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BlackVoid
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6/1/2012 11:34:11 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
TUF was lynched last DP.

Nuked into submission:

You are Switzerland, a small country in Europe. You're historically known for military neutrality, never partcipating in armed conflicts. You always stay to yourself and keep alliances to a minimum. Thus, you are neither town nor mafia, and are a third-party survivor. You have three roles:

1. You are neutral in all conflicts and never intiate aggression. Thus, your voting powers are extremely limited in that you can only vote 3 times in the game. Use them wisely.

2. Since you never initiate aggression towards others, no one aggresses against you either. Each night you can pick 5 players. If any of them attempt to kill you, they will fail. If they attempt to vote for you during the DP, the vote will not go through.

After NP2, you can only choose 3 players. After NP4, you can only choose 2. After NP6, you can only choose 1.

3. Starting NP3, you have a one-shot ability to neutralize someone and prevent them from accusing you in the DP at all. They can neither vote for you nor do anything intended to draw suspicion onto you for the rest of the game. This person must be one of the people you chose for power 2 for that night.

You win with yourself by surviving to endgame.

Fourtrouble - Norway - Beloved Princess - Town

Active players:


1. Lickdafoot
2. Drafterman
3. F-16
4. Lordknukle
5. Tulle (replaced by FourTrouble)
6. Budda
7. HCP
8. Zaradi
9. Medic
10. Logic
11. Caveat
12. Xerge
13. Kyro90
14. Viper
15. Iflyhigh

8 votes for lynch.
drafterman
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6/1/2012 11:40:06 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Then again, TUF said his win condition never changed, which is why he decided to out Logic, so it makes sense that he wouldn't show as recruited upon flipping.

So, it seems we aren't in any better a position.
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6/1/2012 11:42:52 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/1/2012 11:40:45 AM, drafterman wrote:
Though I totally see BV making USA Cult Leader. We want to bring everyone into the "cult" of democracy.

This makes sense. VTL Logic. I can't be online today. I buy TUF's story. With VK's role and Logic's role-claim, it all makes sense.
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6/1/2012 11:44:41 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
VTL Logic

I agree there is enough to warrant further pressure. But, unless you want to be haunted by the Ghost of Danielle, we have to let him speak before actually lynching him.
medic0506
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6/1/2012 11:45:24 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
So is Logic claiming to be cop, or just soft claiming some investigative abilities?? I think we should pin him down to a definitive claim since he's already given away info that he didn't need to if he were town. Not pinning down his claim leaves him open to change as he needs to, if he's scum.

VTL Logic
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6/1/2012 11:46:43 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I simply don't understand why TUF would put so much effort into making Logic look guilty, unless TUF was telling the truth.

VTL Logic
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6/1/2012 11:50:18 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/1/2012 11:46:43 AM, FourTrouble wrote:
I simply don't understand why TUF would put so much effort into making Logic look guilty, unless TUF was telling the truth.

VTL Logic

While there is certainly the relevant and significant factor of him coming out, of his own accord, and revealing this information, the general act of trying to take someone else down with him is something he's done before (ex: Revealing F-16 to be reviver in Garden Mafia).
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6/1/2012 11:50:33 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/1/2012 11:48:10 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
Vote count

Logic - 4/8 - F-16, drafter, Medic, FT

Uhhh Since everyones doing it ill do it too. Plus im eager to find out my role when someone dies.
VTL Logic
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6/1/2012 11:55:32 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Dead
1) Fourtrouble - Norway - Beloved Princess - TOWN

Role Claims
1) TUF - Switzerland - Miller + Protector for 3 nights
2) Kyro - Paraguay - Will get role when a certain country dies
3) HCP - Iceland - Visits a player and does nothing
4) Viper - Austria - stops mafia from recruiting
5) IFlyHigh - Venezuela - JOAT - 4 mafia, 2 third parties
6) Logic- USA- Investigative abilities

Character Claims
7) Lordknukle - Bangladesh

No Claims
8) Tulle
9) F-16
10) Budda
11) Drafterman
12) Zaradi
13) Medic
14) Caveat
15) Xerge
16) Lickdafoot
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6/1/2012 12:03:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/1/2012 11:44:41 AM, drafterman wrote:
VTL Logic

I agree there is enough to warrant further pressure. But, unless you want to be haunted by the Ghost of Danielle, we have to let him speak before actually lynching him.

