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Danielle
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12/4/2011 9:09:20 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
== Living Players ==

01. F-16
02. tvellalott
03. drafterman
04. Andromeda
05. Medic
06. bluesteel
07. Spritle
08. HPG
09. PartamRuhem
10. Raisor
11. Lickdafoot
12. Thaddeus
13. Blackhawk1331
14. Viper-King
15. nonentity
16. socialpinko
17. Alex
18. DetectableNinja
19. Logic_on_rails
20. Wierdman
21. Ore_Ele
22. Homo_Sacer
23. CapLock
24. jm_notguilty
25. Cobo

== Rules ==

1. No c/p your role or taking a screen-shot of any game related PM.
2. No talking about this game outside of this game... no cheating!
3. Only I can end the day phase. Discussion ends when I say so.
4. Respect the spirit of the game. Don't be a douche.
5. Inactive players may be replaced at my discretion.
6. Ask any direct questions you have in your Role PM.

You need 13 votes to carry out a lynch.
President of DDO
headphonegut
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12/4/2011 9:12:41 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
VTL f-16 sorry bud first name I saw:P
character rawr
I win with the town
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DetectableNinja
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12/4/2011 9:17:45 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
VTL F16, for splitting the vote.

I win with the town.
Think'st thou heaven is such a glorious thing?
I tell thee, 'tis not half so fair as thou
Or any man that breathes on earth.

- Christopher Marlowe, Doctor Faustus
headphonegut
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12/4/2011 9:20:05 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/4/2011 9:16:38 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
There are no characters. Gotcha! Nice try. We have a mafia here.

VTL Headphonegut (for a lynch)

my bad you're right I'm the politician
role please
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F-16_Fighting_Falcon
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12/4/2011 9:21:53 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/4/2011 9:17:45 AM, DetectableNinja wrote:
VTL F16, for splitting the vote.

I win with the town.

DNinja, did you read my reasoning for splitting the vote? I'll unvote as HPG role-claimed. I don't think it is a good idea to reveal my role in DP1.
socialpinko
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12/4/2011 9:22:55 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
VTL Homosacer. I've never played with him before and I believe this is his first game. Obviously as a total noob he's more likely to make a mistake.

@DNinja
Your vote makes absolutely no sense. HPG voted for F-29 out of the blue. This doesn't mean he has to claim anything. Plus F-58's point was valid. I don't have a character either so HPG asking for a character claim is suspicious.
: At 9/29/2014 10:55:59 AM, imabench wrote:
: : At 9/29/2014 9:43:46 AM, kbub wrote:
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: : DDO should discredit support of sexual violence at any time and in every way.
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: I disagree.
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12/4/2011 9:25:44 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/4/2011 9:22:55 AM, socialpinko wrote:
VTL Homosacer. I've never played with him before and I believe this is his first game. Obviously as a total noob he's more likely to make a mistake.

@DNinja
Your vote makes absolutely no sense. HPG voted for F-29 out of the blue. This doesn't mean he has to claim anything. Plus F-58's point was valid. I don't have a character either so HPG asking for a character claim is suspicious.

Fine. UNVOTE, VTL Homosacer.
Think'st thou heaven is such a glorious thing?
I tell thee, 'tis not half so fair as thou
Or any man that breathes on earth.

- Christopher Marlowe, Doctor Faustus
headphonegut
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12/4/2011 9:27:03 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/4/2011 9:20:05 AM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/4/2011 9:16:38 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
There are no characters. Gotcha! Nice try. We have a mafia here.

VTL Headphonegut (for a lynch)

my bad you're right I'm the politician
role please
@spinko
-_-
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headphonegut
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12/4/2011 9:29:14 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/4/2011 9:25:44 AM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 12/4/2011 9:22:55 AM, socialpinko wrote:
VTL Homosacer. I've never played with him before and I believe this is his first game. Obviously as a total noob he's more likely to make a mistake.

@DNinja
Your vote makes absolutely no sense. HPG voted for F-29 out of the blue. This doesn't mean he has to claim anything. Plus F-58's point was valid. I don't have a character either so HPG asking for a character claim is suspicious.

Fine. UNVOTE, VTL Homosacer.

are you usually a bandwagoner? I haven't played with you before...
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medic0506
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12/4/2011 9:34:14 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
01. F-16- Hasn't come up with a good fake claim so doesn't want to claim yet.
02. tvellalott
03. drafterman
04. Andromeda
05. Medic-IWWTT
06. bluesteel
07. Spritle
08. HPG- Politician-IWWTT
09. PartamRuhem
10. Raisor
11. Lickdafoot
12. Thaddeus
13. Blackhawk1331
14. Viper-King
15. nonentity
16. socialpinko
17. Alex
18. DetectableNinja- IWWTT
19. Logic_on_rails
20. Wierdman
21. Ore_Ele
22. Homo_Sacer
23. CapLock
24. jm_notguilty
25. Cobo

VTL Sacer

I win with the town
headphonegut
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12/4/2011 9:40:25 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/4/2011 9:22:55 AM, socialpinko wrote:
VTL Homosacer. I've never played with him before and I believe this is his first game. Obviously as a total noob he's more likely to make a mistake.

