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F-16_Fighting_Falcon
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8/13/2012 3:33:48 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Dead:

FT(1) - Vanilla townie
IFLY(1) - Vanilla townie
MA/IFLY(2) - Vanilla townie
MIG/FT2 - Mafia godfather
Licky-bear (will you marry me?) - Vanilla townie

Active players:

1) TUF
2) Mestari
3) Bossy

2 to lynch. 20 minutes.
bossyburrito
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8/13/2012 3:34:49 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
God damn it. We lost the confirmed one.
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8/13/2012 3:35:21 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
This is obvious. VTL Tuf
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8/13/2012 3:35:48 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 3:35:21 AM, bossyburrito wrote:
This is obvious. VTL Tuf

How is it obvious? Mestari is the godfather. He has no results.
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8/13/2012 3:35:49 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 3:34:49 AM, bossyburrito wrote:
God damn it. We lost the confirmed one.

They killed the one that sided with me 100% obviously and who wanted to lynch TUF no matter what. VTL TUF. For what it's worth I got a guilty on him so I wasn't RB'd.
Rules of Mafia

1. Mestari is never third party.
2. If Mestari claims an intricate and page long TP role, he's telling the truth.
3. Mestari always jointly wins with the town.
3b. If he doesn't he's mafia.
3c. If he was mafia you wouldn't suspect him in the first place.
4. If you lynch Mestari you will lose because he will be the third party Doctor or some other townie power role.
5. DP1 lynches are good.
6. The answer is always no.
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8/13/2012 3:36:23 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 3:35:48 AM, TUF wrote:
At 8/13/2012 3:35:21 AM, bossyburrito wrote:
This is obvious. VTL Tuf

How is it obvious? Mestari is the godfather. He has no results.

Godfather is dead. This CONFIRMS me as town because TUF claims and INNOCENT on me.
Rules of Mafia

1. Mestari is never third party.
2. If Mestari claims an intricate and page long TP role, he's telling the truth.
3. Mestari always jointly wins with the town.
3b. If he doesn't he's mafia.
3c. If he was mafia you wouldn't suspect him in the first place.
4. If you lynch Mestari you will lose because he will be the third party Doctor or some other townie power role.
5. DP1 lynches are good.
6. The answer is always no.
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8/13/2012 3:36:38 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 3:35:49 AM, Mestari wrote:
At 8/13/2012 3:34:49 AM, bossyburrito wrote:
God damn it. We lost the confirmed one.

They killed the one that sided with me 100% obviously and who wanted to lynch TUF no matter what. VTL TUF. For what it's worth I got a guilty on him so I wasn't RB'd.

This makes sense since they want to get rid of the Doc.
#UnbanTheMadman

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Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

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8/13/2012 3:36:47 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 3:36:23 AM, Mestari wrote:
At 8/13/2012 3:35:48 AM, TUF wrote:
At 8/13/2012 3:35:21 AM, bossyburrito wrote:
This is obvious. VTL Tuf

How is it obvious? Mestari is the godfather. He has no results.

Godfather is dead. This CONFIRMS me as town because TUF claims and INNOCENT on me.

HAHAHA.
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8/13/2012 3:37:12 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
@Bossy.

TUF claims that he got an innocent on me NP3. If I'm scum then this is only possible if I were the Godfather. FT flipped Godfather though, therefore if I'm scum I would have to be the roleblocker and that means TUF would have gotten a guilty on me.
Rules of Mafia

1. Mestari is never third party.
2. If Mestari claims an intricate and page long TP role, he's telling the truth.
3. Mestari always jointly wins with the town.
3b. If he doesn't he's mafia.
3c. If he was mafia you wouldn't suspect him in the first place.
4. If you lynch Mestari you will lose because he will be the third party Doctor or some other townie power role.
5. DP1 lynches are good.
6. The answer is always no.
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8/13/2012 3:37:51 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Okay the open role set up was a really bad idea. Especially with the roleblocker included. It was pretty easy to deduce who the last two mafia were. Based on the RB's.
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8/13/2012 3:38:17 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 3:36:23 AM, Mestari wrote:
At 8/13/2012 3:35:48 AM, TUF wrote:
At 8/13/2012 3:35:21 AM, bossyburrito wrote:
This is obvious. VTL Tuf

How is it obvious? Mestari is the godfather. He has no results.

