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Dethy Concept game 2.0 - DP1

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1/12/2012 10:41:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
The last one was really quick so I am making another one with the same rules. There is a sane cop, insane cop, paranoid cop, naive cop and a mafia goon. The game starts at NP0 with a cop head start.

Active Players

1) Andromeda_Z
2) MTorres
3) Lickdafoot
4) DetectableNinja
5) Xerge

It takes 3 votes to lynch.

All standard mafia rules apply.
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1/12/2012 10:44:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/12/2012 10:42:52 PM, Lickdafoot wrote:
hmm.. we should start by all outing our results. i got inno on m.torres.

I recieved a guilty on him
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1/12/2012 10:45:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I got Innocent on Dninja.
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

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1/12/2012 10:45:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
We should NOT vote until we get all results.
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
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1/12/2012 10:47:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I'm weighing the pros and cons of lynching this day phase. If we lynch, there is a good chance it will be a miss. We won't really have much to go on, but we do get an extra dp to lynch the mafia (f-16 said only 2 dps right?) If we no lynch, we bring it down to four tomorrow. I guess by the second day phase, our odds are actually better if we lynch today.
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1/12/2012 10:51:25 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/12/2012 10:49:25 PM, Lickdafoot wrote:
one gets all guilties, one gets all innocent, one gets backwards, and one gets correct results, right?

And one lies! Yes!
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
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1/12/2012 11:05:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
LDF received Innocent on M.Torres
Xerge received Guilty on M.Torres
M.Torres received Innocent on Dninja
Andro received Guilty on M.Torres

Looks like the best course of action would be to VTL myself. I love the idea of this game because Mafia can't buddy - and it also means even if the Sane Cop is killed, we can still figure out who is guilty.

I still say we should wait for DNinja, but based on these results, my death would clear up who's who.
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
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1/12/2012 11:06:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Or... we could VTNL and investigate all the same person, I guess? Based on the current the results, I'm sure we could figure out a person who's reasonably innocent and work from there, maybe?

Better yet would probably be to lynch myself and all choose to investigate the same person for the next DP.
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
Andromeda_Z
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1/12/2012 11:09:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/12/2012 11:05:18 PM, M.Torres wrote:
LDF received Innocent on M.Torres
Xerge received Guilty on M.Torres
M.Torres received Innocent on Dninja
Andro received Guilty on M.Torres

Looks like the best course of action would be to VTL myself. I love the idea of this game because Mafia can't buddy - and it also means even if the Sane Cop is killed, we can still figure out who is guilty.

I still say we should wait for DNinja, but based on these results, my death would clear up who's who.

I was thinking the same thing. I definitely want to hear from Ninja first, but if you don't mind, i think this could really clear a lot of things up for the town. I get the feeling this DP will be a mislynch (if you were guilty, you'd be an idiot to propose this plan because you have no teammates to secure the win for you), but not really because we will learn so much from it. Lol at everyone investigating you, though.
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1/12/2012 11:10:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Am I allowed to post a suggestion?
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1/12/2012 11:10:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/12/2012 11:09:09 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
At 1/12/2012 11:05:18 PM, M.Torres wrote:
LDF received Innocent on M.Torres
Xerge received Guilty on M.Torres
M.Torres received Innocent on Dninja
Andro received Guilty on M.Torres

Looks like the best course of action would be to VTL myself. I love the idea of this game because Mafia can't buddy - and it also means even if the Sane Cop is killed, we can still figure out who is guilty.

I still say we should wait for DNinja, but based on these results, my death would clear up who's who.

I was thinking the same thing. I definitely want to hear from Ninja first, but if you don't mind, i think this could really clear a lot of things up for the town. I get the feeling this DP will be a mislynch (if you were guilty, you'd be an idiot to propose this plan because you have no teammates to secure the win for you), but not really because we will learn so much from it. Lol at everyone investigating you, though.

I think it makes sense - after all, I win with the team, so as long as the Mafia is killed I'm fine with that.

But remember Town, Andro agreeing with my plan doesn't mean she's innocent. ;)
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
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1/12/2012 11:10:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/12/2012 11:10:14 PM, OberHerr wrote:
Am I allowed to post a suggestion?