@DNinja
Your vote makes absolutely no sense. HPG voted for F-29 out of the blue. This doesn't mean he has to claim anything. Plus F-58's point was valid. I don't have a character either so HPG asking for a character claim is suspicious.

NO it isn't suspicious I just got mixed up I haven't played in a classic game in a while I assumed I had I character I just glanced at my role so I could post first :P and so what if his vote doesn't make sense he can vote for whoever the hell he wants.
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F-16_Fighting_Falcon
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12/4/2011 9:41:37 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I don't pressure noobs because:

If we target a Newb Townie, they won't know to keep quiet about their role if they've got a good role, and they might just end up looking like mafia by making noob mistakes and getting lynched.

If the noob is a mafioso, they have more experienced players to discuss things with. So, they will know what to say.

I only pressure experienced players as I like a challenge and to see how they react.

VTL Bluesteel
socialpinko
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12/4/2011 9:42:45 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/4/2011 9:40:25 AM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/4/2011 9:22:55 AM, socialpinko wrote:
VTL Homosacer. I've never played with him before and I believe this is his first game. Obviously as a total noob he's more likely to make a mistake.

@DNinja
Your vote makes absolutely no sense. HPG voted for F-29 out of the blue. This doesn't mean he has to claim anything. Plus F-58's point was valid. I don't have a character either so HPG asking for a character claim is suspicious.

NO it isn't suspicious I just got mixed up I haven't played in a classic game in a while I assumed I had I character I just glanced at my role so I could post first :P and so what if his vote doesn't make sense he can vote for whoever the hell he wants.

Regardless of your reasoning after the fact, at that moment it was a suspicious move on your part. And I obviously can't change his vote, mafia games are about discussion. I haven't played with you in a while I think so I can't remember if you play this way every game or not.
: At 9/29/2014 10:55:59 AM, imabench wrote:
: : At 9/29/2014 9:43:46 AM, kbub wrote:
: :
: : DDO should discredit support of sexual violence at any time and in every way.
:
: I disagree.
headphonegut
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12/4/2011 9:44:11 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/4/2011 9:41:37 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
I don't pressure noobs because:

If we target a Newb Townie, they won't know to keep quiet about their role if they've got a good role, and they might just end up looking like mafia by making noob mistakes and getting lynched.

If the noob is a mafioso, they have more experienced players to discuss things with. So, they will know what to say.

I only pressure experienced players as I like a challenge and to see how they react.

VTL Bluesteel

right -_-
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medic0506
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12/4/2011 9:45:07 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Make sure you guys say I win with the town. A game this size is most likely to have a lie detector or joat with that ability.
socialpinko
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12/4/2011 9:47:17 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/4/2011 9:41:37 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
I don't pressure noobs because:

If we target a Newb Townie, they won't know to keep quiet about their role if they've got a good role, and they might just end up looking like mafia by making noob mistakes and getting lynched.

It's a possibility of course, however, we're not pressuring for a character in this case. Remember that roles are different and have a higher ability to be tested. If homo logs on and claimed miller, that's obviously suspicious but wouldn't be exclusive to noobs since he's not online. But if he claims even something like BP or Messenger, that can be tested. You have to take into account the differences between character and role claims.

If the noob is a mafioso, they have more experienced players to discuss things with. So, they will know what to say.

So to bypass this problem, you just go passed the middle man and pressure possibly the best player in the game? Which do you think has more probability of making a mistake, the noob with advice or the best mafioso on DDO?

I only pressure experienced players as I like a challenge and to see how they react.

VTL Bluesteel
: At 9/29/2014 10:55:59 AM, imabench wrote:
: : At 9/29/2014 9:43:46 AM, kbub wrote:
: :
: : DDO should discredit support of sexual violence at any time and in every way.
:
: I disagree.
socialpinko
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12/4/2011 9:47:59 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/4/2011 9:45:07 AM, medic0506 wrote:
Make sure you guys say I win with the town. A game this size is most likely to have a lie detector or joat with that ability.

I win with the town.
: At 9/29/2014 10:55:59 AM, imabench wrote:
: : At 9/29/2014 9:43:46 AM, kbub wrote:
: :
: : DDO should discredit support of sexual violence at any time and in every way.
:
: I disagree.
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12/4/2011 9:48:29 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/4/2011 9:45:07 AM, PartamRuhem wrote:
I win with the town. I don't know how much we should actually pressure people for roles, for obvious reasons.

Danielle said she considered starting with the night phase. I kinda wish she had for this very reason. Either we out a few roles, or just go straight to a NL.
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12/4/2011 9:49:07 AM
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At 12/4/2011 9:42:45 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 12/4/2011 9:40:25 AM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/4/2011 9:22:55 AM, socialpinko wrote:
VTL Homosacer. I've never played with him before and I believe this is his first game. Obviously as a total noob he's more likely to make a mistake.

@DNinja
Your vote makes absolutely no sense. HPG voted for F-29 out of the blue. This doesn't mean he has to claim anything. Plus F-58's point was valid. I don't have a character either so HPG asking for a character claim is suspicious.