Godfather is dead. This CONFIRMS me as town because TUF claims and INNOCENT on me.
Owned. GG Mestari. You survived to the end!
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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8/13/2012 3:38:30 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 3:37:51 AM, TUF wrote:
Okay the open role set up was a really bad idea. Especially with the roleblocker included. It was pretty easy to deduce who the last two mafia were. Based on the RB's.

Well, me and LDF had you figured out by DP3, and I had FT figured out as well. GG though.
Rules of Mafia

1. Mestari is never third party.
2. If Mestari claims an intricate and page long TP role, he's telling the truth.
3. Mestari always jointly wins with the town.
3b. If he doesn't he's mafia.
3c. If he was mafia you wouldn't suspect him in the first place.
4. If you lynch Mestari you will lose because he will be the third party Doctor or some other townie power role.
5. DP1 lynches are good.
6. The answer is always no.
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8/13/2012 3:38:39 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 3:33:48 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:

Licky-bear (will you marry me?) - Vanilla townie

sure why not? :)

I didn't even notice till after last dp was over that tuf pmed me like four times to try and distract me from getting the lynch haha
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8/13/2012 3:38:57 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 3:37:12 AM, Mestari wrote:
@Bossy.

TUF claims that he got an innocent on me NP3. If I'm scum then this is only possible if I were the Godfather. FT flipped Godfather though, therefore if I'm scum I would have to be the roleblocker and that means TUF would have gotten a guilty on me.

LOL, Bossy already voted. What a waste of breathe.
Rules of Mafia

1. Mestari is never third party.
2. If Mestari claims an intricate and page long TP role, he's telling the truth.
3. Mestari always jointly wins with the town.
3b. If he doesn't he's mafia.
3c. If he was mafia you wouldn't suspect him in the first place.
4. If you lynch Mestari you will lose because he will be the third party Doctor or some other townie power role.
5. DP1 lynches are good.
6. The answer is always no.
F-16_Fighting_Falcon
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8/13/2012 3:39:07 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
TUF is lynched.

TUF - roleblocker.

Mestari - cop

Bossy - doc

TOWN WINS - Congratulations!

MVP: Mestari
Second best: LDF

Endgame

The setup obviously favored mafia immensely. But town were just superb. Mestari has become a really great townie. Nothing gets past this guy! He caught FT who is normally difficult to catch. LDF had some great reads as well and consistently made the right decision. Town were just rocking this rolling this game.

Anyways, if anyone has any complaints about game balance, I'll take them here.

Good job guys. Fun game to mod. I got the idea from mafiascum.
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8/13/2012 3:39:24 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 3:38:30 AM, Mestari wrote:
At 8/13/2012 3:37:51 AM, TUF wrote:
Okay the open role set up was a really bad idea. Especially with the roleblocker included. It was pretty easy to deduce who the last two mafia were. Based on the RB's.

Well, me and LDF had you figured out by DP3, and I had FT figured out as well. GG though.

You confirmed yourself through the RB's. If this wasn't open set up, your claim would have been called BS on, and you would have been lynched.
"I've got to go and grab a shirt" ~ Airmax1227
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8/13/2012 3:39:32 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 3:38:39 AM, Lickdafoot wrote:
At 8/13/2012 3:33:48 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:

Licky-bear (will you marry me?) - Vanilla townie

sure why not? :)

I didn't even notice till after last dp was over that tuf pmed me like four times to try and distract me from getting the lynch haha

LOL.
Is polygamy viable?
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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8/13/2012 3:40:39 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 3:39:24 AM, TUF wrote:
At 8/13/2012 3:38:30 AM, Mestari wrote:
At 8/13/2012 3:37:51 AM, TUF wrote:
Okay the open role set up was a really bad idea. Especially with the roleblocker included. It was pretty easy to deduce who the last two mafia were. Based on the RB's.

Well, me and LDF had you figured out by DP3, and I had FT figured out as well. GG though.

You confirmed yourself through the RB's. If this wasn't open set up, your claim would have been called BS on, and you would have been lynched.

