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feverish
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10/19/2011 3:54:07 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Paul, also known as Saul (Blackhawk) has become the latest to be crucified.

Living players:

1. M.Torres
2. tvellalott
3. bluesteel
4. Danielle
5. Man-is-good
6. innomen
7. Andromeda Z

4 votes to lynch.

Vote count:
Man-is-good 1/4 (Man-is-good)
bluesteel
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10/19/2011 11:02:57 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Did blackhawk target someone successfully before dying?

I don't see why the mafia would kill blackhawk instead of danielle, but w/e. Either something weird is going on or MiG isn't paying much attention.

VTL man-is-good
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
M.Torres
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10/19/2011 11:22:26 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Still to hear from Danielle (she investigated MiG, no?), and from MiG himself. But he probably knows he lost. Mini-mason. Ha.

VTL MiG
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
M.Torres
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10/19/2011 11:24:45 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/19/2011 11:02:57 AM, bluesteel wrote:
Did blackhawk target someone successfully before dying?

Yes, he did.


I don't see why the mafia would kill blackhawk instead of danielle, but w/e. Either something weird is going on or MiG isn't paying much attention.

Yeah. That was stupid. They were probably trying to frame whoever Black was recruiting, but the recruit went through. I'd do it differently were I mod, but whatever. This game is basically over.

TV - did you get to use your power again?
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
M.Torres
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10/19/2011 11:26:13 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Role blocker is only Mafia left. Which is odd, since Mafia should have blocked one investigator, and killed the other. There's enough suspicion on me that there is almost zero need to waste a kill on Blackhawk. But whatevs.
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
bluesteel
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10/19/2011 11:50:48 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
How do you know the roleblocker isn't dead????
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
M.Torres
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10/19/2011 12:07:22 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/19/2011 11:50:48 AM, bluesteel wrote:
How do you know the roleblocker isn't dead????

I'm assuming. I could be wrong. So it's more like "assuming that roleblocker is only Mafia left, then etc. etc. etc."
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
bluesteel
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10/19/2011 12:32:25 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
No, you said it pretty definitively in your last post. It's probably because you DO know with 100% certainty who the one (just you) or two (you and MiG) remaining mafia are and what their roles are.

Another CLASSIC M.Torres slip up.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
bluesteel
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10/19/2011 12:33:03 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Regardless, now I'm gonna wait for danielle before re-voting.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
M.Torres
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10/19/2011 12:36:25 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/19/2011 12:32:25 PM, bluesteel wrote:
No, you said it pretty definitively in your last post. It's probably because you DO know with 100% certainty who the one (just you) or two (you and MiG) remaining mafia are and what their roles are.

Another CLASSIC M.Torres slip up.

Whatever. It wasn't a slip up.
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
M.Torres
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10/19/2011 3:55:01 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Is MiG purposely ignoring this game?
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
Danielle
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10/19/2011 4:15:34 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Has anyone gotten a message from MiG? If not, we lynch him.

I didn't get a chance to use my role last night. It seems the mod is really strict with enforcing times to use night actions. I was deciding what to do, and we were talking amongst the masons to decide who to recruit before I realized which power I wanted to use. The day phase started before I could submit my action. I'm assuming I wasn't role blocked, because last time feverish told me I was role blocked even before I got a chance to use my role. That means I don't think there is a mafia role blocker. If there were, they would have role blocked me. We recruited innomen to the masons, indicating his innocence. He says he blessed TV, so let's see what TV has to say.

As far as lynching today, I think it's obvious that we should target MiG. Does anyone remember the character list or who we thought were definite mafia besides King Herod and Pointius Pilate? Also, I'm not convinced there isn't a cult or third party win condition. If there's a third party it might be TV (not that we should kill him or anything -- one thing at a time). Let's hear from him before voting MiG in case he has any useful information.
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Andromeda_Z
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10/19/2011 4:25:25 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/19/2011 4:23:48 PM, innomen wrote:
MiG is on line, not sure what we're waiting for.

Tvellalott, I think. There's no real point in waiting for MiG.

VTL MiG
bluesteel
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10/19/2011 8:21:15 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/19/2011 3:41:04 PM, innomen wrote:
I'd like to hear from TV, I blessed him.

BTW, i am unable to vote this DP, no explanation given.

It likely has something to do with you blessing tv... He has no vote, remember.

The fact MiG hasn't posted since he claimed, like two day phases ago, and still hasn't been replaced is pretty obvious evidence that he's mafia.

But I'll still wait for tv before hammering.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
M.Torres
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10/19/2011 9:26:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Danielle asked for a suspicion list. Besides MiG, I'm the most suspicious. IF (and I only say "IF", Bluesteel) MiG is not the last Mafia, I'll probably be lynched tomorrow. Beyond that, there's really no incriminating evidence against anyone.

