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Mafia Discussion: Who Are You Afraid of

Buddamoose
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4/6/2012 6:32:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
-Royal
-Zaradi
-TUF
-Thaddeus

And for the sake of keeping it short ill leave it at that.
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UnStupendousMan
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4/6/2012 6:40:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I don't actually fear anybody, but I always try to get Royal out first, if I'm mafia. In addition (even though I have never really played with him) I really don't want Bluesteel on another team, also. Third, if Danielle plays, I am going to have to watch out, town or mafia. I guess I should be wary of Drafter, but I'm not. *shrugs*
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4/6/2012 6:42:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/6/2012 6:41:21 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:
Myself.

OH THIS-I-TY THIS THIS THIS!!! I was going to put that, but I decided not to for some reason. I watch myself to see if I'm doing anything stupid (which I probably am.)
Hardcore.Pwnography
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4/6/2012 6:45:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/6/2012 6:42:55 PM, UnStupendousMan wrote:
At 4/6/2012 6:41:21 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:
Myself.

OH THIS-I-TY THIS THIS THIS!!! I was going to put that, but I decided not to for some reason. I watch myself to see if I'm doing anything stupid (which I probably am.)

No seriously, I am one badass mafia player ;)
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4/6/2012 6:45:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/6/2012 6:45:01 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:
At 4/6/2012 6:42:55 PM, UnStupendousMan wrote:
At 4/6/2012 6:41:21 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:
Myself.

OH THIS-I-TY THIS THIS THIS!!! I was going to put that, but I decided not to for some reason. I watch myself to see if I'm doing anything stupid (which I probably am.)

No seriously, I am one badass mafia player ;)

I'm not, however.
Buddamoose
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4/6/2012 6:49:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
If i were another player and I saw myself joining a game I'd be thinkin one of two things:

Mafia: Ha hes gonna screw up and get lynched
Town: Easy mislynchhh
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
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"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

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Logic_on_rails
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4/6/2012 7:23:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
If a player is sufficiently they tend not to be 'afraid' per se. I know there are some players who will see through a disguise of mine, and some who will see through such disguises commonly. Why am I not 'afraid' then? Because the main way to die as Mafia is through lynches, and if one is sufficiently persuasive during the DP then one won't get lynched very often. It's quite rare for a single player to see through Mafia disguises and get a person with a good disguise lynched singlehandedly. Obviously, if my disguise is poor it's my fault, and so I'm not really afraid of anybody, but angry at myself.

Having said all that, Danielle is the only person I'd be afraid of as Mafia. I've always been seen through eventually if she's alive and I'm Mafia. While that hasn't always resulted in a lynch, it's uncanny. Most players I've sometimes tricked, so I'm not afraid of them. Danielle is an exception to that, which makes her so fearsome.

Of course, I'm likely interpreting 'afraid' to be a different thing to what the OP is referring to.
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BlackVoid
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4/6/2012 7:24:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
F-16 just because when he's active you have to do everything perfectly, because he's going to make sure all possible info is out before making a decision.

Other players like danielle/bluesteel, I havent been mafia much when they're town, so not enough info.
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4/6/2012 7:29:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

Sorry, but I have been mafia too few times with too many different people to consistently fear someone as town. That's not to say that there aren't excellent town players (F-16, medic, bluesteel) but if I am lynched as Mafia, then it is either my fault (Mob wars, Solar System) or Town got lucky (Pokemon).
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4/6/2012 7:32:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/6/2012 7:24:52 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
F-16 just because when he's active you have to do everything perfectly, because he's going to make sure all possible info is out before making a decision.

Other players like danielle/bluesteel, I havent been mafia much when they're town, so not enough info.

I'll concur with the F-16 notion, though I have only been "against" him once in Gangsters, but he was cult, then.
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4/6/2012 7:39:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I don't neccesarily fear anyone, and will be the the one to defend myself against any reasoning.

I fear whoever get's the bad results that implicate me though. I think there are a lot of people who are equally great threats though.

People who I consider a threat and will vote to kill off early on are:
1st: Drafterman

Other than that, it really just depends on the game. Drafterman is always a threat though.

People like royal, zaradi and LK, aren't too big a threat to me, while they are good players. I will easily yell at them back and forth for 10 pages until they give up and pressure someone else. The difference between them and drafterman, is drafterman will fish up a butt load of information and defend it intellegentlly, even information that you cannot refute. While the other ones will eventually give up or resort to insults, and eventually turn it into a flame war rather than actually trying to logically deduct your guilt.

On the other hand I haven't experienced this for a while, as lately I have been requesting townie roles from mods ( I am obsessed with townie wins, and love the thrill of lynching a guilty person, and knowing that you added towards their lynch. It is way better than the thrill of winning as a mafia, and being slimy and scummy, IMO)
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4/6/2012 8:07:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/6/2012 7:39:45 PM, TUF wrote:
I don't neccesarily fear anyone, and will be the the one to defend myself against any reasoning.

I fear whoever get's the bad results that implicate me though. I think there are a lot of people who are equally great threats though.

People who I consider a threat and will vote to kill off early on are:
1st: Drafterman

Other than that, it really just depends on the game. Drafterman is always a threat though.

People like royal, zaradi and LK, aren't too big a threat to me, while they are good players. I will easily yell at them back and forth for 10 pages until they give up and pressure someone else. The difference between them and drafterman, is drafterman will fish up a butt load of information and defend it intellegentlly, even information that you cannot refute. While the other ones will eventually give up or resort to insults, and eventually turn it into a flame war rather than actually trying to logically deduct your guilt.

