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Item's Mafia - DAY PHASE THREE

Hardcore.Pwnography
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6/21/2012 4:38:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Made Obsolete in the Night:

USM: You are the SECURITY CAMERA. You were designed to monitor buildings and protect it against intruders. As such, you are the WATCHER. Each night, you may visit a player and watch them. You will then receive a report detailing all the other players who visited the player you watched, that night. You win with the cult.

Dead Last DP:

West:
You are LSD. You are a strong, illegal, street drug. When people take you, they have severe hallucinations, and often don't know what they're doing. They see things that aren't there. As such, you are the RANDOMIZER. Each night phase, you may target another player and randomize their night action. They will use their action on another random player. Beware, they could randomize their actions onto mafia. You win with the mafia.

Living Players:

2. F16
3. Viper King
4. BuddaMoose
7. Caveat
8. Fourtrouble
9. Drafter
10. TUF
12. Ober
13. MasterKage (Replaced IFLY)
14. Johnny
15. Airmax
16. Bossy (Replaced Dninja)
17. LK
18. Vmpire
19. Andro
21. Mestari

Dead Players:

1. Medic
11. Bossy (1)
6. MasterKage (1)
20. West
5. USM

With 16 Players, it takes 9 Votes to Lynch.

The DP will end at 7PM DDO Time on Saturday. If there is no decision, I will auto lynch the person with the most votes. In the event of a tie, there will be a VTNL
bossyburrito
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6/21/2012 4:39:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I used my ability on USM funnily enough.
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
Lordknukle
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6/21/2012 4:40:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Shalom.

I'm glad that USM died, because I attempted to recruit him and if it went through, I would have been killed.

A tracker can confirm this.
"Easy is the descent to Avernus, for the door to the Underworld lies upon both day and night. But to retrace your steps and return to the breezes above- that's the task, that's the toil."
Mestari
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6/21/2012 4:40:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/21/2012 4:39:46 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
lol I copied western's role and used it on myself - that must be how I targeted either USM or drafter...

That's what I said last DP. Anyway, who defended USM DP2 that didn't explicitly defend him DP1?
Rules of Mafia

1. Mestari is never third party.
2. If Mestari claims an intricate and page long TP role, he's telling the truth.
3. Mestari always jointly wins with the town.
3b. If he doesn't he's mafia.
3c. If he was mafia you wouldn't suspect him in the first place.
4. If you lynch Mestari you will lose because he will be the third party Doctor or some other townie power role.
5. DP1 lynches are good.
6. The answer is always no.
Lordknukle
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6/21/2012 4:41:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/21/2012 4:39:46 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
lol I copied western's role and used it on myself - that must be how I targeted either USM or drafter...

So you copying Western's role caused you to randomize your mimic?
"Easy is the descent to Avernus, for the door to the Underworld lies upon both day and night. But to retrace your steps and return to the breezes above- that's the task, that's the toil."
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6/21/2012 4:42:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/21/2012 4:40:22 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Shalom.

I'm glad that USM died, because I attempted to recruit him and if it went through, I would have been killed.

A tracker can confirm this.

Masons kill cult.
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
FourTrouble
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6/21/2012 4:42:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/21/2012 4:41:48 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 6/21/2012 4:39:46 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
lol I copied western's role and used it on myself - that must be how I targeted either USM or drafter...

So you copying Western's role caused you to randomize your mimic?

I think I copied western's role, but when I used it on myself, it randomized my action so I ended up randomizing someone else.
Lordknukle
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6/21/2012 4:43:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/21/2012 4:42:53 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 6/21/2012 4:40:22 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Shalom.

I'm glad that USM died, because I attempted to recruit him and if it went through, I would have been killed.

A tracker can confirm this.

Masons kill cult.

Hm...? Cult kill Masons when they try to recruit them.
"Easy is the descent to Avernus, for the door to the Underworld lies upon both day and night. But to retrace your steps and return to the breezes above- that's the task, that's the toil."
Lordknukle
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6/21/2012 4:44:17 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/21/2012 4:42:59 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 6/21/2012 4:41:48 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 6/21/2012 4:39:46 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
lol I copied western's role and used it on myself - that must be how I targeted either USM or drafter...