1. M.Torres

Judas Iscariot - Intended Traitor, Vanilla Townie

Considered very suspicious as a result of character and role. Players doubt if Fever would really make me Vanilla just because Jesus died.

2. tvellalott

God the Father, Investigative/Vig/Hybrid-Thingy

Vig-killed Mafia and confirmed Danielle. Not truly considered Mafia, although some state they are suspicious of God not necessarily being Town.

3. bluesteel

Matthew the Tax Collector, Politician

Has used his powers as a Townie would, and confirmed by verse. Because Innomen is confirmed town, there is extremely little to none evidence that Blue could be Mafia.

4. Danielle

Character Unknown, Character Cop

Confirmed by TV, confirmed by Mason, and led the lynch on Pontius Pilate. No doubt town.

5. Man-is-good

Some little known apostle I don't remember, Messenger or Mini-Mason-Thingy

No one has received his claimed messages, and he has been totally inactive for two day phases. Incredibly weak claim, and assumed Mafia.

6. innomen

John the Baptist, Blesser-Thingy

Although the last to character claim, which is usually suspicious, Innomen still is confirmed via Blue. Both characters are tied to the verses, and assumed Town by this. We are waiting to see the results of his blessing this DP.

7. Andromeda Z

Jesus Christ, Self-Reviver

Seriously, there can be literally no doubt Jesus is Townie. Reviving roles can't be Mafia.
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
Danielle
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10/20/2011 6:04:21 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I'm really not sure why people keep saying I'm a role cop. Tvellalott revealed my role on Day Phase 2: I am the JOAT. One of my abilities (the only one I've used) was finding out people's character, in which I chose to investigate Marauder. Considering every other person has character claimed, I'll come out and say that I am Thomas, the doubter. By the way, feverish e-mailed me and told me that I actually WAS role blocked. That confirms bluesteel as he has used his power last night so cannot be the role blocker. Innomen is confirmed by being recruited to the masons. Andro is a revived townie. I know I am innocent. That leaves tvellalott, M.Torres and MIG. MIG hasn't proven his role (one that CAN be proven), so it's pretty obvious to me that he's the last mafioso. If not him, then Torres. Inno, what happens when you 'bless' someone? If nothing too special, then we don't need to wait for TV to check in before lynching MIG.
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innomen
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10/20/2011 9:12:39 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/20/2011 6:04:21 AM, Danielle wrote:
I'm really not sure why people keep saying I'm a role cop. Tvellalott revealed my role on Day Phase 2: I am the JOAT. One of my abilities (the only one I've used) was finding out people's character, in which I chose to investigate Marauder. Considering every other person has character claimed, I'll come out and say that I am Thomas, the doubter. By the way, feverish e-mailed me and told me that I actually WAS role blocked. That confirms bluesteel as he has used his power last night so cannot be the role blocker. Innomen is confirmed by being recruited to the masons. Andro is a revived townie. I know I am innocent. That leaves tvellalott, M.Torres and MIG. MIG hasn't proven his role (one that CAN be proven), so it's pretty obvious to me that he's the last mafioso. If not him, then Torres. Inno, what happens when you 'bless' someone? If nothing too special, then we don't need to wait for TV to check in before lynching MIG.

All i know is that something good will happen to the person i bless. What happened to BS after i blessed him?

BTW, what a dope i am, right after i say i cannot vote, i vote for MiG. I must have been really tired last night.
bluesteel
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10/20/2011 10:01:39 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
When you blessed me, it gave me protection for the next NP.

VTL MiG
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
tvellalott
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10/20/2011 5:16:00 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I can confirm innomen blessed me last night; I'm protected during the next NP.
"Caitlyn Jenner is an incredibly brave and stunningly beautiful woman."

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M.Torres
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10/20/2011 7:25:04 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
So we've had three forms of investigators and two protective roles, plus a reviver. What the heck. No wonder there had to be two role blockers.
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
M.Torres
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10/20/2011 7:25:49 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
And man-is-good continues to ignore this game... *sigh*
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
bluesteel
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10/20/2011 8:09:01 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Ok, can someone hammer MiG now?
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
tvellalott
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10/20/2011 8:18:40 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/20/2011 8:09:01 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Ok, can someone hammer MiG now?

This.
"Caitlyn Jenner is an incredibly brave and stunningly beautiful woman."

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Danielle
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10/20/2011 9:44:23 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
As the JOAT, I have a protective ability. I suggest innomen bless someone random (so the mafia doesn't know who it is). I'm going to protect myself tonight. Vote to lynch MIG.
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feverish
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10/22/2011 3:42:17 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Vote count:
Man-is-good 4/4 (Man-is-good, M.Torres, bluesteel, Danielle)

Man-is-good is lynched, he was The Whore Of Babylon.

The game is now over, thanks everyone for playing!

Winners are TV and Andro, second place is Andro and town, third place is TV and mafia. Andro is ultimate winner. All will become (more) clear in endgame thread coming soon.