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Thaddeus
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5/29/2012 3:27:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
The dead:
Kyro - doc

Marcus
Doctor Death

Maker of the Death Ray, Death machine, Death Serum and the Easy Bake Death Oven. A sinister looking sweet old man with a nefarious laugh. Due to your fairly evil name and appearance you are appear guilty to all investigation.

You are also the Inventor. You may make any of these items and give them to the player of your choice each NP.
You win with the town.

Death Ray

Death Machine

Death Serum

Easy Bake Death Oven

Kyro - You are Hollis, the King of hearts. The gentle sage. This old wise king knows the evil that his court perpetrates but can no longer muster the strength to stop it. All his magic has died save for his healing magics. Every night he may visit someone and protect them from death. He is however, very old. Every day he slips closer and closer to death.
You win with the town

The lack of OP is not due to laziness.

1. Buddamoose(Im at work but I'll change my pic ASAP)
3. Mestari (replaced RP)
12. Drafter
14. TUF
16. Airmax
17. VK
18. vmpire
19. IFLYHIGH
20. MIG

5 to lynch.

Budda 1/5 - Budda
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5/29/2012 4:13:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I went to block mIG

It was unsuccessful, and now i have the vote on myself.

Pretty sure this is a good indicator that MIG is maf. This would also explain the consistent "no results." As a person would just have to be redirected onto MIG.

VTL MIG
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/29/2012 4:17:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 4:13:55 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
I went to block mIG

It was unsuccessful, and now i have the vote on myself.

Pretty sure this is a good indicator that MIG is maf. This would also explain the consistent "no results." As a person would just have to be redirected onto MIG.

VTL MIG

I couldve been redirected away from MIG, but thats doubtful as maf would not expect me to do so.
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
Buddamoose
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5/29/2012 4:26:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 4:17:14 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 5/29/2012 4:13:55 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
I went to block mIG

It was unsuccessful, and now i have the vote on myself.

Pretty sure this is a good indicator that MIG is maf. This would also explain the consistent "no results." As a person would just have to be redirected onto MIG.

VTL MIG

I couldve been redirected away from MIG, but thats doubtful as maf would not expect me to target MIG.

Fix'd
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
TUF
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5/29/2012 6:45:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I didn't even know this was up! Last night I watched marcus. He was visited by buddamoose.

VTL buddamoose to death.
"I've got to go and grab a shirt" ~ Airmax1227
drafterman
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5/29/2012 7:03:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I do find it suspicious the way Budda has basically been running the day phases each day.

Let's see what he has to say.
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5/29/2012 7:48:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
VTL Buddamoose I find it unlikely that MIG is Mafia based on his extreme inactivity which would mean he's Vanilla townie or Thaddy is a bad moderator.
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5/29/2012 7:59:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Well, Buddha, I don't know if anyone has invalidated TUF's discovery, but I find it a bit puzzling to see you trying to frame me.

VTL Buddha
for explanation.
"Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto." --Terence

"I believe that the mind can be permanently profaned by the habit of attending to trivial things, so that all our thoughts shall be tinged with triviality."--Thoreau
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5/29/2012 8:00:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 7:59:27 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
Well, Buddha, I don't know if anyone has invalidated TUF's discovery, but I find it a bit puzzling to see you trying to frame me.

VTL Buddha
for explanation.

That vote was actually the hammer...
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Buddamoose
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5/29/2012 8:26:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 7:03:34 PM, drafterman wrote:
I do find it suspicious the way Budda has basically been running the day phases each day.

Let's see what he has to say.

Ok hold up here:

1) Drafter you have hardly been paying attention to this game, just last round you admitted to not knowing whats been going on, and now suddenly you do?

2) Its actually been both IFLY and myself majoritvely

3) Ive been confirmed innocent

4) Ive had my role confirmed via airmax already last DP

Now to elaborate here, any role combined with a godfather, let alone roleblocker is extremely OP. Drafter you are firm in your beliefs that bastard modding is extremely unlikely.

A godfather roleblocker goes WAY past the point of bastard modding into total unfairness and complete imbalance, and I know you know this.

5) As for TUF's results, does nobody find it strange that our ONLY truly useful investigative role was left unblocked? Y'all have confirmation now that I am indeed the roleblocker, Airmax verified this via last round. Why would I leave him unblocked?

Do you honestly think I'm THAT stupid as to not block the watcher? I mean c'mon the guys been giving no results since DP2, now magically he has results? No way that happens unless maf are trying to set someone up, and everyone should realize that.