On the other hand I haven't experienced this for a while, as lately I have been requesting townie roles from mods ( I am obsessed with townie wins, and love the thrill of lynching a guilty person, and knowing that you added towards their lynch. It is way better than the thrill of winning as a mafia, and being slimy and scummy, IMO)

+1 interwebz for you
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

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4/6/2012 8:16:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/6/2012 8:14:18 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Well, this thread did not attract as much attention as I hoped it would.

Just keep bumpin it, im sure it will ;)
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
airmax1227
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4/6/2012 8:23:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Well I'm generally concerned about most of the players already mentioned.. But I generally feel like I'm my own worst enemy. As still a relatively new player, I usually feel that I'm going to do something stupid that is going to get me outed as mafia.

So I'm most fearful of my own inexperience.

But the following players are pros and are definitely worth keeping an eye on in any game:

F_16
Zaradi
TUF
Royal
Thad
LDF
Mestari
Medic
Drafterman
Bluesteel

All of these players make me nervous, and I'd kill any one of them on NP1 if given the chance.
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medic0506
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4/6/2012 10:33:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Drafter
Falcon
LDF
Logic
Royal
Bluesteel

Those players worry me the most, but not necessarily in that order. Everyone has good and bad streaks.
kyro90
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4/6/2012 10:33:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Im glad to see im not a feared player. :)
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4/6/2012 11:07:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/6/2012 7:23:13 PM, Logic_on_rails wrote:
If a player is sufficiently they tend not to be 'afraid' per se. I know there are some players who will see through a disguise of mine, and some who will see through such disguises commonly. Why am I not 'afraid' then? Because the main way to die as Mafia is through lynches, and if one is sufficiently persuasive during the DP then one won't get lynched very often. It's quite rare for a single player to see through Mafia disguises and get a person with a good disguise lynched singlehandedly. Obviously, if my disguise is poor it's my fault, and so I'm not really afraid of anybody, but angry at myself.

Having said all that, Danielle is the only person I'd be afraid of as Mafia. I've always been seen through eventually if she's alive and I'm Mafia. While that hasn't always resulted in a lynch, it's uncanny. Most players I've sometimes tricked, so I'm not afraid of them. Danielle is an exception to that, which makes her so fearsome.

Of course, I'm likely interpreting 'afraid' to be a different thing to what the OP is referring to.

I agree that persuasion has alot to do with it when I'm mafia, but I'm finding that lately surviving a day phase as a townie is harder than doing so as mafia.
royalpaladin
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4/6/2012 11:08:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/6/2012 11:07:10 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 4/6/2012 7:23:13 PM, Logic_on_rails wrote:
If a player is sufficiently they tend not to be 'afraid' per se. I know there are some players who will see through a disguise of mine, and some who will see through such disguises commonly. Why am I not 'afraid' then? Because the main way to die as Mafia is through lynches, and if one is sufficiently persuasive during the DP then one won't get lynched very often. It's quite rare for a single player to see through Mafia disguises and get a person with a good disguise lynched singlehandedly. Obviously, if my disguise is poor it's my fault, and so I'm not really afraid of anybody, but angry at myself.

Having said all that, Danielle is the only person I'd be afraid of as Mafia. I've always been seen through eventually if she's alive and I'm Mafia. While that hasn't always resulted in a lynch, it's uncanny. Most players I've sometimes tricked, so I'm not afraid of them. Danielle is an exception to that, which makes her so fearsome.

Of course, I'm likely interpreting 'afraid' to be a different thing to what the OP is referring to.

I agree that persuasion has alot to do with it when I'm mafia, but I'm finding that lately surviving a day phase as a townie is harder than doing so as mafia.

At least you get to survive the Night Phases

I am very rarely lynched. I am usually Night Killed
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4/6/2012 11:10:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/6/2012 11:08:00 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/6/2012 11:07:10 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 4/6/2012 7:23:13 PM, Logic_on_rails wrote:
If a player is sufficiently they tend not to be 'afraid' per se. I know there are some players who will see through a disguise of mine, and some who will see through such disguises commonly. Why am I not 'afraid' then? Because the main way to die as Mafia is through lynches, and if one is sufficiently persuasive during the DP then one won't get lynched very often. It's quite rare for a single player to see through Mafia disguises and get a person with a good disguise lynched singlehandedly. Obviously, if my disguise is poor it's my fault, and so I'm not really afraid of anybody, but angry at myself.

Having said all that, Danielle is the only person I'd be afraid of as Mafia. I've always been seen through eventually if she's alive and I'm Mafia. While that hasn't always resulted in a lynch, it's uncanny. Most players I've sometimes tricked, so I'm not afraid of them. Danielle is an exception to that, which makes her so fearsome.

Of course, I'm likely interpreting 'afraid' to be a different thing to what the OP is referring to.

I agree that persuasion has alot to do with it when I'm mafia, but I'm finding that lately surviving a day phase as a townie is harder than doing so as mafia.

At least you get to survive the Night Phases

I am very rarely lynched. I am usually Night Killed

Same here, I think the last time I was lynched as town was...beginners 3.2?
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4/6/2012 11:21:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Drafter
Bluesteel
F-16
Danielle
Logic
Royal
Medic
Blackvoid

I wouldn't say scared, per se, unless they mention me. But more cautious, definitely.
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royalpaladin
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4/6/2012 11:23:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Ok, so I think I have concessions from everyone. Now I just have to compile the data and use it every game to figure out who the Mafia are based on Night Kill patterns ;)

I tricked all of you :p