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Danielle
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4/4/2011 3:13:48 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Okay, I've got 14+ new roles and a game already set-up. For those who didn't notice my other thread, I'll be hosting a game where every role used is either new or native to DDO (invented by a member here). I figured I could post sign-ups for this trial since particular concept games are exempt from following the small list. However if people object, I'm fine with moving the game back.

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4/4/2011 3:15:47 PM
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4/4/2011 3:25:12 PM
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4/4/2011 3:25:37 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/4/2011 3:24:45 PM, OreEle wrote:
What is the "concept" that is being tested by this game?

Concept... roles?
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4/4/2011 3:28:59 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/4/2011 3:25:37 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 4/4/2011 3:24:45 PM, OreEle wrote:
What is the "concept" that is being tested by this game?

Concept... roles?

But they are roles that have all already been used.
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4/4/2011 3:37:57 PM
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At 4/4/2011 3:28:59 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 4/4/2011 3:25:37 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 4/4/2011 3:24:45 PM, OreEle wrote:
What is the "concept" that is being tested by this game?

Concept... roles?

But they are roles that have all already been used.

...among standard roles. The concept is ONLY roles that are original (ie. Danielle has created new roles for this game) and native (ie. roles created by other users on DDO). I think it will be good. I know you're next on the small game list; if you have a problem you should openly complain rather than asking loaded questions.
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4/4/2011 3:48:42 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/4/2011 3:37:57 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 4/4/2011 3:28:59 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 4/4/2011 3:25:37 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 4/4/2011 3:24:45 PM, OreEle wrote:
What is the "concept" that is being tested by this game?

Concept... roles?

But they are roles that have all already been used.

...among standard roles. The concept is ONLY roles that are original (ie. Danielle has created new roles for this game) and native (ie. roles created by other users on DDO). I think it will be good. I know you're next on the small game list; if you have a problem you should openly complain rather than asking loaded questions.

I actually have no problem with it. I was only asking a question to see if I wanted to participate, sorry you misunderstood. If anything, I would only ask if the game is done in the PMs, but even that I'm not sure if I care enough about.

Typically, concept games are used for testing that you wish to later impliment into a full game, I've done a few of these myself. And so are done for testing (it is more for the mod than for the players of the concept), not for entertainment, and so can be done just fine in private (as in, private messages).

But again, I'm not sure if I really care enough to actually ask that.
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4/4/2011 3:58:25 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
For bluesteel's concept game, he said, "I wanted to run a quick concept game, where you can start a PM with any other player as long as I'm included in the PM. It allows interesting strategies and a whole new element, if it's utilized well." This is also a game with an added element of strategy and creativity. If concept games exist to test new roles, then a game that exists to test a dozen or so new roles seems pretty conceptual.
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4/4/2011 4:15:49 PM
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4/4/2011 4:47:33 PM
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4/4/2011 4:51:38 PM
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list cheaters: bluesteel, danielle
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4/4/2011 4:52:35 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/4/2011 4:51:38 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
list cheaters: bluesteel, danielle

How can you call them "cheaters" if you're signing up for their games?
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4/4/2011 4:55:38 PM
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At 4/4/2011 4:52:35 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 4/4/2011 4:51:38 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
list cheaters: bluesteel, danielle

How can you call them "cheaters" if you're signing up for their games?

Ummm... by calling them 'cheaters' and signing up for her game.

it's mostly typing out the stuff... pretty straightforward.
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4/4/2011 4:56:44 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
seems like it'd be a fun game... that I'd wanna play in..

doesn't mean she's not a list cheater.
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4/4/2011 7:40:43 PM
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: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

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4/4/2011 8:12:50 PM
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4/4/2011 11:02:59 PM
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At 4/4/2011 8:12:50 PM, bluesteel wrote:
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Someone knows what's up with spot #6...
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4/4/2011 11:08:06 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/4/2011 4:56:44 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
seems like it'd be a fun game... that I'd wanna play in..

doesn't mean she's not a list cheater.

how is she a "list cheater"?
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4/4/2011 11:16:07 PM
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At 4/4/2011 4:56:44 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
seems like it'd be a fun game... that I'd wanna play in..

doesn't mean she's not a list cheater.

