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Danielle
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12/11/2011 5:01:26 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
== Living Players ==

01. F-16
02. tvellalott
03. drafterman
04. Medic
05. bluesteel
06. PartamRuhem
07. Thaddeus
08. Blackhawk1331
09. Viper-King
10. nonentity
11. socialpinko
12. Lickdafoot 2
13. DetectableNinja
14. Logic_on_rails
15. Wierdman
16. Ore_Ele
17. Homo_Sacer
18. Spritle 2
19. Cobo

== Graveyard ==

Andromeda_Z: You are the Mason Recruiter. Every even numbered night phase, you may attempt to recruit one player into a private group discussion. If you attempt to recruit someone who is not aligned with the town, you will die.

Raisor 1: You are the Suicide Bomber. If you are lynched during the day phase, you may take down another player of your choice if you so choose. You win with the town.

Spritle 1: Town, Cop
Lickdafoot 1: Town, Messenger
headphonegut: Town, Politician
CapLlock: Mafia, Stalker

== Mod Notes ==

You need 10 votes to carry out a lynch.

Raisor 2 has replaced blackhawk1331.
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Danielle
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12/11/2011 5:02:00 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Edit.

== Living Players ==

01. F-16
02. tvellalott
03. drafterman
04. Medic
05. bluesteel
06. PartamRuhem
07. Thaddeus
08. Raisor 2
09. Viper-King
10. nonentity
11. socialpinko
12. Lickdafoot 2
13. DetectableNinja
14. Logic_on_rails
15. Wierdman
16. Ore_Ele
17. Homo_Sacer
18. Spritle 2
19. Cobo
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DetectableNinja
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12/11/2011 5:04:46 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
So are we still waiting for TVs results, then?
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12/11/2011 5:09:43 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/11/2011 5:04:46 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
So are we still waiting for TVs results, then?

OK!
So, as far as my results tell me Spritle, F-16 and medic0506 are confirmed town.
There was fvck all for me to test yesterday, so I tested Spritle's claim he was the forensic investigator, which was true. I tested F-16's "I win with the town" DP2.

And I already said I tested medic.

People, please remember to say "I win with the town" every day phase or my power is useless.
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bluesteel
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12/11/2011 5:12:11 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Anyone have any idea what happened last DP?
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
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12/11/2011 5:21:42 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/11/2011 5:09:43 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 12/11/2011 5:04:46 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
So are we still waiting for TVs results, then?

OK!
So, as far as my results tell me Spritle, F-16 and medic0506 are confirmed town.
There was fvck all for me to test yesterday, so I tested Spritle's claim he was the forensic investigator, which was true. I tested F-16's "I win with the town" DP2.

And I already said I tested medic.

People, please remember to say "I win with the town" every day phase or my power is useless.

I win with the town.

Hm, F-16 has the exact same role though as raisor1, except his version is what mafiascum calls it http://mafiascum.net...(role) Mods have used this role before but made up their own name, like danielle did. This is perfectly consistent with him looking his fake claim up on mafia scum.

Are you certain of your results tv? F-16 could be some kind of LD-proof godfather. I don't get how you're so confident he's town. Read raisor1's role. The description is exactly the same. In a world where raisor1 was more active, he'd have cc'ed F-16.
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12/11/2011 5:31:53 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/11/2011 5:09:43 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 12/11/2011 5:04:46 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
So are we still waiting for TVs results, then?

OK!
So, as far as my results tell me Spritle, F-16 and medic0506 are confirmed town.
There was fvck all for me to test yesterday, so I tested Spritle's claim he was the forensic investigator, which was true. I tested F-16's "I win with the town" DP2.

And I already said I tested medic.

People, please remember to say "I win with the town" every day phase or my power is useless.

How about my win with the town claim?

It would've avoided any night deaths.
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12/11/2011 5:34:18 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Okay, this might end up with me getting lynched for lying but in the interests of helping the town, I will reveal everything.

I am not a vengeful townie. I made it up. I am actually the Role Keeper. Each Night, I can check to see if a certain role is in the game.

NP1: I checked to see if a PGO is in the game. Answer: Yes

NP2: I checked to see if a Lie Detector was in the game. Answer: Yes

NP3: I checked to see if a Cult Recruiter was in the game. Answer: No

This proves that Ore_Ele and TV are town, and there is no cult.

The reason I lied about my role was that I believed it to be the most powerful one in the game. It stops the mafia from fake-claiming which makes life incredibly difficult for mafia. It is unaffected by framing, lawyering, godfathers, etc.

In DP1, I was getting pressured to claim, I tried to avoid claiming. I could have claimed and had the Doc on me but there were many problems with my idea:

1) Danielle had no Doc in the classic game.