@F-16 Would vanillas get RB notifications?
#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush
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8/13/2012 3:40:56 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
@F-16, I really REALLY like this setup. I would love to see more QF games using it and may even make a mafiascum account just to use it more. Winning without results just shows you what behavioral analysis can do and FORCES you to read people where otherwise you would sit back saying "results?"
Rules of Mafia

1. Mestari is never third party.
2. If Mestari claims an intricate and page long TP role, he's telling the truth.
3. Mestari always jointly wins with the town.
3b. If he doesn't he's mafia.
3c. If he was mafia you wouldn't suspect him in the first place.
4. If you lynch Mestari you will lose because he will be the third party Doctor or some other townie power role.
5. DP1 lynches are good.
6. The answer is always no.
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8/13/2012 3:41:15 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 3:39:07 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
Endgame

The setup obviously favored mafia immensely. But town were just superb. Mestari has become a really great townie. Nothing gets past this guy! He caught FT who is normally difficult to catch. LDF had some great reads as well and consistently made the right decision. Town were just rocking this rolling this game.

Anyways, if anyone has any complaints about game balance, I'll take them here.

Good job guys. Fun game to mod. I got the idea from mafiascum.

The idea of an open set up was a bad idea mainly due to the fact that it confirms players.

It was almost impossible for mafia to win during the end DP's if either cop or doc were alive. It relied that we con lucky and killed them early on.
"I've got to go and grab a shirt" ~ Airmax1227
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8/13/2012 3:41:22 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
meh I didn't play too good. I was relying on TUF to counter-claim cop, but I probably should have come out right away with a guilty on TUF instead.
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8/13/2012 3:41:28 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
i had fun that last dp trying to decide which team was guilty.

ultimately, it was a mix of both no one immediately hammering tuf (when i voted and unvoted him real quick) and mestaris rbing point.
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8/13/2012 3:41:36 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 3:40:59 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 8/13/2012 3:40:39 AM, bossyburrito wrote:

@F-16 Would vanillas get RB notifications?

Nope.

@Therefore I didn't "confirm" myself through RBs. It was statistically logical though.
Rules of Mafia

1. Mestari is never third party.
2. If Mestari claims an intricate and page long TP role, he's telling the truth.
3. Mestari always jointly wins with the town.
3b. If he doesn't he's mafia.
3c. If he was mafia you wouldn't suspect him in the first place.
4. If you lynch Mestari you will lose because he will be the third party Doctor or some other townie power role.
5. DP1 lynches are good.
6. The answer is always no.
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8/13/2012 3:42:16 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 3:38:39 AM, Lickdafoot wrote:
At 8/13/2012 3:33:48 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:

Licky-bear (will you marry me?) - Vanilla townie

sure why not? :)

I didn't even notice till after last dp was over that tuf pmed me like four times to try and distract me from getting the lynch haha

It was my last hope...
"I've got to go and grab a shirt" ~ Airmax1227
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8/13/2012 3:42:27 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 3:41:15 AM, TUF wrote:
At 8/13/2012 3:39:07 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
Endgame

The setup obviously favored mafia immensely. But town were just superb. Mestari has become a really great townie. Nothing gets past this guy! He caught FT who is normally difficult to catch. LDF had some great reads as well and consistently made the right decision. Town were just rocking this rolling this game.

Anyways, if anyone has any complaints about game balance, I'll take them here.

Good job guys. Fun game to mod. I got the idea from mafiascum.

The idea of an open set up was a bad idea mainly due to the fact that it confirms players.

It was almost impossible for mafia to win during the end DP's if either cop or doc were alive. It relied that we con lucky and killed them early on.

You are forced to CC cop immediately. If the town lynches between cops they are dumb.
Rules of Mafia

1. Mestari is never third party.
2. If Mestari claims an intricate and page long TP role, he's telling the truth.
3. Mestari always jointly wins with the town.
3b. If he doesn't he's mafia.
3c. If he was mafia you wouldn't suspect him in the first place.
4. If you lynch Mestari you will lose because he will be the third party Doctor or some other townie power role.
5. DP1 lynches are good.
6. The answer is always no.
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8/13/2012 3:42:51 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 3:42:16 AM, TUF wrote:
At 8/13/2012 3:38:39 AM, Lickdafoot wrote:
At 8/13/2012 3:33:48 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:

Licky-bear (will you marry me?) - Vanilla townie

sure why not? :)

I didn't even notice till after last dp was over that tuf pmed me like four times to try and distract me from getting the lynch haha

It was my last hope...

it was pretty smart idea actually :P
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8/13/2012 3:42:55 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/13/2012 3:41:22 AM, FourTrouble wrote:
meh I didn't play too good. I was relying on TUF to counter-claim cop, but I probably should have come out right away with a guilty on TUF instead.

I actually almost thought you were buddying with Tuf in that DP to try to let Mestari get a ML.
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"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush