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Mestari
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8/29/2012 7:19:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Dead Last DP

VK - Future: You are CURIOSITY. It's not uncommon for somebody to want to know more about another person. One may suppose that this is why cases of stalking have gone up. Maybe people have just become creepier. Nonetheless, for one reason or another people have started to follow each other more than before and it all comes down to learning about the stalkee. You are the TRACKER. Every night you may discover who a player visits. You win with the town.

Bossy - Past/Future: You are FATHER TIME. You are the King of this game. Every player relies on the ability to transverse the space-time continuum. As the master of this continuum you have the ability to prevent players from utilizing time travel. Once during the game you can prevent anybody from changing their time-state in BOTH the past and the future. You win with the mafia.

Dead Last NP

Drafter - ____________________________

Living Players

1. TUF
2. IFLY
3. F-16
4. Zaradi 2
5. Bluesteel
6. OneElephant 2
7. Budda

With 7 players remaining it takes 4 votes to lynch.
Rules of Mafia

1. Mestari is never third party.
2. If Mestari claims an intricate and page long TP role, he's telling the truth.
3. Mestari always jointly wins with the town.
3b. If he doesn't he's mafia.
3c. If he was mafia you wouldn't suspect him in the first place.
4. If you lynch Mestari you will lose because he will be the third party Doctor or some other townie power role.
5. DP1 lynches are good.
6. The answer is always no.
TUF
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8/29/2012 7:22:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Can someone bring up a drafter list?

Okay so I am not going to out my confirmed partner yet until he says its okay in the mason pm, but Drafter was town. I am not sure if he outted yet, but he was in my mason pm before he died.
"I've got to go and grab a shirt" ~ Airmax1227
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8/29/2012 7:27:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Dead

1) Drafter(1) - Organized Religion - PAST: Doctor - FUT: (unknown?) - CULT
2) Johnny - Money - PAST: Vanilla - FUT: Commuter - THIRD PARTY
3) Logic - Monopoly - PAST/FUT: Designated Killer, 1x Janitor - MAFIA
4) FT - Capitalism - PAST: (unknown?) - FUT: (unknown?) - MAFIA
5) Vmpire - Conspiracy - PAST: (unknown?) FUT: Nexus - TOWN
6) Caveat - Communication - PAST: Messenger - FUT: Mason - TOWN
7) west - Catholic Church - PAST: 1x Governor - FUT: (unknown) - TOWN
8) OneE - (Paranoia - PAST: Roleblocking PGO - FUT: Paranoid Sensor) - TOWN
9) Zaradi - Time Traveler - PAST and FUT: THIRD PARTY
10) Royal - Community - PAST: Cop - FUT: Hider - TOWN
11) ViperKing - Curiosity - PAST: Cop - FUT: Tracker - TOWN
12) Bossy - Father Time - PAST + FUTURE: 1X Stop commutes
13) Drafter(2) - Janitored - Claimed PAST: Miller - FUT: Miller + compulsive RB'er

Role Claims

1) F-16 - Enthusiasm - PAST: Cheerleader - FUT: Motivator (currently: cheerleader)
2) IFLY - Luck - PAST/FUT: Gambler (JOAT)
3) TUF - Digital Technology - PAST: N/A - FUT: Backup Mason Recruiter
4) Blue - Anger - PAST: Day Vig - FUT: Night Vig (currently: Day Vig)
5) OneE(2)/BH - Happiness - PAST: Beloved Princess - FUT: Miller (currently: Beloved Princess)
6) Zaradi(2)/Apollo - Loyalty - PAST: Vanilla - FUT: Vanilla
7) Budda - Security - PAST: Bodyguard - FUT: Jailkeeper (currently: Jailkeeper)
Zaradi
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8/29/2012 7:28:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I'm going to be relatively inactive for the next two-three days. I have a debate tournament this weekend (that I am woefully underprepared for), and have to go car shopping with my parents so that I get a car I want. If Mestari wants to replace me he can, but if not then I will try to be as active as I can.
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Buddamoose
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8/29/2012 7:35:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/29/2012 7:23:24 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
I was jailed last night, presumably by Budda.

and for all appearances there was no Nk. This migbt just have confirmed both of us F-16.
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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8/29/2012 7:37:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/29/2012 7:35:05 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 8/29/2012 7:23:24 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
I was jailed last night, presumably by Budda.

and for all appearances there was no Nk. This migbt just have confirmed both of us F-16.

What? Not sure I understand.

1) First of all there WAS an nk. Drafterman(2) is dead and has been janitored.

2) Secondly, if there was no nk, why would the two of us have been confirmed?
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8/29/2012 7:38:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/29/2012 7:22:52 PM, TUF wrote:
Can someone bring up a drafter list?

Okay so I am not going to out my confirmed partner yet until he says its okay in the mason pm, but Drafter was town. I am not sure if he outted yet, but he was in my mason pm before he died.

Nice, so they Janitor'd a mason

Disregard my last statement btw, didnt see Drafter had died.
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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8/29/2012 7:39:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/29/2012 7:38:00 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 8/29/2012 7:22:52 PM, TUF wrote:
Can someone bring up a drafter list?

Okay so I am not going to out my confirmed partner yet until he says its okay in the mason pm, but Drafter was town. I am not sure if he outted yet, but he was in my mason pm before he died.