2) People thought I was somewhat suspicious so they might not put the Doc on me.

3) Others may not have thought my role was important enough.

4) I might be role-blocked the entire game.

I knew there were other important roles in the game and having the doc tied on me may get other investigative roles killed. Claiming my true role on DP1 would have nullified its effect without giving any useful results. I thought my best chance at that point to put my role to good use was to say that I had another not so important role so that the mafia would leave me alone.

It never occurred to me at all to have the Watcher on me.

Also, this was DP1 pressure and it is not always a good idea to role-claim on DP1. The votes were piling on and I did not know how I could better have kept my power role hidden as no one seemed to want to relent.
DetectableNinja
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12/11/2011 5:39:16 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
VTL DetectableNinja.

I was under the understand DP2 that my township would be confirmed, but that apparently hasn't happened because the people that were supposed to investigate me failed to do so.

I'm just going out on a limb here and just saying it: lynch me if there isn't any conclusive proof of mafia.That way, there will be no kills happening tonight. It may actually be tomorrow night due to wording, but 1) I interpret it to be tonight, and 2) even if it IS tomorrow, it doesn't matter: it's still early.
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F-16_Fighting_Falcon
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12/11/2011 5:50:57 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I'll make a list of confirmed and unconfirmed players:

Confirmed Players
01. F-16 - Rolekeeper, confirmed by TV
02. tvellalott - Lie Detector, confirmed by F16
03. Spritle 2 - Confirmed by TV
04. Medic - Confirmed by TV
05. Ore_Ele - Confirmed by F16

Role Claimed
06. drafterman - One shot Day Sheriff
07. DetectableNinja - Virgin

Unconfirmed as of now
08. Blackhawk1331
09. Viper-King
10. nonentity
11. socialpinko
12. Lickdafoot 2
13. Thaddeus
14. Logic_on_rails
15. Wierdman
16. bluesteel
17. Homo_Sacer
18. PartamRuhem
19. Cobo
PartamRuhem
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12/11/2011 5:53:33 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/11/2011 5:12:11 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Anyone have any idea what happened last DP?

Every odd DP I can override a lynch and cause one person to be lynched. Pretty awesome, I know. I win with the town, in case you guys don't believe me. I thought we were going to get sidetracked with that CAPlock thing, and decided to just get him killed because of the results.

Watcher on me
nonentity
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12/11/2011 5:55:08 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/11/2011 5:53:33 PM, PartamRuhem wrote:
At 12/11/2011 5:12:11 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Anyone have any idea what happened last DP?

Every odd DP I can override a lynch and cause one person to be lynched. Pretty awesome, I know. I win with the town, in case you guys don't believe me. I thought we were going to get sidetracked with that CAPlock thing, and decided to just get him killed because of the results.

Watcher on me

Ignore my question lol
tvellalott
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12/11/2011 5:55:11 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/11/2011 5:21:42 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Are you certain of your results tv?

As I said, as far as my results go, those three players are confirmed town.
Anyone could be anything really.
I could be naive lie detector for all I know. :/
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DetectableNinja
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12/11/2011 5:56:04 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
F16--what is the description of your role?

WARNING: RANT AHEAD!

If it is a confirming role, why wasn't I confirmed? It was EXPLICITLY stated that I should be confirmed by not only myself, but others as well on DP2...and everyone has failed to do so. The longer I am alive, the higher my chances of getting scumkilled.
/rant
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12/11/2011 6:00:41 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/11/2011 5:56:04 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
F16--what is the description of your role?

WARNING: RANT AHEAD!

If it is a confirming role, why wasn't I confirmed? It was EXPLICITLY stated that I should be confirmed by not only myself, but others as well on DP2...and everyone has failed to do so. The longer I am alive, the higher my chances of getting scumkilled.
/rant

I can check to see if a specific role is in the game. I didn't check your role because I believed. Besides, you were pretty much ASKING to be lynched. It wouldn't have been a good idea.

Confirming that a PGO is in the game was better as there was NO other way of confirming a PGO.

Confirming TV was better since he was going to confirm a whole bunch of other people.

There was really no benefit to confirming you. You basically WANTED to be lynched. Why would I confirm you and then lynch you?
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12/11/2011 6:01:08 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/11/2011 5:55:11 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 12/11/2011 5:21:42 PM, bluesteel wrote:
Are you certain of your results tv?

As I said, as far as my results go, those three players are confirmed town.
Anyone could be anything really.
I could be naive lie detector for all I know. :/

Lol, did you read F-16's clarification. I was definitely right about his role being fake, but your results make a lot more sense now.
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12/11/2011 6:02:29 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/11/2011 6:00:41 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 12/11/2011 5:56:04 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
F16--what is the description of your role?