This situation is either:

1) TUF is lying and is pulling a LYLO gambit.
2) TUF was purposely left unblocked while I was redirected onto marcus' which would explain the failed action notification I was given. Then Marcus' was killed by a mafia ninja, so I would be the only one seen visiting Marcus'.

In fact I would say option 2 is most likely, as I couldnt block a dead person, hence my failed block.

Unvote we need to figure this out

Living Players:

1. IFLY
2. Budda
3. Drafter
4. Airmax
5. Vmpire
6. MIG
7. VK
8. Mestari
9. Buddamoose

We can safely assume at this point that it is indeed LYLO at this point. Why? Only one mafia has died and in a 21 person game 5 mafia means a 1/4 ratio. The standard ratio of maf to town on this site is either 1/3 or 1/4. It cant be 1/3 because this would mean that we would have lost by now, as there would be 6 mafia to start, and 5 left now giving mafia the majority.

Now the unanswered question is how would mafia know that TUF would be watching Marcus' tonight.

@IFLY- Who is in your mason PM, you should have two more recruits in the PM. Who were those recruits? I know TUF was one of those recruits earlier in the game. You recruited him because of his legitimate watcher results N1.

@Everyone- lets be smart about this,

1. Airmax- I doubt is mafia, as he would not have confirmed that I was roleblocker last DP. It would have been easier to ML me if my role was yet unconfirmed.

2. Mestari- We still need night action for the last 3(4?) DP from him, but his characters friendship and alliance with Ignatious and William makes it unlikely that he is.

3. Drafter- I think we are all forgetting that he still has a guilty result sittin on him like a red flag. The only explanation for that being a trivia question that only HE recieved the answer to.

4. IFLY- is a naive mason recruiter, however he has been acting pro-town most of this game, and I doubt is mafia at this point.

5. Vmpire- Claimed Vanilla, albeit right away but still, a vanilla in a game where every role had been a power role thus far is extremely unlikely. Not to mention that he has ONLY spoken when FOS'd, the exception being the vanilla claim D1.

6. MIG- Now this is the big ticket right here. Earlier I thought that it wasnt possible that MIG would he mafia, however his only post, THIS ENTIRE GAME, which was back in what? DP3? Was to claim vanilla. Then he has not posted since. At this point due to statistical odds, and his lack of being replaced after almost an entire game now leads me to believe that he is likely mafia.

7. VK- Was mod confirmed inno by drafter, however at this point im starting to think Drafter is probably maf, and this could mean that the mod announced inno was "faked" for lack of a better word.

8. TUF- The fact that he has consistenly pulling no results this entire game, combined with now magically being left unchecked, leads me to believe that he is indeed town, left up so I would be seen visiting Marcus.

Now given this analysis:

1. Drafter
2. MIG
3. Vmpire
4. VK

Are all the most likely mafia. Given that it is safe to say it is LYLO

Now notice we have 4 people who are likely mafia, and there a most likely 4 mafia left alive? Yeah, this is obvious, and for once, we need to not fall for the LYLO gambit.

As I already said, it makes no sense for me to be mafia, and for TUF to be left unblocked. Why would I give myself away like that at what is most likely LYLO? Honestly guys, unless you think I'm just a complete vegetable with absolutely no brain that just makes no sense.

VTL Drafter

Im voting for who we should have lynched DP2 when a guilty result was pulled on him. If y'all decide to lynch me, well then GG, because we(town) will lose, and it will be yet another LYLO gambit fallen for.

Please dont fall for this, I will seriously cry :(
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
Buddamoose
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5/29/2012 8:27:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 8:00:33 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 5/29/2012 7:59:27 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
Well, Buddha, I don't know if anyone has invalidated TUF's discovery, but I find it a bit puzzling to see you trying to frame me.

VTL Buddha
for explanation.

That vote was actually the hammer...

Omfg what a surprise that MIG and VK finally speak, wow GG.
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/29/2012 8:29:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
God damn it, I put so much effort into this game...
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/29/2012 8:33:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
By the way I dont understand why y'all were still acting like mafia. Its LYLO and my vote was stolen, all it took was the four maf votes to win...
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/29/2012 8:39:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 8:33:42 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
By the way I dont understand why y'all were still acting like mafia. Its LYLO and my vote was stolen, all it took was the four maf votes to win...

and TUF added that one townie vote so vmp didnt need to hammer.
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/29/2012 8:40:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 8:29:02 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
God damn it, I put so much effort into this game...