NO ;P
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
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1/12/2012 11:13:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/12/2012 11:10:20 PM, M.Torres wrote:
I think it makes sense - after all, I win with the team, so as long as the Mafia is killed I'm fine with that.

Which is why I thin you're town and I'm one of the flavored cops. I'm not sure which.

But remember Town, Andro agreeing with my plan doesn't mean she's innocent. ;)

If you don't believe me, investigate me. :p
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1/12/2012 11:13:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/12/2012 11:13:10 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
At 1/12/2012 11:10:20 PM, M.Torres wrote:
I think it makes sense - after all, I win with the team, so as long as the Mafia is killed I'm fine with that.

Which is why I think you're town and I'm one of the flavored cops. I'm not sure which.

But remember Town, Andro agreeing with my plan doesn't mean she's innocent. ;)

If you don't believe me, investigate me. :p
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1/12/2012 11:14:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/12/2012 11:10:14 PM, OberHerr wrote:
Am I allowed to post a suggestion?

I know you mean well but its best to let us figure it out on our own.
M.Torres
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1/12/2012 11:14:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/12/2012 11:13:10 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
At 1/12/2012 11:10:20 PM, M.Torres wrote:
I think it makes sense - after all, I win with the team, so as long as the Mafia is killed I'm fine with that.

Which is why I thin you're town and I'm one of the flavored cops. I'm not sure which.

Well, I'd say Paranoid or Insane.


But remember Town, Andro agreeing with my plan doesn't mean she's innocent. ;)

If you don't believe me, investigate me. :p

Maybe you should be the target for the next night, then?
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
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1/12/2012 11:15:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/12/2012 11:06:26 PM, M.Torres wrote:
Or... we could VTNL and investigate all the same person, I guess? Based on the current the results, I'm sure we could figure out a person who's reasonably innocent and work from there, maybe?

Better yet would probably be to lynch myself and all choose to investigate the same person for the next DP.

it doesn't necessarily clear anything up though to lynch you.

If you are guilty: xerge/andro would be paranoid, i would be insane or naive, xerge/andro would be sane

if you are inno: xerge/andro would be paranoid or insane, i would inno

Or any of us could be lying.

I guess it could help depending on what we discover tomorrow. it would limit the options.

the fact that you offered lynching yourself makes me think you are implying that you are town, which seems wifom-y because it logically doesn't make much sense to me to kill you based off of the three results, but idk. it could mean you are town. this set-up is tricky!
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1/12/2012 11:16:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/12/2012 11:14:18 PM, M.Torres wrote:
At 1/12/2012 11:13:10 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
At 1/12/2012 11:10:20 PM, M.Torres wrote:
I think it makes sense - after all, I win with the team, so as long as the Mafia is killed I'm fine with that.

Which is why I thin you're town and I'm one of the flavored cops. I'm not sure which.

Well, I'd say Paranoid or Insane.

I'm definitely one of the two. Hopefully we'll be able to figure it out tomorrow.


But remember Town, Andro agreeing with my plan doesn't mean she's innocent. ;)

If you don't believe me, investigate me. :p

Maybe you should be the target for the next night, then?

Okay, sounds good. Who should I investigate? Or does that not really matter for the plan
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1/12/2012 11:17:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/12/2012 11:16:22 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
At 1/12/2012 11:14:18 PM, M.Torres wrote:
At 1/12/2012 11:13:10 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
At 1/12/2012 11:10:20 PM, M.Torres wrote:
I think it makes sense - after all, I win with the team, so as long as the Mafia is killed I'm fine with that.

Which is why I thin you're town and I'm one of the flavored cops. I'm not sure which.

Well, I'd say Paranoid or Insane.

I'm definitely one of the two. Hopefully we'll be able to figure it out tomorrow.


But remember Town, Andro agreeing with my plan doesn't mean she's innocent. ;)

If you don't believe me, investigate me. :p

Maybe you should be the target for the next night, then?

Okay, sounds good. Who should I investigate? Or does that not really matter for the plan

I'd say investigate yourself as well.
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
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1/12/2012 11:18:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/12/2012 11:15:54 PM, Lickdafoot wrote:
At 1/12/2012 11:06:26 PM, M.Torres wrote:
Or... we could VTNL and investigate all the same person, I guess? Based on the current the results, I'm sure we could figure out a person who's reasonably innocent and work from there, maybe?

