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FREEDO
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3/26/2011 10:10:08 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Reviving this game: http://www.debate.org...

Mirza completely won that thread.

Here is my go:

"Hello friends. Well now that I have some time what I would honestly
like to know is how could you explain how your Atheist ideology works.
I mean I know that it's based all on hypthetical and has no real
substainance. But, please, what is it I am missing. ha. ha. ha.
But I am serious and would like to know and please explain well
since I apparently find it hard to understand your sofistication."
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3/26/2011 10:11:00 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
interrogator
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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3/26/2011 10:13:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/26/2011 10:11:00 PM, askbob wrote:
interrogator

Yeah, haha, kind of obvious. You go know.
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3/26/2011 10:47:02 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
If askbob isn't posting, I'll go next

The feudal system of industry, in which industrial production was monopolised by closed guilds, now no longer sufficed for the growing wants of the new markets. The manufacturing system took its place. The guild-masters were pushed on one side by the manufacturing middle class; division of labour between the different corporate guilds vanished in the face of division of labour in each single workshop.

Meantime the markets kept ever growing, the demand ever rising. Even manufacturer no longer sufficed. Thereupon, steam and machinery revolutionised industrial production. The place of manufacture was taken by the giant, Modern Industry; the place of the industrial middle class by industrial millionaires, the leaders of the whole industrial armies, the modern bourgeois.

Modern industry has established the world market, for which the discovery of America paved the way. This market has given an immense development to commerce, to navigation, to communication by land. This development has, in its turn, reacted on the extension of industry; and in proportion as industry, commerce, navigation, railways extended, in the same proportion the bourgeoisie developed, increased its capital, and pushed into the background every class handed down from the Middle Ages.

We see, therefore, how the modern bourgeoisie is itself the product of a long course of development, of a series of revolutions in the modes of production and of exchange.

Each step in the development of the bourgeoisie was accompanied by a corresponding political advance of that class. An oppressed class under the sway of the feudal nobility, an armed and self-governing association in the medieval commune(4): here independent urban republic (as in Italy and Germany); there taxable "third estate" of the monarchy (as in France); afterwards, in the period of manufacturing proper, serving either the semi-feudal or the absolute monarchy as a counterpoise against the nobility, and, in fact, cornerstone of the great monarchies in general, the bourgeoisie has at last, since the establishment of Modern Industry and of the world market, conquered for itself, in the modern representative State, exclusive political sway. The executive of the modern state is but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole bourgeoisie.

The bourgeoisie, historically, has played a most revolutionary part.

The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his "natural superiors", and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, than callous "cash payment". It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervour, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of the numberless indefeasible chartered freedoms, has set up that single, unconscionable freedom — Free Trade. In one word, for exploitation, veiled by religious and political illusions, it has substituted naked, shameless, direct, brutal exploitation.

The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honoured and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage labourers.

The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation to a mere money relation.

The bourgeoisie has disclosed how it came to pass that the brutal display of vigour in the Middle Ages, which reactionaries so much admire, found its fitting complement in the most slothful indolence. It has been the first to show what man's activity can bring about. It has accomplished wonders far surpassing Egyptian pyramids, Roman aqueducts, and Gothic cathedrals; it has conducted expeditions that put in the shade all former Exoduses of nations and crusades.

The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionising of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind.

The need of a constantly expanding market for its products chases the bourgeoisie over the entire surface of the globe. It must nestle everywhere, settle everywhere, establish connexions everywhere.

The bourgeoisie has through its exploitation of the world market given a cosmopolitan character to production and consumption in every country. To the great chagrin of Reactionists, it has drawn from under the feet of industry the national ground on which it stood. All old-established national industries have been destroyed or are daily being destroyed. They are dislodged by new industries, whose introduction becomes a life and death question for all civilised nations, by industries that no longer work up indigenous raw material, but raw material drawn from the remotest zones; industries whose products are consumed, not only at home, but in every quarter of the globe. In place of the old wants, satisfied by the production of the country, we find new wants, requiring for their satisfaction the products of distant lands and climes. In place of the old local and national seclusion and self-sufficiency, we have intercourse in every direction, universal inter-dependence of nations. And as in material, so also in intellectual production. The intellectual creations of individual nations become common property. National one-sidedness and narrow-mindedness become more and more impossible, and from the numerous national and local literatures, there arises a world literature.

