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Beginner 5.1 - Day Phase 2

bluesteel
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1/6/2012 8:47:17 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
== Active Players ==

1. CAPS
2. royalpaladin
3. MasterKage
4. Vmpire321
5. Jordan56
6. esisCOA
7. 16kadams
8.Viper-King

== Graveyard ==

Lordknukle - town
Chthonian - town

It takes 5 votes to lynch.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
vmpire321
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1/6/2012 8:49:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
CAPS
16kadams
Viper-King

Have all been surprisingly inactive. 3 mafia... fits the role.

Jordan also doesn't seem to post much.
esisCOA
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1/6/2012 8:57:17 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/6/2012 8:55:23 PM, vmpire321 wrote:
At 1/6/2012 8:54:40 PM, esisCOA wrote:
VTL vmpire

Wtf. Why?

because 2 confirmed townies had suspicions about you.
royalpaladin
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1/6/2012 8:58:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Keep in mind that I will also be inactive tomorrow until the evening.

VTL Vmpire for pressure.

Ok, so it makes sense to me that the mod would include n00bs in the mafia in a purely psychological game because including all of them in the town would be detrimental since they have not yet learned about psychological readings. Vmpire seems like he is mafia because he pushed so hard for the lynch against Knuckle, who was innocent.
royalpaladin
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1/6/2012 8:59:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/6/2012 8:57:17 PM, esisCOA wrote:
At 1/6/2012 8:55:23 PM, vmpire321 wrote:
At 1/6/2012 8:54:40 PM, esisCOA wrote:
VTL vmpire

Wtf. Why?

because 2 confirmed townies had suspicions about you.

That really does not mean anything, but ok.
vmpire321
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1/6/2012 8:59:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/6/2012 8:54:40 PM, esisCOA wrote:
VTL vmpire

If anything, it's you who is guilty.

1. You were first to lynch. Overly aggressive attitudes tend to suggest Mafia behavior.
2. You were the first to condemn LK. You're the reason why I started actively pushing for LK's lynch. You pointed out everything about him.
3. You constantly pushed for the lynch
4. You fought Cthonian minimally, yet he was the one to die. Mafia tend to NK people who aren't fighting with them - simply to frame other people.
16kadams
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1/6/2012 9:00:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/6/2012 8:49:39 PM, vmpire321 wrote:
CAPS
16kadams
Viper-King

Have all been surprisingly inactive. 3 mafia... fits the role.

Jordan also doesn't seem to post much.

have fun lynching a town
https://www.youtube.com...
https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
"A trend is a trend, but the question is, will it bend? Will it alter its course through some unforeseen force and come to a premature end?" -- Alec Cairncross
royalpaladin
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1/6/2012 9:00:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/6/2012 8:59:31 PM, vmpire321 wrote:
VTL Esis

Vmpire, I do not trust you. Why were you actively pushing for a lynch against Knuckle? You need to explain this. Also, you fought with Cthonian and he died. Would you mind explaining why?
esisCOA
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1/6/2012 9:01:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/6/2012 8:57:17 PM, esisCOA wrote:
At 1/6/2012 8:55:23 PM, vmpire321 wrote:
At 1/6/2012 8:54:40 PM, esisCOA wrote:
VTL vmpire

Wtf. Why?

because 2 confirmed townies had suspicions about you.

also I felt you became to friendly with me.
royalpaladin
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1/6/2012 9:01:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/6/2012 9:00:34 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 1/6/2012 8:49:39 PM, vmpire321 wrote:
CAPS
16kadams
Viper-King

Have all been surprisingly inactive. 3 mafia... fits the role.

Jordan also doesn't seem to post much.

have fun lynching a town

The thing is, mafia tend to lurk/not post because they do not want to draw attention to themselves.
16kadams
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1/6/2012 9:01:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
VTL esis

obvious reasons
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"A trend is a trend, but the question is, will it bend? Will it alter its course through some unforeseen force and come to a premature end?" -- Alec Cairncross
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1/6/2012 9:01:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/6/2012 8:58:41 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Keep in mind that I will also be inactive tomorrow until the evening.

VTL Vmpire for pressure.

Ok, so it makes sense to me that the mod would include n00bs in the mafia in a purely psychological game because including all of them in the town would be detrimental since they have not yet learned about psychological readings. Vmpire seems like he is mafia because he pushed so hard for the lynch against Knuckle, who was innocent.

Mafia wouldn't be purely made of noobs. There is more than likely going to be an experienced player. *hint hint*

And I wasn't the only one to push for the lynch.
16kadams
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1/6/2012 9:01:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/6/2012 9:01:13 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/6/2012 9:00:34 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 1/6/2012 8:49:39 PM, vmpire321 wrote:
CAPS
16kadams
Viper-King

Have all been surprisingly inactive. 3 mafia... fits the role.

Jordan also doesn't seem to post much.

have fun lynching a town

The thing is, mafia tend to lurk/not post because they do not want to draw attention to themselves.

I was offline
https://www.youtube.com...
https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
"A trend is a trend, but the question is, will it bend? Will it alter its course through some unforeseen force and come to a premature end?" -- Alec Cairncross
royalpaladin
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1/6/2012 9:02:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/6/2012 9:01:09 PM, esisCOA wrote:
At 1/6/2012 8:57:17 PM, esisCOA wrote:
At 1/6/2012 8:55:23 PM, vmpire321 wrote:
At 1/6/2012 8:54:40 PM, esisCOA wrote:
VTL vmpire

Wtf. Why?

because 2 confirmed townies had suspicions about you.

also I felt you became to friendly with me.

Hold on.