So you copying Western's role caused you to randomize your mimic?

I think I copied western's role, but when I used it on myself, it randomized my action so I ended up randomizing someone else.

That's a very...peculiar order of night action resolution. Regardless, I believe you for the time being.
"Easy is the descent to Avernus, for the door to the Underworld lies upon both day and night. But to retrace your steps and return to the breezes above- that's the task, that's the toil."
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6/21/2012 4:44:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/21/2012 4:43:28 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 6/21/2012 4:42:53 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 6/21/2012 4:40:22 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Shalom.

I'm glad that USM died, because I attempted to recruit him and if it went through, I would have been killed.

A tracker can confirm this.

Masons kill cult.

Hm...? Cult kill Masons when they try to recruit them.

I thought only Maf kill masons.
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
FourTrouble
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6/21/2012 4:45:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/21/2012 4:39:03 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
I used my ability on USM funnily enough.

why would you do this? USM had already claimed (and had counter-claimed someone), so it was very likely he was actually the watcher - and drafter explicitly told you to use your role on people who hadn't claimed so that you could catch them out if they tried to fake-claim... you need to explain why you visited the person who died...
drafterman
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6/21/2012 4:45:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Called it. From last DP:

Disclaimer
What follows is completely baseless speculation.
End Disclaimer

What if west was a randomizer? That is, he targets someone, and they use their role on a random target. So, he targets either me or USM. Let's say he targets USM, and USM's target is randomized to Ober.

Now, FT copies west's role and uses it on himself. But, by using it on himself, he randomizes himself to use it on me, and randomizes my target so I end up copying bossy, instead of west.

Alternatively, you can swap me and USM above with no alteration in the outcome.

EXTREMELY unlikely, but it explains why USM and I were redirected, but FT was not.
Hardcore.Pwnography
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6/21/2012 4:46:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/21/2012 4:45:27 PM, drafterman wrote:
Called it. From last DP:

Disclaimer
What follows is completely baseless speculation.
End Disclaimer

What if west was a randomizer? That is, he targets someone, and they use their role on a random target. So, he targets either me or USM. Let's say he targets USM, and USM's target is randomized to Ober.

Now, FT copies west's role and uses it on himself. But, by using it on himself, he randomizes himself to use it on me, and randomizes my target so I end up copying bossy, instead of west.

Alternatively, you can swap me and USM above with no alteration in the outcome.

EXTREMELY unlikely, but it explains why USM and I were redirected, but FT was not.

Yes, I was very impressed.
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6/21/2012 4:46:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/21/2012 4:45:08 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 6/21/2012 4:39:03 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
I used my ability on USM funnily enough.

why would you do this? USM had already claimed (and had counter-claimed someone), so it was very likely he was actually the watcher - and drafter explicitly told you to use your role on people who hadn't claimed so that you could catch them out if they tried to fake-claim... you need to explain why you visited the person who died...

Because of the whole randomizing thing. If he told the truth, you would be inno and visa-versa.
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
Hardcore.Pwnography
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6/21/2012 4:46:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Official Vote Count:

Budda - 1/9 - Fourtrouble

The DP will end at 7PM DDO Time on Saturday. If there is no decision, I will auto lynch the person with the most votes. In the event of a tie, there will be a VTNL
FourTrouble
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6/21/2012 4:47:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/21/2012 4:46:39 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 6/21/2012 4:45:08 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 6/21/2012 4:39:03 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
I used my ability on USM funnily enough.

why would you do this? USM had already claimed (and had counter-claimed someone), so it was very likely he was actually the watcher - and drafter explicitly told you to use your role on people who hadn't claimed so that you could catch them out if they tried to fake-claim... you need to explain why you visited the person who died...