Why did you want to roleblock Marcus?

You might still yet survive, if you can explain this...
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Buddamoose
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5/29/2012 8:41:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 8:40:42 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 5/29/2012 8:29:02 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
God damn it, I put so much effort into this game...

Why did you want to roleblock Marcus?

I didnt roleblock him, read my analysis airmax. Its over anyways, ive been hammered game over.

You might still yet survive, if you can explain this...

I just did
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/29/2012 8:46:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 8:41:35 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 5/29/2012 8:40:42 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 5/29/2012 8:29:02 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
God damn it, I put so much effort into this game...

Why did you want to roleblock Marcus?

I didnt roleblock him, read my analysis airmax. Its over anyways, ive been hammered game over.

I could prolong the DP and have your lynch undone as I've done in previous DPs.. However I don't see how I can given your analysis. It relies on my verifying you as RB, and you could be a mafia RB. I mean you did RB me last DP, which is pretty scummy.. Also I'd need a really good case against Drafter to day-Vig kill him, thus prolonging the DP and resetting the votes, and I just don't know if your case is sufficient.


You might still yet survive, if you can explain this...

I just did
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5/29/2012 8:49:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I'm sorry Buddamoose. I seriously doubt TUF is scum. Plus Medic0506 was a ninja. You're grasping at straws. Also do you seriously think Drafterman is scum when he's a 1 shot un-c'ced day cop that confirmed my innocence?
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5/29/2012 8:56:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 8:46:45 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 5/29/2012 8:41:35 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 5/29/2012 8:40:42 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 5/29/2012 8:29:02 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
God damn it, I put so much effort into this game...

Why did you want to roleblock Marcus?

I didnt roleblock him, read my analysis airmax. Its over anyways, ive been hammered game over.

I could prolong the DP and have your lynch undone as I've done in previous DPs.. However I don't see how I can given your analysis. It relies on my verifying you as RB, and you could be a mafia RB.

Thats not the only thing it relies on Airmax!!! Honestly I'm insulted you think I am that stupid as to leave TUF unblocked opening the possibility that I would be seen Nk'ing if I were mafia...

I mean you did RB me last DP, which is pretty scummy..

Last round you said my reasoning was "fair-enough" now its scummy? Really why would I block you if Kyro was the clear cut lynch target and I was mafia? That makes no sense, you wouldve pulled it to MYLO or LYLO early and allowing for maf to win last DP.

Also I'd need a really good case against Drafter to day-Vig kill him, thus prolonging the DP and resetting the votes, and I just don't know if your case is sufficient.

Are you serious? The guy has had a guilty result sitting on him day 2, and
you would rather say the RB who has been confirmed innocent is actually a mafia? What are you talking about dont go with the results?!?!

Please Airmax, I'm begging you, do it and save the game...


You might still yet survive, if you can explain this...

I just did
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/29/2012 8:57:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 8:49:43 PM, Viper-King wrote:
I'm sorry Buddamoose. I seriously doubt TUF is scum. Plus Medic0506 was a ninja. You're grasping at straws. Also do you seriously think Drafterman is scum when he's a 1 shot un-c'ced day cop that confirmed my innocence?

I never said TUF was scum, try re-reading that analysis. Either that or go back to lurking in your maf PM.
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/29/2012 9:00:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
so budda you think i was redirected? did anyone else visit marcus?
"I've got to go and grab a shirt" ~ Airmax1227
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5/29/2012 9:00:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 9:00:00 PM, TUF wrote:
so budda you think i was redirected? did anyone else visit marcus?

OMG READ THE ANALYSIS, I said I was redirected...
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/29/2012 9:02:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Im done talking, im just gonna go cry now because town fell for the LYLO gambit, and given what airmax said its unlikely that he wont fall for it...
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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5/29/2012 9:02:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/29/2012 8:57:06 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 5/29/2012 8:49:43 PM, Viper-King wrote:
I'm sorry Buddamoose. I seriously doubt TUF is scum. Plus Medic0506 was a ninja. You're grasping at straws. Also do you seriously think Drafterman is scum when he's a 1 shot un-c'ced day cop that confirmed my innocence?

I never said TUF was scum, try re-reading that analysis. Either that or go back to lurking in your maf PM.

Are you that desperate to avoid being lynched as scum?