NO it isn't suspicious I just got mixed up I haven't played in a classic game in a while I assumed I had I character I just glanced at my role so I could post first :P and so what if his vote doesn't make sense he can vote for whoever the hell he wants.

Regardless of your reasoning after the fact, at that moment it was a suspicious move on your part. And I obviously can't change his vote, mafia games are about discussion. I haven't played with you in a while I think so I can't remember if you play this way every game or not.

I claimed before it would get out of hand and I admitted I was wrong and I posted before you did that I was wrong
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socialpinko
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12/4/2011 9:54:10 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/4/2011 9:48:29 AM, medic0506 wrote:
At 12/4/2011 9:45:07 AM, PartamRuhem wrote:
I win with the town. I don't know how much we should actually pressure people for roles, for obvious reasons.

Danielle said she considered starting with the night phase. I kinda wish she had for this very reason. Either we out a few roles, or just go straight to a NL.

Well we have a politician role outed so the mafia don't have a power role to target yet. Which means even if Homo turns out to be a power role we can have watcher or doctor on him tonight. Mafia probably won't waste their NK on a politician anyways so they'll likely have to take a shot in the dark. We should only pressure one more person before VTNLing though. Normally 3 pressures would be fine for such a large game but we want to keep mafia guessing.
: At 9/29/2014 10:55:59 AM, imabench wrote:
: : At 9/29/2014 9:43:46 AM, kbub wrote:
: :
: : DDO should discredit support of sexual violence at any time and in every way.
:
: I disagree.
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12/4/2011 9:57:56 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/4/2011 9:49:07 AM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/4/2011 9:42:45 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 12/4/2011 9:40:25 AM, headphonegut wrote:
At 12/4/2011 9:22:55 AM, socialpinko wrote:
VTL Homosacer. I've never played with him before and I believe this is his first game. Obviously as a total noob he's more likely to make a mistake.

@DNinja
Your vote makes absolutely no sense. HPG voted for F-29 out of the blue. This doesn't mean he has to claim anything. Plus F-58's point was valid. I don't have a character either so HPG asking for a character claim is suspicious.

NO it isn't suspicious I just got mixed up I haven't played in a classic game in a while I assumed I had I character I just glanced at my role so I could post first :P and so what if his vote doesn't make sense he can vote for whoever the hell he wants.

Regardless of your reasoning after the fact, at that moment it was a suspicious move on your part. And I obviously can't change his vote, mafia games are about discussion. I haven't played with you in a while I think so I can't remember if you play this way every game or not.

I claimed before it would get out of hand and I admitted I was wrong and I posted before you did that I was wrong

Look at my original post. I was addressing DNinja on his own vote against F-581. At the time he issued his vote, you had not explained or role claimed.
: At 9/29/2014 10:55:59 AM, imabench wrote:
: : At 9/29/2014 9:43:46 AM, kbub wrote:
: :
: : DDO should discredit support of sexual violence at any time and in every way.
:
: I disagree.
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12/4/2011 10:00:16 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/4/2011 9:47:17 AM, socialpinko wrote:


So to bypass this problem, you just go passed the middle man and pressure possibly the best player in the game? Which do you think has more probability of making a mistake, the noob with advice or the best mafioso on DDO?

Even more important than the possibility of a mistake is the thrill of a challenge. HomoSacer would probably just give up without a fight and it won't be a big deal.

Also, if Bluesteel role-claims now and is an important townie role, we can get the doc on him to make sure that he is not targetted. If he gets counterclaimed, then we will have knocked out the mafia's biggest asset on DP1 itself. It is a win-win.
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12/4/2011 10:02:22 AM
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At 12/4/2011 10:00:16 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 12/4/2011 9:47:17 AM, socialpinko wrote:


So to bypass this problem, you just go passed the middle man and pressure possibly the best player in the game? Which do you think has more probability of making a mistake, the noob with advice or the best mafioso on DDO?

Even more important than the possibility of a mistake is the thrill of a challenge. HomoSacer would probably just give up without a fight and it won't be a big deal.

Also, if Bluesteel role-claims now and is an important townie role, we can get the doc on him to make sure that he is not targetted. If he gets counterclaimed, then we will have knocked out the mafia's biggest asset on DP1 itself. It is a win-win.

and now the doc is pinned on blueS for the rest of the game?
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12/4/2011 10:03:40 AM
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At 12/4/2011 10:02:22 AM, headphonegut wrote:

and now the doc is pinned on blueS for the rest of the game?

It is the exact same problem with HS but with the disadvantage that if he does happen to be mafia, then we only knocked out a mafia noob which isn't such a big break.
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12/4/2011 10:05:44 AM
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At 12/4/2011 10:03:40 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 12/4/2011 10:02:22 AM, headphonegut wrote:

and now the doc is pinned on blueS for the rest of the game?

It is the exact same problem with HS but with the disadvantage that if he does happen to be mafia, then we only knocked out a mafia noob which isn't such a big break.

we knocked out a mafia it doesn't matter if he is a noob
it matters when he's town because he might not now what the mafia would be thinking and what their night kill might be so acting accordingly not just randomly
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