Because of the whole randomizing thing. If he told the truth, you would be inno and visa-versa.

your explanation makes no sense... USM told the truth - the question was whether western was lying or whether I was lying - and it turns out western was lying, as you can see from his role. your night-action makes absolutely no sense...
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6/21/2012 4:50:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/21/2012 4:47:56 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 6/21/2012 4:46:39 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 6/21/2012 4:45:08 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 6/21/2012 4:39:03 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
I used my ability on USM funnily enough.

why would you do this? USM had already claimed (and had counter-claimed someone), so it was very likely he was actually the watcher - and drafter explicitly told you to use your role on people who hadn't claimed so that you could catch them out if they tried to fake-claim... you need to explain why you visited the person who died...

Because of the whole randomizing thing. If he told the truth, you would be inno and visa-versa.

your explanation makes no sense... USM told the truth - the question was whether western was lying or whether I was lying - and it turns out western was lying, as you can see from his role. your night-action makes absolutely no sense...

The question was whether USM, West, or you were lying. West was already dead, so I wanted conformation if he flipped Inno.
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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6/21/2012 4:50:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/21/2012 4:49:15 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
something is seriously odd about bossy - he's a role-cop who decided to visit USM last night - and USM died.

Are you implying that he is cult?
"Easy is the descent to Avernus, for the door to the Underworld lies upon both day and night. But to retrace your steps and return to the breezes above- that's the task, that's the toil."
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6/21/2012 4:51:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/21/2012 4:50:09 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 6/21/2012 4:49:15 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
something is seriously odd about bossy - he's a role-cop who decided to visit USM last night - and USM died.

Are you implying that he is cult?

or mafia.
drafterman
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6/21/2012 4:51:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
VTL bossy

You should have visited an unclaimed. Possibly you did, but don't want to tell us because you're mafia. Rolecop is usually mafia. I have a copy of your role, so it doesn't hurt to lose you.

I gave a one shot of your role to someone else.
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6/21/2012 4:52:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/21/2012 4:50:07 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 6/21/2012 4:47:56 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 6/21/2012 4:46:39 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 6/21/2012 4:45:08 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 6/21/2012 4:39:03 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
I used my ability on USM funnily enough.

why would you do this? USM had already claimed (and had counter-claimed someone), so it was very likely he was actually the watcher - and drafter explicitly told you to use your role on people who hadn't claimed so that you could catch them out if they tried to fake-claim... you need to explain why you visited the person who died...

Because of the whole randomizing thing. If he told the truth, you would be inno and visa-versa.

your explanation makes no sense... USM told the truth - the question was whether western was lying or whether I was lying - and it turns out western was lying, as you can see from his role. your night-action makes absolutely no sense...

The question was whether USM, West, or you were lying. West was already dead, so I wanted conformation if he flipped Inno.

There was no question of USM lying. It was between me, FT, west, and LK. USM was all but confirmed, which is why he was probably recruited.
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6/21/2012 4:52:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Official Vote Count:

Budda - 1/9 - Fourtrouble
Bossy - 1/9 - Drafter

The DP will end at 7PM DDO Time on Saturday. If there is no decision, I will auto lynch the person with the most votes. In the event of a tie, there will be a VTNL
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6/21/2012 4:54:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
drafter, wait a second before lynching him - I find it hard to believe HCP would put both bossy and western on the mafia - it would make it too easy for us to catch them, as they are both inexperienced and would probably have to claim on DP1. He might just be noob.
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6/21/2012 4:56:09 PM
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I find Budda's behavior is off, and I also think we need to put pressure on inactive players (there's a lot of them), before we decide to lynch bossy.
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6/21/2012 4:57:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/21/2012 4:56:09 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
I find Budda's behavior is off, and I also think we need to put pressure on inactive players (there's a lot of them), before we decide to lynch bossy.

How is Budda behavior off?

Also, what were your actions last night?
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6/21/2012 4:59:17 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/21/2012 4:57:40 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 6/21/2012 4:56:09 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
I find Budda's behavior is off, and I also think we need to put pressure on inactive players (there's a lot of them), before we decide to lynch bossy.

How is Budda behavior off?

Also, what were your actions last night?

I copied USM and watched you. No one visited. I was thinking of watching USM but I honestly didn't think the mafia would kill him...