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F-16_Fighting_Falcon
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8/13/2012 1:41:44 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
We are going with 8 players:

1) Godfather
2) Roleblocker
3) Cop
4) Doc
5) 4 vanilla townies

Active players:

1) MIG
2) Mestari
3) IFH
4) TUF
5) Bossy
6) MA
7) FT
8) LDF

5 to lynch. 20 minute DP.
Mestari
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8/13/2012 1:42:11 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Godfather here. VTL FT for a claim.
Rules of Mafia

1. Mestari is never third party.
2. If Mestari claims an intricate and page long TP role, he's telling the truth.
3. Mestari always jointly wins with the town.
3b. If he doesn't he's mafia.
3c. If he was mafia you wouldn't suspect him in the first place.
4. If you lynch Mestari you will lose because he will be the third party Doctor or some other townie power role.
5. DP1 lynches are good.
6. The answer is always no.
IFLYHIGH
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8/13/2012 1:42:59 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 1:42:11 AM, Mestari wrote:
Godfather here. VTL FT for a claim.

Claims seems pointless. Everybody will claim vanilla.
bossyburrito
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8/13/2012 1:43:26 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
VTL MA for a claim
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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8/13/2012 1:43:51 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
VTNL. nac
Rules of Mafia

1. Mestari is never third party.
2. If Mestari claims an intricate and page long TP role, he's telling the truth.
3. Mestari always jointly wins with the town.
3b. If he doesn't he's mafia.
3c. If he was mafia you wouldn't suspect him in the first place.
4. If you lynch Mestari you will lose because he will be the third party Doctor or some other townie power role.
5. DP1 lynches are good.
6. The answer is always no.
bossyburrito
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8/13/2012 1:44:04 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 1:43:14 AM, FourTrouble wrote:
I figure everyone is gonna claim vanilla, so should we skip this and go straight to the NP?

I guess. That way we will have some results to work with.
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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8/13/2012 1:44:08 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 1:43:45 AM, FourTrouble wrote:
Alright, I'm vanilla here.

VTL Mestari c'mon he's the godfather, lynch him.

Better cop me and prove it.
Rules of Mafia

1. Mestari is never third party.
2. If Mestari claims an intricate and page long TP role, he's telling the truth.
3. Mestari always jointly wins with the town.
3b. If he doesn't he's mafia.
3c. If he was mafia you wouldn't suspect him in the first place.
4. If you lynch Mestari you will lose because he will be the third party Doctor or some other townie power role.
5. DP1 lynches are good.
6. The answer is always no.
bossyburrito
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8/13/2012 1:44:35 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Unvote VTNL
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
Lickdafoot
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8/13/2012 1:46:51 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 1:44:08 AM, Mestari wrote:
At 8/13/2012 1:43:45 AM, FourTrouble wrote:
Alright, I'm vanilla here.

VTL Mestari c'mon he's the godfather, lynch him.

Better cop me and prove it.

lol.. pretty shady of you though. O.o
WAKE UP AND READ THIS: http://www.debate.org...
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8/13/2012 1:47:20 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 1:46:49 AM, FourTrouble wrote:
Mestari is mafia. (this is a bus for anyone who hasn't realized it yet).

DON'T MAKE IT SO OBVIOUS. The point is for them to think you are innocent. Duuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Rules of Mafia

1. Mestari is never third party.
2. If Mestari claims an intricate and page long TP role, he's telling the truth.
3. Mestari always jointly wins with the town.
3b. If he doesn't he's mafia.
3c. If he was mafia you wouldn't suspect him in the first place.
4. If you lynch Mestari you will lose because he will be the third party Doctor or some other townie power role.
5. DP1 lynches are good.
6. The answer is always no.
FourTrouble
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8/13/2012 1:47:21 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 1:46:38 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
MA - 1/5 - Bossy
VTNL - 4/5 - Mestari, TUF, Bossy, LDF

my vote is on Mestari.
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8/13/2012 1:47:50 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 1:47:20 AM, Mestari wrote:
At 8/13/2012 1:46:49 AM, FourTrouble wrote:
Mestari is mafia. (this is a bus for anyone who hasn't realized it yet).

