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Beginners 6.3 - DAY PHASE ONE

drafterman
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2/9/2012 7:25:30 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Round 3 Introduction:

Introduction - Misinformation and Information Denial:

In 6.2 you were introduced to a variety of roles that will commonly appear in the game of Mafia. A majority of these roles provide valuable information that help figure out who the Mafia is. In fact, you were told to trust no one but yourself, and that results could be taken at face value.

No longer. In this game, the motto is: Trust no one, not even yourself.

Roles like Cops and Watchers can take center stage, as they have an unsurpassed ability to confirm Town and Mafia alike. As such, it is not uncommon to introduce opposing roles and flavors that interfere with these results.

Roles can commonly be attached to modifiers, also known as "flavors" which alter how that ability works. The player may or may not know that their role is flavored. Common flavors that are known to players include:

ODD/EVEN - The player's role only works on ODD or EVEN night phases.
NON-CONSECUTIVE - The player can use their role on any night they want, but not two nights in a row.
X-SHOT - The player can use their role a limited number of times.
% ROLES - Not commonly seen here, but some roles only have a percentage chance (usually 50/50) of working.

However, some flavors are secret modifiers to a person's roles. These are commonly applied to Cops in the following manner:

Sane - Gets accurate results
Insane - Gets opposite results
Naive - Always gets "Innocent"
Paranoid - Always gets "Guilty"
Random - Gets random results

Though these flavors appear mostly on Cop roles, any role may be "flavored." Occasionally a role will be "Naive". Naive roles do nothing, but the user of that role doesn't know that. As stated, these kinds flavors are secret and known only to the mods until the end of the game.

There are other forms of information manipulation, but you'll have to discover these on your own.

Set-Up:

This game will be a Closed Setup. No roles will be known in advance. Good luck!

Mod Note: Though this is a closed set-up, I will note that roles are not necessarily unique, which is another common element of flavored roles. Some duplicate roles complement each other, while others are red-herrings designed to make the town think.

Recommended Reading:
Introduction to Mafia: http://www.debate.org...
Introduction to Roles: http://www.debate.org...
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2/9/2012 7:26:59 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Living Players
1. DevonNetzley
2. kyro
3. OberHerr
4. Jordan56
5. vmpire321
6. MasterKage
7. USM
8. Xerge
9. The Wise And Venerable medic
10. The Piercing Intellect of Logic_on_Rails

With 10 players, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

blackhawk is my co-mod, and speaks with authority.

This Day Phase will end on 2/11 at 8:30am EST.
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2/9/2012 8:31:40 AM
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Umm, since he hasn't said there isn't a LD I win with the town.
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2/9/2012 8:41:11 AM
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Since we don't know the roles that are being used, there's a chance of having a lie detector in the game so, even though it's annoying, everyone say it...

I win with the town.
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2/9/2012 8:51:00 AM
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Ok, so umm, remember guys, there is a chance for more than one cop,watcher, tracker ect.

But, also, we should only reveal results after you study your results, to see if your flavored or not.
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2/9/2012 8:54:33 AM
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At 2/9/2012 8:41:11 AM, medic0506 wrote:
Since we don't know the roles that are being used, there's a chance of having a lie detector in the game so, even though it's annoying, everyone say it...

I win with the town.

I win with the town. ^.=.^
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2/9/2012 8:55:12 AM
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Mod Question: Could the flavored apply to ALL roles, or just certain ones?
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2/9/2012 8:59:20 AM
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At 2/9/2012 8:55:12 AM, OberHerr wrote:
Mod Question: Could the flavored apply to ALL roles, or just certain ones?

Any role has the potential to be flavored. Some flavors will be known, other flavors will not be revealed until the End Game, but may be deduced through the course of the game.
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2/9/2012 9:00:07 AM
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At 2/9/2012 8:59:20 AM, drafterman wrote:
At 2/9/2012 8:55:12 AM, OberHerr wrote:
Mod Question: Could the flavored apply to ALL roles, or just certain ones?

Any role has the potential to be flavored. Some flavors will be known, other flavors will not be revealed until the End Game, but may be deduced through the course of the game.

If you are asking if all roles are necessarily flavored, I cannot comment on that.
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2/9/2012 9:01:45 AM
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At 2/9/2012 9:00:07 AM, drafterman wrote:
At 2/9/2012 8:59:20 AM, drafterman wrote:
At 2/9/2012 8:55:12 AM, OberHerr wrote:
Mod Question: Could the flavored apply to ALL roles, or just certain ones?

Any role has the potential to be flavored. Some flavors will be known, other flavors will not be revealed until the End Game, but may be deduced through the course of the game.

If you are asking if all roles are necessarily flavored, I cannot comment on that.