Better yet would probably be to lynch myself and all choose to investigate the same person for the next DP.

it doesn't necessarily clear anything up though to lynch you.

If you are guilty: xerge/andro would be paranoid, i would be insane or naive, xerge/andro would be sane

if you are inno: xerge/andro would be paranoid or insane, i would inno

Or any of us could be lying.

I guess it could help depending on what we discover tomorrow. it would limit the options.

That's what I'm thinking. Kill me to compare the results, and use the next day results by investigating all the same people.


the fact that you offered lynching yourself makes me think you are implying that you are town, which seems wifom-y because it logically doesn't make much sense to me to kill you based off of the three results, but idk. it could mean you are town. this set-up is tricky!
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
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1/12/2012 11:18:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/12/2012 11:15:54 PM, Lickdafoot wrote:
At 1/12/2012 11:06:26 PM, M.Torres wrote:
Or... we could VTNL and investigate all the same person, I guess? Based on the current the results, I'm sure we could figure out a person who's reasonably innocent and work from there, maybe?

Better yet would probably be to lynch myself and all choose to investigate the same person for the next DP.

it doesn't necessarily clear anything up though to lynch you.

If you are guilty: xerge/andro would be paranoid, i would be insane or naive, xerge/andro would be sane

if you are inno: xerge/andro would be paranoid or insane, i would inno

Or any of us could be lying.

I guess it could help depending on what we discover tomorrow. it would limit the options.

the fact that you offered lynching yourself makes me think you are implying that you are town, which seems wifom-y because it logically doesn't make much sense to me to kill you based off of the three results, but idk. it could mean you are town. this set-up is tricky!

If this isn't WIFOM and he is town, we get another DP, some more info, and can have it all figured out. If it is WIFOM and he is mafia, then town wins if we lynch him. I can't think of a single way that his plan would not help the town in some way.
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1/12/2012 11:19:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/12/2012 11:15:54 PM, Lickdafoot wrote:
At 1/12/2012 11:06:26 PM, M.Torres wrote:
Or... we could VTNL and investigate all the same person, I guess? Based on the current the results, I'm sure we could figure out a person who's reasonably innocent and work from there, maybe?

Better yet would probably be to lynch myself and all choose to investigate the same person for the next DP.

it doesn't necessarily clear anything up though to lynch you.

If you are guilty: xerge/andro would be paranoid, i would be insane or naive, xerge/andro would be sane

if you are inno: xerge/andro would be paranoid or insane, i would be sane or naive

Or any of us could be lying.

I guess it could help depending on what we discover tomorrow. it would limit the options.

the fact that you offered lynching yourself makes me think you are implying that you are town, which seems wifom-y because it logically doesn't make much sense to me to kill you based off of the three results, but idk. it could mean you are town. this set-up is tricky!
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1/12/2012 11:22:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Okay. it makes sense. (now that he's stuck with it, torres is prob town. it'd be stupid to use that plan for wifom.) Let's get dninjas results then lynch m.torres.
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1/12/2012 11:57:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Anyone mind if I vote now? I know DNinja hasn't said his results yet, but I have to get some sleep and don't know when I'll be home from work tomorrow. Mafia won't be able to hammer anyway, it'll be 1/3 votes with 1 mafioso. He will have time.
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1/12/2012 11:59:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/12/2012 11:57:00 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
Anyone mind if I vote now? I know DNinja hasn't said his results yet, but I have to get some sleep and don't know when I'll be home from work tomorrow. Mafia won't be able to hammer anyway, it'll be 1/3 votes with 1 mafioso. He will have time.

sure go ahead.
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1/13/2012 12:02:07 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/12/2012 11:59:46 PM, Lickdafoot wrote:
At 1/12/2012 11:57:00 PM, Andromeda_Z wrote:
Anyone mind if I vote now? I know DNinja hasn't said his results yet, but I have to get some sleep and don't know when I'll be home from work tomorrow. Mafia won't be able to hammer anyway, it'll be 1/3 votes with 1 mafioso. He will have time.

sure go ahead.

VTL M.Torres.