The bourgeoisie, by the rapid improvement of all instruments of production, by the immensely facilitated means of communication, draws all, even the most barbarian, nations into civilisation. The cheap prices of commodities are the heavy artillery with which it batters down all Chinese walls, with which it forces the barbarians' intensely obstinate hatred of foreigners to capitulate. It compels all nations, on pain of extinction, to adopt the bourgeois mode of production; it compels them to introduce what it calls civilisation into their midst, i.e., to become bourgeois themselves. In one word, it creates a world after its own image.

The bourgeoisie has subjected the country to the rule of the towns. It has created enormous cities, has greatly increased the urban population as compared with the rural, and has thus rescued a considerable part of the population from the idiocy of rural life. Just as it has made the country dependent on the towns, so it has made barbarian and semi-barbarian countries dependent on the civilised ones, nations of peasants on nations of bourgeois, the East on the West.
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3/27/2011 1:02:56 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/27/2011 12:14:05 AM, ccstate4peat wrote:
At 3/26/2011 11:07:49 PM, mongeese wrote:
charleslb?

yeah

Did you write that or copy paste it?
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3/27/2011 10:25:03 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Now..... being an atheist in ITSELF isn't awesome.. but holding the correct belief system is awesome.... as it distinguishes those who can reason and those who can't.......

Now that is not to say theists can't be awesome or CAN'T reason... but more likely if you have a REASONABLE person.... it's going to be an atheist... because when you really think about it...

It just doesn't make sense to be a THEIST

You can SAY that god exists..... but if you can't PROVE it.... then it's just silly... but anyway I don't even know if I should keep rambling about GOD... because not many people can make SENSE of what I'm typing ANYWAY....... Because apparently I can take the time to make words italicized, bolded and CAPITALIZED and highlighted in..... all kinds of ways..... But I can't bring myself to write a proper sentence........ I say I type like how i talk..... so I must talk like a RETARD.... Even CHILDREN are capable of making coherent sentences...... but not me.......... I just kinda ramble and ACT as if I have a point.......

But I know most people just skip over it OR just think I am a fvcking moron based on my 3rd grade grammar sooooooooooooooo I don't even remember my piont but just BLABBIDY blahbidyy blaaah
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3/27/2011 10:25:50 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
matt?
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http://www.debate.org...

http://mises.org...

http://lewrockwell.com...

http://antiwar.com...

: At 6/22/2011 6:57:23 PM, el-badgero wrote:
: i didn't like [Obama]. he was the only black dude in moneygall yet he claimed to be home. obvious liar is obvious liar. i bet him and bin laden are bumfvcking right now.
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3/27/2011 10:27:23 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/27/2011 10:26:25 AM, Danielle wrote:
At 3/27/2011 10:25:50 AM, LaissezFaire wrote:
matt?

Is that really a question?

Well it looks like his, but I never really read his posts so I wasn't sure.
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: At 6/22/2011 6:57:23 PM, el-badgero wrote:
: i didn't like [Obama]. he was the only black dude in moneygall yet he claimed to be home. obvious liar is obvious liar. i bet him and bin laden are bumfvcking right now.
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3/27/2011 10:28:22 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/27/2011 10:27:23 AM, LaissezFaire wrote:
Well it looks like his, but I never really read his posts so I wasn't sure.

I don't read his posts either lol because they look like that. And it gives me a headache.
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3/27/2011 10:33:19 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/27/2011 10:25:03 AM, Danielle wrote:
Now..... being an atheist in ITSELF isn't awesome.. but holding the correct belief system is awesome.... as it distinguishes those who can reason and those who can't.......

Now that is not to say theists can't be awesome or CAN'T reason... but more likely if you have a REASONABLE person.... it's going to be an atheist... because when you really think about it...

It just doesn't make sense to be a THEIST

You can SAY that god exists..... but if you can't PROVE it.... then it's just silly... but anyway I don't even know if I should keep rambling about GOD... because not many people can make SENSE of what I'm typing ANYWAY....... Because apparently I can take the time to make words italicized, bolded and CAPITALIZED and highlighted in..... all kinds of ways..... But I can't bring myself to write a proper sentence........ I say I type like how i talk..... so I must talk like a RETARD.... Even CHILDREN are capable of making coherent sentences...... but not me.......... I just kinda ramble and ACT as if I have a point.......

But I know most people just skip over it OR just think I am a fvcking moron based on my 3rd grade grammar sooooooooooooooo I don't even remember my piont but just BLABBIDY blahbidyy blaaah
Cosmic?
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3/27/2011 10:38:24 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/27/2011 10:33:19 AM, Mirza wrote:
At 3/27/2011 10:25:03 AM, Danielle wrote:
Now..... being an atheist in ITSELF isn't awesome.. but holding the correct belief system is awesome.... as it distinguishes those who can reason and those who can't.......

Now that is not to say theists can't be awesome or CAN'T reason... but more likely if you have a REASONABLE person.... it's going to be an atheist... because when you really think about it...

It just doesn't make sense to be a THEIST

You can SAY that god exists..... but if you can't PROVE it.... then it's just silly... but anyway I don't even know if I should keep rambling about GOD... because not many people can make SENSE of what I'm typing ANYWAY....... Because apparently I can take the time to make words italicized, bolded and CAPITALIZED and highlighted in..... all kinds of ways..... But I can't bring myself to write a proper sentence........ I say I type like how i talk..... so I must talk like a RETARD.... Even CHILDREN are capable of making coherent sentences...... but not me.......... I just kinda ramble and ACT as if I have a point.......

But I know most people just skip over it OR just think I am a fvcking moron based on my 3rd grade grammar sooooooooooooooo I don't even remember my piont but just BLABBIDY blahbidyy blaaah
Cosmic?

Surely, you jest. I don't talk anything like that at all.
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3/27/2011 10:38:35 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/27/2011 10:35:56 AM, Danielle wrote:
At 3/27/2011 10:33:19 AM, Mirza wrote:
Cosmic?

Nope, matt :P
I thought so, but it looked like Laissez-F got it wrong!
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3/27/2011 10:41:30 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/27/2011 10:38:35 AM, Mirza wrote:
At 3/27/2011 10:35:56 AM, Danielle wrote:
At 3/27/2011 10:33:19 AM, Mirza wrote:
Cosmic?

Nope, matt :P
I thought so, but it looked like Laissez-F got it wrong!

Haha I was being sarcastic because I thought it was very obvious.
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3/27/2011 10:43:48 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
This one is too easy, I'm bad at this game.

Response: You have not addressed my points. The way you respond only brings to light your immorality, and only works to support my case.
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3/27/2011 10:45:00 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/27/2011 10:43:48 AM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
This one is too easy, I'm bad at this game.


Response: You have not addressed my points. The way you respond only brings to light your immorality, and only works to support my case.

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Should we subsidize education?
http://www.debate.org...

http://mises.org...

http://lewrockwell.com...

http://antiwar.com...

: At 6/22/2011 6:57:23 PM, el-badgero wrote:
: i didn't like [Obama]. he was the only black dude in moneygall yet he claimed to be home. obvious liar is obvious liar. i bet him and bin laden are bumfvcking right now.
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3/27/2011 10:46:31 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/27/2011 10:45:00 AM, LaissezFaire wrote:
At 3/27/2011 10:43:48 AM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
This one is too easy, I'm bad at this game.


Response: You have not addressed my points. The way you respond only brings to light your immorality, and only works to support my case.

Fatihah

You win the prize.
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3/27/2011 12:35:19 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/27/2011 10:25:03 AM, Danielle wrote:
Now..... being an atheist in ITSELF isn't awesome.. but holding the correct belief system is awesome.... as it distinguishes those who can reason and those who can't.......