You started the lynch, but are accusing him because he pushed for it also? Why does that not make you suspicious?
16kadams
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1/6/2012 9:02:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/6/2012 9:01:55 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 1/6/2012 9:01:13 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/6/2012 9:00:34 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 1/6/2012 8:49:39 PM, vmpire321 wrote:
CAPS
16kadams
Viper-King

Have all been surprisingly inactive. 3 mafia... fits the role.

Jordan also doesn't seem to post much.

have fun lynching a town

The thing is, mafia tend to lurk/not post because they do not want to draw attention to themselves.

I was offline

and DEBATING
https://www.youtube.com...
https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
"A trend is a trend, but the question is, will it bend? Will it alter its course through some unforeseen force and come to a premature end?" -- Alec Cairncross
royalpaladin
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1/6/2012 9:03:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/6/2012 8:59:11 PM, vmpire321 wrote:
At 1/6/2012 8:54:40 PM, esisCOA wrote:
VTL vmpire

If anything, it's you who is guilty.

1. You were first to lynch. Overly aggressive attitudes tend to suggest Mafia behavior.
2. You were the first to condemn LK. You're the reason why I started actively pushing for LK's lynch. You pointed out everything about him.
3. You constantly pushed for the lynch
4. You fought Cthonian minimally, yet he was the one to die. Mafia tend to NK people who aren't fighting with them - simply to frame other people.

Actually, I think I buy this.

Unvote
Vote esis
vmpire321
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1/6/2012 9:03:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/6/2012 9:01:09 PM, esisCOA wrote:
At 1/6/2012 8:57:17 PM, esisCOA wrote:
At 1/6/2012 8:55:23 PM, vmpire321 wrote:
At 1/6/2012 8:54:40 PM, esisCOA wrote:
VTL vmpire

Wtf. Why?

because 2 confirmed townies had suspicions about you.

also I felt you became to friendly with me.

I thought you were a townie. You acted like one. You're seeming less likely to be Townie.

Townies would value relationships more often - the town wins by functioning by a whole.
You here are trying to split up the group we have.
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1/6/2012 9:04:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/6/2012 9:02:05 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/6/2012 9:01:09 PM, esisCOA wrote:
At 1/6/2012 8:57:17 PM, esisCOA wrote:
At 1/6/2012 8:55:23 PM, vmpire321 wrote:
At 1/6/2012 8:54:40 PM, esisCOA wrote:
VTL vmpire

Wtf. Why?

because 2 confirmed townies had suspicions about you.

also I felt you became to friendly with me.

Hold on.

You started the lynch, but are accusing him because he pushed for it also? Why does that not make you suspicious?

See my other reason.
royalpaladin
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1/6/2012 9:04:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
What sold me was that esis STARTED that lynch. As knuckle himself has pointed out before in previous games, mafia start lynches and leave others to do their work for them.
16kadams
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1/6/2012 9:05:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/6/2012 9:04:36 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
What sold me was that esis STARTED that lynch. As knuckle himself has pointed out before in previous games, mafia start lynches and leave others to do their work for them.

yes but although I agree it is not solid proof. jm notguilty did that once and he was a town.
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https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
"A trend is a trend, but the question is, will it bend? Will it alter its course through some unforeseen force and come to a premature end?" -- Alec Cairncross
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1/6/2012 9:05:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/6/2012 9:04:36 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
What sold me was that esis STARTED that lynch. As knuckle himself has pointed out before in previous games, mafia start lynches and leave others to do their work for them.

Jeez, you make me seem like a slave. Or someone who has been taken advantage of. I don't like that :>)
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1/6/2012 9:07:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/6/2012 9:05:40 PM, vmpire321 wrote:
At 1/6/2012 9:04:36 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
What sold me was that esis STARTED that lynch. As knuckle himself has pointed out before in previous games, mafia start lynches and leave others to do their work for them.

Jeez, you make me seem like a slave. Or someone who has been taken advantage of. I don't like that :>)

lol.
https://www.youtube.com...
https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
"A trend is a trend, but the question is, will it bend? Will it alter its course through some unforeseen force and come to a premature end?" -- Alec Cairncross
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1/6/2012 9:07:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/6/2012 9:05:35 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 1/6/2012 9:04:36 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
What sold me was that esis STARTED that lynch. As knuckle himself has pointed out before in previous games, mafia start lynches and leave others to do their work for them.

yes but although I agree it is not solid proof. jm notguilty did that once and he was a town.

He also
1. Fought Cth minimally, yet he was probably the only person against his idea, that he started. WtF? What normal person would do this? I know if my theory was being rejected, I would try to defend it.
Furthermore guess what? Cth was Nked. This suggests that Esis is the one who killed him.
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1/6/2012 9:07:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Obvious mafia is obvious.
"Easy is the descent to Avernus, for the door to the Underworld lies upon both day and night. But to retrace your steps and return to the breezes above- that's the task, that's the toil."
royalpaladin
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1/6/2012 9:08:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/6/2012 9:07:32 PM, vmpire321 wrote:
At 1/6/2012 9:05:35 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 1/6/2012 9:04:36 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
What sold me was that esis STARTED that lynch. As knuckle himself has pointed out before in previous games, mafia start lynches and leave others to do their work for them.

yes but although I agree it is not solid proof. jm notguilty did that once and he was a town.

He also
1. Fought Cth minimally, yet he was probably the only person against his idea, that he started. WtF? What normal person would do this? I know if my theory was being rejected, I would try to defend it.
Furthermore guess what? Cth was Nked. This suggests that Esis is the one who killed him.

He explicitly said that he wanted Cthonian dead.