Says who?? Nothing personal against Logic but town needs to act when we can get the votes we need to enact our decision.
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6/1/2012 12:04:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/1/2012 11:50:33 AM, kyro90 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 11:48:10 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
Vote count

Logic - 4/8 - F-16, drafter, Medic, FT

Uhhh Since everyones doing it ill do it too. Plus im eager to find out my role when someone dies.
VTL Logic

Great reasoning Kyro.
drafterman
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6/1/2012 12:05:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/1/2012 12:03:14 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 11:44:41 AM, drafterman wrote:
VTL Logic

I agree there is enough to warrant further pressure. But, unless you want to be haunted by the Ghost of Danielle, we have to let him speak before actually lynching him.

Says who?? Nothing personal against Logic but town needs to act when we can get the votes we need to enact our decision.

I agree, I was just making a little joke.
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6/1/2012 12:05:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/1/2012 12:04:28 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 11:50:33 AM, kyro90 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 11:48:10 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
Vote count

Logic - 4/8 - F-16, drafter, Medic, FT

Uhhh Since everyones doing it ill do it too. Plus im eager to find out my role when someone dies.
VTL Logic

Great reasoning Kyro.

Thanks. I take pride in my reasons. :)
Allow me to give you my card....
Oh you cant read? Pitty. It says,
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6/1/2012 12:10:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/1/2012 12:05:04 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:03:14 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 11:44:41 AM, drafterman wrote:
VTL Logic

I agree there is enough to warrant further pressure. But, unless you want to be haunted by the Ghost of Danielle, we have to let him speak before actually lynching him.

Says who?? Nothing personal against Logic but town needs to act when we can get the votes we need to enact our decision.

I agree, I was just making a little joke.

I thought I remembered you disagreeing with that point at one time. I thought maybe you had been nagged into capitulation.
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6/1/2012 12:14:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/1/2012 12:05:48 PM, kyro90 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:04:28 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 11:50:33 AM, kyro90 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 11:48:10 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
Vote count

Logic - 4/8 - F-16, drafter, Medic, FT

Uhhh Since everyones doing it ill do it too. Plus im eager to find out my role when someone dies.
VTL Logic

Great reasoning Kyro.

Thanks. I take pride in my reasons. :)

If everyone else was jumping off a cliff would you jump too??
Geeze, now I sound like my mother.

How does your role work??
kyro90
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6/1/2012 12:16:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/1/2012 12:14:27 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:05:48 PM, kyro90 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:04:28 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 11:50:33 AM, kyro90 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 11:48:10 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
Vote count

Logic - 4/8 - F-16, drafter, Medic, FT

Uhhh Since everyones doing it ill do it too. Plus im eager to find out my role when someone dies.
VTL Logic

Great reasoning Kyro.

Thanks. I take pride in my reasons. :)

If everyone else was jumping off a cliff would you jump too??
Geeze, now I sound like my mother.

How does your role work??

Here we go again... Well see, Apperently there is this certain country that has to die in order to obtain my full role. Right now I am a vanilla until that country dies. When it dies I get its role.
Allow me to give you my card....
Oh you cant read? Pitty. It says,
You are now holding the card of the Awesome-Steller-Second-to-none-hot-cool-funny-incredible-magical-beautious-cuddly-warm-kitty-kat-like Secretary
caveat
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6/1/2012 12:18:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/1/2012 12:16:26 PM, kyro90 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:14:27 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:05:48 PM, kyro90 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:04:28 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 11:50:33 AM, kyro90 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 11:48:10 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
Vote count

Logic - 4/8 - F-16, drafter, Medic, FT

Uhhh Since everyones doing it ill do it too. Plus im eager to find out my role when someone dies.
VTL Logic

Great reasoning Kyro.

Thanks. I take pride in my reasons. :)

If everyone else was jumping off a cliff would you jump too??
Geeze, now I sound like my mother.

How does your role work??

Here we go again... Well see, Apperently there is this certain country that has to die in order to obtain my full role. Right now I am a vanilla until that country dies. When it dies I get its role.

I can't recall any ties like that with modern day Paraguay... meh.

Why are we all so certain about TUF's accusation on Logic again?
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. " Clearly, it is this second part, the missing, which presents the difficulties.
drafterman
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6/1/2012 12:20:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/1/2012 12:18:27 PM, caveat wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:16:26 PM, kyro90 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:14:27 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:05:48 PM, kyro90 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:04:28 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 11:50:33 AM, kyro90 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 11:48:10 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
Vote count

Logic - 4/8 - F-16, drafter, Medic, FT

Uhhh Since everyones doing it ill do it too. Plus im eager to find out my role when someone dies.
VTL Logic

Great reasoning Kyro.

Thanks. I take pride in my reasons. :)

If everyone else was jumping off a cliff would you jump too??
Geeze, now I sound like my mother.

How does your role work??

Here we go again... Well see, Apperently there is this certain country that has to die in order to obtain my full role. Right now I am a vanilla until that country dies. When it dies I get its role.

I can't recall any ties like that with modern day Paraguay... meh.

Why are we all so certain about TUF's accusation on Logic again?

I don't think we're "certain." But there is the whole question of why he would do something like that. There doesn't appear to be any gain for him to just admit to being TP and take a random townie down with him. He wasn't being FOS'd at the time.

We also have results which indicate there being a second 3rd Party, and a role which prevents recruitment, thus suggesitng the existence of a Cult Leader.

So it's all circumstantial, but it adds up.
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6/1/2012 12:22:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/1/2012 12:20:50 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:18:27 PM, caveat wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:16:26 PM, kyro90 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:14:27 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:05:48 PM, kyro90 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:04:28 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 11:50:33 AM, kyro90 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 11:48:10 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
Vote count

Logic - 4/8 - F-16, drafter, Medic, FT

Uhhh Since everyones doing it ill do it too. Plus im eager to find out my role when someone dies.
VTL Logic

Great reasoning Kyro.

Thanks. I take pride in my reasons. :)

If everyone else was jumping off a cliff would you jump too??
Geeze, now I sound like my mother.

How does your role work??

Here we go again... Well see, Apperently there is this certain country that has to die in order to obtain my full role. Right now I am a vanilla until that country dies. When it dies I get its role.

I can't recall any ties like that with modern day Paraguay... meh.

Why are we all so certain about TUF's accusation on Logic again?

I don't think we're "certain." But there is the whole question of why he would do something like that. There doesn't appear to be any gain for him to just admit to being TP and take a random townie down with him. He wasn't being FOS'd at the time.

We also have results which indicate there being a second 3rd Party, and a role which prevents recruitment, thus suggesitng the existence of a Cult Leader.

So it's all circumstantial, but it adds up.
Why would the US be a cult if in every war, just for example, they are the ones with more allies?
Allow me to give you my card....
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6/1/2012 12:24:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/1/2012 12:22:37 PM, kyro90 wrote:
Why would the US be a cult if in every war, just for example, they are the ones with more allies?

I don't think the theory has much to do with war, specifically. More the fact that the US has had ridiculously large influence on the rest of the world.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. " Clearly, it is this second part, the missing, which presents the difficulties.
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6/1/2012 12:24:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/1/2012 12:22:37 PM, kyro90 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:20:50 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:18:27 PM, caveat wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:16:26 PM, kyro90 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:14:27 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:05:48 PM, kyro90 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 12:04:28 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 11:50:33 AM, kyro90 wrote:
At 6/1/2012 11:48:10 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
Vote count

Logic - 4/8 - F-16, drafter, Medic, FT

Uhhh Since everyones doing it ill do it too. Plus im eager to find out my role when someone dies.
VTL Logic

Great reasoning Kyro.

Thanks. I take pride in my reasons. :)

If everyone else was jumping off a cliff would you jump too??
Geeze, now I sound like my mother.

How does your role work??

Here we go again... Well see, Apperently there is this certain country that has to die in order to obtain my full role. Right now I am a vanilla until that country dies. When it dies I get its role.

I can't recall any ties like that with modern day Paraguay... meh.

Why are we all so certain about TUF's accusation on Logic again?

I don't think we're "certain." But there is the whole question of why he would do something like that. There doesn't appear to be any gain for him to just admit to being TP and take a random townie down with him. He wasn't being FOS'd at the time.

We also have results which indicate there being a second 3rd Party, and a role which prevents recruitment, thus suggesitng the existence of a Cult Leader.

So it's all circumstantial, but it adds up.
Why would the US be a cult if in every war, just for example, they are the ones with more allies?

Are you asking me about the role justification in someone else's role pm?
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6/1/2012 12:33:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Alright never mind. Just read over LoR's role claim and responses to TUF's outing again.

VTL Logic
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. " Clearly, it is this second part, the missing, which presents the difficulties.
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6/1/2012 12:45:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Vote count

Logic - 8/8 - F-16, drafter, Medic, FT, Kyro, Viper, Caveat

Logic has been lynched, he was guilty.

Since the DP went by so fast, I'll allow some limited talking. Each player can post three times after this post.