WARNING: RANT AHEAD!

If it is a confirming role, why wasn't I confirmed? It was EXPLICITLY stated that I should be confirmed by not only myself, but others as well on DP2...and everyone has failed to do so. The longer I am alive, the higher my chances of getting scumkilled.
/rant

I can check to see if a specific role is in the game. I didn't check your role because I believed. Besides, you were pretty much ASKING to be lynched. It wouldn't have been a good idea.

Confirming that a PGO is in the game was better as there was NO other way of confirming a PGO.

Confirming TV was better since he was going to confirm a whole bunch of other people.

There was really no benefit to confirming you. You basically WANTED to be lynched. Why would I confirm you and then lynch you?

Because while there were other people who believed, I think people are afraid to go through with it due to a Jester-fear.
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I tell thee, 'tis not half so fair as thou
Or any man that breathes on earth.

- Christopher Marlowe, Doctor Faustus
nonentity
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12/11/2011 6:09:18 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Umm I don't know if this counts as cheating or not... but when DP1 was first posted Capslock sent me a PM saying he doesn't know what's going on... I informed him that he was not allowed to PM other players and to direct all this questions to Danielle. The first people to post in DP1 were HPG, G-16, Dninja, social, and medic. It's more likely that Capslock would have messaged his mafia buddies had they been online. So I'm inclined to believe the above mentioned people are town.
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12/11/2011 6:16:51 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/11/2011 6:09:18 PM, nonentity wrote:
Umm I don't know if this counts as cheating or not... but when DP1 was first posted Capslock sent me a PM saying he doesn't know what's going on... I informed him that he was not allowed to PM other players and to direct all this questions to Danielle. The first people to post in DP1 were HPG, G-16, Dninja, social, and medic. It's more likely that Capslock would have messaged his mafia buddies had they been online. So I'm inclined to believe the above mentioned people are town.

Ahh well I guess that could also incriminate me as being one of his mafia buddies >.< But I'm not lol
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12/11/2011 7:05:25 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I think we'll find most of our mafia in the following:

bluesteel
thaddeus
blackhawk
viper-king
home-sacer
cobo
weirdman

I'm not entirely sure of Partam... even though he ended the DP it could have been a mafia tactic to stop us from getting more information.

I think we should get a couple more claims and then lynch Dninja.
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12/11/2011 7:16:52 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/11/2011 5:50:57 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
I'll make a list of confirmed and unconfirmed players:

Confirmed Players
01. F-16 - Rolekeeper, confirmed by TV
02. tvellalott - Lie Detector, confirmed by F16
03. Spritle 2 - Confirmed by TV
04. Medic - Confirmed by TV
05. Ore_Ele - Confirmed by F16

Role Claimed
06. drafterman - One shot Day Sheriff
07. DetectableNinja - Virgin

Unconfirmed as of now
08. Blackhawk1331
09. Viper-King
10. nonentity
11. socialpinko
12. Lickdafoot 2
13. Thaddeus
14. Logic_on_rails
15. Wierdman
16. bluesteel
17. Homo_Sacer
18. PartamRuhem
19. Cobo

I was confirmed by the mod, I didn't role claim.
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12/11/2011 8:10:16 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/11/2011 7:16:52 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 12/11/2011 5:50:57 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
I'll make a list of confirmed and unconfirmed players:

Confirmed Players
01. F-16 - Rolekeeper, confirmed by TV
02. tvellalott - Lie Detector, confirmed by F16
03. Spritle 2 - Confirmed by TV
04. Medic - Confirmed by TV
05. Ore_Ele - Confirmed by F16

Role Claimed
06. drafterman - One shot Day Sheriff
07. DetectableNinja - Virgin

Unconfirmed as of now
08. Blackhawk1331
09. Viper-King
10. nonentity
11. socialpinko
12. Lickdafoot 2
13. Thaddeus
14. Logic_on_rails
15. Wierdman
16. bluesteel
17. Homo_Sacer
18. PartamRuhem
19. Cobo

I was confirmed by the mod, I didn't role claim.

We need more information. I say pressure people for more claims. VTL Viper-Claim Role, please.
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12/11/2011 8:52:54 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
No one wants to lynch me for lying? Well, that is a pleasant surprise. I didn't expect it to turn out that way as plenty of people would LAL.

Viper is obviously online and was posting in the other beginner's game so

VTL Viper
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12/11/2011 8:58:23 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 12/11/2011 8:52:54 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
No one wants to lynch me for lying? Well, that is a pleasant surprise. I didn't expect it to turn out that way as plenty of people would LAL.

Viper is obviously online and was posting in the other beginner's game so

VTL Viper

If you want to bring scrutiny upon yourself, sure.

Why did you check the PGO role NP1?