DON'T MAKE IT SO OBVIOUS. The point is for them to think you are innocent. Duuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

nah don't worry, they already think I'm a vanilla LOLOL.
Mestari
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8/13/2012 1:47:51 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Whoever doesn't VTNL is scum.
Rules of Mafia

1. Mestari is never third party.
2. If Mestari claims an intricate and page long TP role, he's telling the truth.
3. Mestari always jointly wins with the town.
3b. If he doesn't he's mafia.
3c. If he was mafia you wouldn't suspect him in the first place.
4. If you lynch Mestari you will lose because he will be the third party Doctor or some other townie power role.
5. DP1 lynches are good.
6. The answer is always no.
bossyburrito
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8/13/2012 1:47:53 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 1:46:38 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
MA - 1/5 - Bossy
VTNL - 4/5 - Mestari, TUF, Bossy, LDF

I'm the double-voter guys.
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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8/13/2012 1:52:02 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 1:50:19 AM, MilitaryAtheist wrote:
vtl mest

I'm pretending to be FT, so let me get into character (see vid).

FOS on MA for VTLing me. Obvious scum is obvious.
Rules of Mafia

1. Mestari is never third party.
2. If Mestari claims an intricate and page long TP role, he's telling the truth.
3. Mestari always jointly wins with the town.
3b. If he doesn't he's mafia.
3c. If he was mafia you wouldn't suspect him in the first place.
4. If you lynch Mestari you will lose because he will be the third party Doctor or some other townie power role.
5. DP1 lynches are good.
6. The answer is always no.
Mestari
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8/13/2012 1:56:56 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 1:52:02 AM, Mestari wrote:
At 8/13/2012 1:50:19 AM, MilitaryAtheist wrote:
vtl mest

I'm pretending to be FT, so let me get into character (see vid).



FOS on MA for VTLing me. Obvious scum is obvious for so many reasons.

[Below is jusitification - but you don't really care so just skip it.]

I would also like to present a seemingly stronger argument in support of the PSR: : The Explanation of Negative States of Affairs. I feel this argument is best
articulated by Alexander R. Pruss [1] in his book The Principle of Sufficient
Reason: A Reassessment:

Here is a pattern of explanation we all accept [...] "Why did the yogurt fail
to ferment? It failed to ferment because none of the usual explanations of
fermentation, namely, the presence of bacteria, were there to explain it, and
there was no unusual cause. Why did the dog not bark? It did not bark because
no stranger approached it and none of the other possible causes of barking
caused it to bark." These are perfectly fine explanations, and they are not
elliptical for longer explanations, though of course they are not ultimate
explanations since one may ask why no stranger approached the dog.

In these explanations, we explain a negative state of affairs by noting that the
positive state of affairs that it is the denial of lacked an explanation. But now
observe that this form of explanation presupposes a PSR, at least for positive
states of affair, for if such a PSR does not hold, then one has failed to explain the : negative state of affairs. If it is possible that a dog should bark without cause,
then in saying that there was no cause for the dog to bark we have not explained : why the dog did not bark. We may have explained why a nonbrute barking did not : occur, but we have not explained why a brute, or unexplained, barking did not
occur.

Our acceptance of the preceding explanations as nonelliptical is thus a sign of our : tacit acceptance of the PSR.


Fixed. Now it's FT.
Rules of Mafia

1. Mestari is never third party.
2. If Mestari claims an intricate and page long TP role, he's telling the truth.
3. Mestari always jointly wins with the town.
3b. If he doesn't he's mafia.
3c. If he was mafia you wouldn't suspect him in the first place.
4. If you lynch Mestari you will lose because he will be the third party Doctor or some other townie power role.
5. DP1 lynches are good.
6. The answer is always no.