a few reasons.

I know, that's pretty retarded.
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3/27/2011 6:38:33 PM
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At 3/27/2011 5:32:27 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 3/27/2011 5:27:11 PM, mongoose wrote:
Why are these signups so slow?

Cause they were started on a weekend. The title does not say "mafia" or "signups" so most people are probably going to think this is about the Manga, not mafia. Some people boycotting it. There are a few reasons.

I'm still conflicted if I want to join this game. I don't know, looks like it won't go very smooth.
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
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3/28/2011 10:28:28 AM
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At 3/27/2011 6:38:33 PM, M.Torres wrote:
At 3/27/2011 5:32:27 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 3/27/2011 5:27:11 PM, mongoose wrote:
Why are these signups so slow?

Cause they were started on a weekend. The title does not say "mafia" or "signups" so most people are probably going to think this is about the Manga, not mafia. Some people boycotting it. There are a few reasons.

I'm still conflicted if I want to join this game. I don't know, looks like it won't go very smooth.

I don't know either, but I'm going to give it a shot.
"Wanting Red Rhino Pill to have gender"
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3/28/2011 10:53:01 AM
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3/28/2011 3:57:01 PM
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At 3/28/2011 3:26:33 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
tut, tut, tut

Redirect link: http://www.debate.org...

dude, that's buried way below in the forums. Normally a game would be full. It's either b/c of your title or b/c people don't want to play with you. Here, I'll do you a favor.
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3/28/2011 4:11:14 PM
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Thank for signing up if you did, thank you very much.

Game canceled, if sign up activity rises between now and Thursday I could reinstate but truth be told I don't see that happening.

Thanks again. If anyone reinstates the theme I have a role list and list of PMs if they want them.
'sup DDO -- july 2013