Now that is not to say theists can't be awesome or CAN'T reason... but more likely if you have a REASONABLE person.... it's going to be an atheist... because when you really think about it...

It just doesn't make sense to be a THEIST

You can SAY that god exists..... but if you can't PROVE it.... then it's just silly... but anyway I don't even know if I should keep rambling about GOD... because not many people can make SENSE of what I'm typing ANYWAY....... Because apparently I can take the time to make words italicized, bolded and CAPITALIZED and highlighted in..... all kinds of ways..... But I can't bring myself to write a proper sentence........ I say I type like how i talk..... so I must talk like a RETARD.... Even CHILDREN are capable of making coherent sentences...... but not me.......... I just kinda ramble and ACT as if I have a point.......

But I know most people just skip over it OR just think I am a fvcking moron based on my 3rd grade grammar sooooooooooooooo I don't even remember my piont but just BLABBIDY blahbidyy blaaah

Perfect Matt parody. Nicely done.
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3/27/2011 6:33:43 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/27/2011 1:02:56 AM, FREEDO wrote:
At 3/27/2011 12:14:05 AM, ccstate4peat wrote:
At 3/26/2011 11:07:49 PM, mongeese wrote:
charleslb?

yeah

Did you write that or copy paste it?

That would be the communist manifesto
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3/27/2011 6:39:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/27/2011 10:25:03 AM, Danielle wrote:
Now..... being an atheist in ITSELF isn't awesome.. but holding the correct belief system is awesome.... as it distinguishes those who can reason and those who can't.......

Now that is not to say theists can't be awesome or CAN'T reason... but more likely if you have a REASONABLE person.... it's going to be an atheist... because when you really think about it...

It just doesn't make sense to be a THEIST

You can SAY that god exists..... but if you can't PROVE it.... then it's just silly... but anyway I don't even know if I should keep rambling about GOD... because not many people can make SENSE of what I'm typing ANYWAY....... Because apparently I can take the time to make words italicized, bolded and CAPITALIZED and highlighted in..... all kinds of ways..... But I can't bring myself to write a proper sentence........ I say I type like how i talk..... so I must talk like a RETARD.... Even CHILDREN are capable of making coherent sentences...... but not me.......... I just kinda ramble and ACT as if I have a point.......

But I know most people just skip over it OR just think I am a fvcking moron based on my 3rd grade grammar sooooooooooooooo I don't even remember my piont but just BLABBIDY blahbidyy blaaah

LMFAO

I read matt's posts though and they make sense. They're just weirdly formatted.
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3/27/2011 10:05:26 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/27/2011 10:38:24 AM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
At 3/27/2011 10:33:19 AM, Mirza wrote:
At 3/27/2011 10:25:03 AM, Danielle wrote:
Now..... being an atheist in ITSELF isn't awesome.. but holding the correct belief system is awesome.... as it distinguishes those who can reason and those who can't.......

Now that is not to say theists can't be awesome or CAN'T reason... but more likely if you have a REASONABLE person.... it's going to be an atheist... because when you really think about it...

It just doesn't make sense to be a THEIST

You can SAY that god exists..... but if you can't PROVE it.... then it's just silly... but anyway I don't even know if I should keep rambling about GOD... because not many people can make SENSE of what I'm typing ANYWAY....... Because apparently I can take the time to make words italicized, bolded and CAPITALIZED and highlighted in..... all kinds of ways..... But I can't bring myself to write a proper sentence........ I say I type like how i talk..... so I must talk like a RETARD.... Even CHILDREN are capable of making coherent sentences...... but not me.......... I just kinda ramble and ACT as if I have a point.......

But I know most people just skip over it OR just think I am a fvcking moron based on my 3rd grade grammar sooooooooooooooo I don't even remember my piont but just BLABBIDY blahbidyy blaaah
Cosmic?

Surely, you jest. I don't talk anything like that at all.

Neither do I

that was all nonsense.. My posts are actually coherent ;)
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