She is making a concept game by using roles that have never been used before. This is totally cool because it's an original game. Bluesteel's game was not original. Concept games have always been allowed to skip the list as long as they were small games and actually concept games. Danielle is totally in the right here and I look forward to playing this completely original game.
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4/4/2011 11:17:41 PM
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bluesteels game was original as he added a new concept to the game that didn't exist previously.
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4/4/2011 11:22:28 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/4/2011 11:17:41 PM, askbob wrote:
bluesteels game was original as he added a new concept to the game that didn't exist previously.

Bullshît. Whispering has been part of mafia before it was brought here.
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4/4/2011 11:25:51 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/4/2011 11:22:28 PM, ccstate4peat wrote:
At 4/4/2011 11:17:41 PM, askbob wrote:
bluesteels game was original as he added a new concept to the game that didn't exist previously.

Bullshît. Whispering has been part of mafia before it was brought here.

New DDO concept, regardless of origin.
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
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4/4/2011 11:28:07 PM
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At 4/4/2011 11:22:28 PM, ccstate4peat wrote:
At 4/4/2011 11:17:41 PM, askbob wrote:
bluesteels game was original as he added a new concept to the game that didn't exist previously.

Bullshît. Whispering has been part of mafia before it was brought here.

It's not new b/c it exists somewhere else?

By that logic the Renaissance wasn't anything special; Europe was just recycling concepts that had already been discovered in the East.

Calculus wasn't a new idea b/c it was invented separately by Newton and Leibniz.

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4/4/2011 11:34:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/4/2011 11:16:07 PM, ccstate4peat wrote:
At 4/4/2011 4:56:44 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
seems like it'd be a fun game... that I'd wanna play in..

doesn't mean she's not a list cheater.

She is making a concept game by using roles that have never been used before. This is totally cool because it's an original game. Bluesteel's game was not original. Concept games have always been allowed to skip the list as long as they were small games and actually concept games. Danielle is totally in the right here and I look forward to playing this completely original game.

I actually think Blue's was more of a concept game, since it used a new feature, where this is just new roles (unless the role's work on new features, like a mafia role that allows a mafia to "tap in" to a whisper, that would be cool, or a townie to be able to do that). But other than that, I do think it is a nice ode to DDO.
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4/4/2011 11:42:46 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/4/2011 11:28:07 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 4/4/2011 11:22:28 PM, ccstate4peat wrote:
At 4/4/2011 11:17:41 PM, askbob wrote:
bluesteels game was original as he added a new concept to the game that didn't exist previously.

Bullshît. Whispering has been part of mafia before it was brought here.

It's not new b/c it exists somewhere else?

By that logic the Renaissance wasn't anything special; Europe was just recycling concepts that had already been discovered in the East.

Calculus wasn't a new idea b/c it was invented separately by Newton and Leibniz.

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The Renaissance and Calculus were discovered/invented by people who had no way of accessing the other inventor's work. You took an idea that is incredibly widespread and incredibly easy to access and called it your own. If I tried a new concept and was told it was already done I would pull it because I cheated the list and the integrity of concept games.
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4/4/2011 11:43:52 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/4/2011 11:34:45 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 4/4/2011 11:16:07 PM, ccstate4peat wrote:
At 4/4/2011 4:56:44 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
seems like it'd be a fun game... that I'd wanna play in..

doesn't mean she's not a list cheater.

She is making a concept game by using roles that have never been used before. This is totally cool because it's an original game. Bluesteel's game was not original. Concept games have always been allowed to skip the list as long as they were small games and actually concept games. Danielle is totally in the right here and I look forward to playing this completely original game.

I actually think Blue's was more of a concept game, since it used a new feature, where this is just new roles (unless the role's work on new features, like a mafia role that allows a mafia to "tap in" to a whisper, that would be cool, or a townie to be able to do that). But other than that, I do think it is a nice ode to DDO.

You've clearly never played any mafia outside of here, noob.
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4/4/2011 11:45:55 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 4/4/2011 11:02:59 PM, ccstate4peat wrote:
At 4/4/2011 8:12:50 PM, bluesteel wrote:
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Someone knows what's up with spot #6...

If the number I want is taken, than I'll take whatever number has no neighbors.

Also, for the "list cheating" stuff. Since I'm next, and choosing to participate, can we stop calling it "list cheating." I'm not uber happy about it, but I trust that Danielle will be a fast mod and keep things moving quick, so the game won't die down. And the list will be back up and running in no time.
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