Figured as much.
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kyro90
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2/9/2012 11:24:06 AM
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Alright everyone! I am here yay! I win with the town! :D
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2/9/2012 12:17:02 PM
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Wow this is akward lol. BTW, any status update? I dont have any time at the moment to read anything lol
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2/9/2012 12:27:25 PM
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NVM I am allowed for now.... So There is a VTL on logic... Is this to pressure for a RC or what?
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2/9/2012 12:46:43 PM
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At 2/9/2012 8:51:00 AM, OberHerr wrote:
Ok, so umm, remember guys, there is a chance for more than one cop,watcher, tracker ect.

But, also, we should only reveal results after you study your results, to see if your flavored or not.

How do you know if you are flavored?
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2/9/2012 1:48:32 PM
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Wow epic fail, I used RNG and I got #2 lol fail. I am not going to pressure myself so I will try again....
Alright its 9 soo....
Nah, I wont pressure right now. That would be mean... :P
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2/9/2012 1:54:51 PM
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At 2/9/2012 1:48:32 PM, kyro90 wrote:
Wow epic fail, I used RNG and I got #2 lol fail. I am not going to pressure myself so I will try again....
Alright its 9 soo....
Nah, I wont pressure right now. That would be mean... :P

Alright guys. I think I WILL pressure since it is onl natural... (If I didnt... I wouldnt be natural lol... *_*) So....

VTL Medic For Role claim
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2/9/2012 2:10:16 PM
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At 2/9/2012 12:46:43 PM, kyro90 wrote:
At 2/9/2012 8:51:00 AM, OberHerr wrote:
Ok, so umm, remember guys, there is a chance for more than one cop,watcher, tracker ect.

But, also, we should only reveal results after you study your results, to see if your flavored or not.

How do you know if you are flavored?

You may not know at first, but you may figure things out once more information becomes available as the game progresses
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2/9/2012 2:12:08 PM
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At 2/9/2012 2:11:14 PM, Xerge wrote:
Hmm...I add pressure to Logic

VTL Logic

Well we already have two....

Unvote VTL Logic
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2/9/2012 2:12:30 PM
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At 2/9/2012 1:54:51 PM, kyro90 wrote:
At 2/9/2012 1:48:32 PM, kyro90 wrote:
Wow epic fail, I used RNG and I got #2 lol fail. I am not going to pressure myself so I will try again....
Alright its 9 soo....
Nah, I wont pressure right now. That would be mean... :P

Alright guys. I think I WILL pressure since it is onl natural... (If I didnt... I wouldnt be natural lol... *_*) So....

VTL Medic For Role claim

Sorry but I'm not going to ruin my role just because of random pressure. If you learned anything from the last game it should have been that giving up our roles hurts the town and tells mafia exactly what to do. If you can come up with a case for why I'm suspicious, then I'll claim. Just a heads up, me being mafia last game has nothing to do with this game and does not count as a case.
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2/9/2012 2:14:10 PM
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At 2/9/2012 2:12:30 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 2/9/2012 1:54:51 PM, kyro90 wrote:
At 2/9/2012 1:48:32 PM, kyro90 wrote:
Wow epic fail, I used RNG and I got #2 lol fail. I am not going to pressure myself so I will try again....
Alright its 9 soo....
Nah, I wont pressure right now. That would be mean... :P

Alright guys. I think I WILL pressure since it is onl natural... (If I didnt... I wouldnt be natural lol... *_*) So....

VTL Medic For Role claim

Sorry but I'm not going to ruin my role just because of random pressure. If you learned anything from the last game it should have been that giving up our roles hurts the town and tells mafia exactly what to do. If you can come up with a case for why I'm suspicious, then I'll claim. Just a heads up, me being mafia last game has nothing to do with this game and does not count as a case.

Good point, but since everyone else is doing it, I voted Logic for now.
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2/9/2012 2:15:49 PM
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At 2/9/2012 2:14:10 PM, kyro90 wrote:
At 2/9/2012 2:12:30 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 2/9/2012 1:54:51 PM, kyro90 wrote:
At 2/9/2012 1:48:32 PM, kyro90 wrote:
Wow epic fail, I used RNG and I got #2 lol fail. I am not going to pressure myself so I will try again....
Alright its 9 soo....
Nah, I wont pressure right now. That would be mean... :P

Alright guys. I think I WILL pressure since it is onl natural... (If I didnt... I wouldnt be natural lol... *_*) So....

VTL Medic For Role claim

Sorry but I'm not going to ruin my role just because of random pressure. If you learned anything from the last game it should have been that giving up our roles hurts the town and tells mafia exactly what to do. If you can come up with a case for why I'm suspicious, then I'll claim. Just a heads up, me being mafia last game has nothing to do with this game and does not count as a case.

Good point, but since everyone else is doing it, I voted Logic for now.

I also only voted you for a claim, not becuase of last game. (I used a random number genorater and it picked you...)
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