Nice, so they Janitor'd a mason

Disregard my last statement btw, didnt see Drafter had died.

But what did you mean when you said that there not being an nk confirmed the two of us?
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8/29/2012 7:41:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/29/2012 7:37:00 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 8/29/2012 7:35:05 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 8/29/2012 7:23:24 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
I was jailed last night, presumably by Budda.

and for all appearances there was no Nk. This migbt just have confirmed both of us F-16.

What? Not sure I understand.

1) First of all there WAS an nk. Drafterman(2) is dead and has been janitored.

I didnt see had died

2) Secondly, if there was no nk, why would the two of us have been confirmed?

This is a rather basic concept F-16, if there is no NK, and a protective role claims a save, and nobody CC's, then both that protective role and the person saved are essentially confirmed at that point. Barring any conspiracy theory- esque ideas, that is.
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
TUF
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8/29/2012 7:43:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Looking at the drafter list, I have to say OneE and zaradi look the most suspicious. I have no idea what they're behaviors have been like given the many replacements, but their roles are pretty scummy. Same with F-16's, though because I have no idea what a motivator is.
"I've got to go and grab a shirt" ~ Airmax1227
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8/29/2012 7:45:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
@ Budda, okay I see where you are coming from.

@ TUF, my role as motivator allows me to target a player and allow them to use their role twice. It is pro-town unless I target a mafioso. IFLY confirmed that he was able to use his role twice when I targeted him.
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8/29/2012 7:49:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/29/2012 7:45:35 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
@ Budda, okay I see where you are coming from.

No, actually if you blocked me and there was no night kill, it would either mean that I am the last mafioso or that mafia targeted me. So, the night kill or lack of one wouldn't give an indication of either of our affialiations.
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8/29/2012 7:54:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
budda, justify how you made your protection choice
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
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8/29/2012 7:56:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
can someone make a drafterlist of everyone's full role summaries that they have posted?

or if that's too much work, every person re-post theirs here and someone can make a list.

Given how lengthy the roles summaries are, we might be able to see if any are fake

I don't understand why drafter was janitored personally unless for kicks
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
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8/29/2012 7:57:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/29/2012 7:49:14 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 8/29/2012 7:45:35 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
@ Budda, okay I see where you are coming from.

No, actually if you blocked me and there was no night kill, it would either mean that I am the last mafioso or that mafia targeted me. So, the night kill or lack of one wouldn't give an indication of either of our affialiations.

Your statement just throws doubt onto the person saved, not the person saving, so i dont get where ur comin from exactly.
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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8/29/2012 7:59:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/29/2012 7:54:16 PM, bluesteel wrote:
budda, justify how you made your protection choice

F-16 being a motivator I figured it likely mafia would go for him while leaving you alone, because due to ur WIFOM about, "you can stay on me cause I'm useless at night," well then that just causes them to kill someone else.
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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8/29/2012 8:03:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I'll make a Drafterlist if everyone posts their role summaries.

Here's mine:

Future: I am ENTHUSIASM. Progress can only be made if people are enthusiastic about their goals. People nowadays are motivated to work longer hours and love it. I encourage people to work twice as hard as they normally would. I am the MOTIVATOR. Every night I may choose one player to allow them to use their role twice. I cannot target the same player more than once during the game. I win with the town.

Past: I am ENTHUSIASM. In the old days, people preferred a quiet life and did not place a high value on effeciency or speed. Being too enthusiastic and cheering others on yielded no response. I am the CHEERLEADER. Each night, I MUST visit a player. Nothing occurs except that I show up as visiting that player. I win with the town.
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8/29/2012 8:07:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/29/2012 7:59:44 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 8/29/2012 7:54:16 PM, bluesteel wrote:
budda, justify how you made your protection choice

F-16 being a motivator I figured it likely mafia would go for him while leaving you alone, because due to ur WIFOM about, "you can stay on me cause I'm useless at night," well then that just causes them to kill someone else.

What about the Mason or the confirmed Mason recruit? You misread too - F-16 is currently a cheerleader - a purposely useless role.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
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8/29/2012 8:07:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/29/2012 7:57:33 PM, Buddamoose wrote:

Your statement just throws doubt onto the person saved, not the person saving, so i dont get where ur comin from exactly.

I am not casting doubt on the protector, I am trying to get the facts straight.

1) If you jailed X and there is a night kill, it means X is not the last mafioso. Either X is town, or X is mafia and somebody else is also mafia.

2) If you jailed X and there is no night kill, it means that
a) X could be the last mafioso. It also means that
b) X could be town and the mafia targeted X.

X cannot be confirmed as town but can be confirmed as not being the last mafioso.

In the case of 2b, the protector is confirmed.
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8/29/2012 8:08:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Past: [I am] ANGER. [In the past] when [men became] angry they settled [their differences the old fashioned way]. They both [gathered] in the [town square] each [equipped with a gun]. [At the ding of the town clock, they would fire upon each other.] [I am capable of killing out in the open and am thus] the DAY VIG. [Description of day vig]. [The mod] will [tell everyone] that [I was] the killer. IWWTT

Future: [I am <same character>]. [In the future, there were fewer open-air] killings. Instead ... people [expressed] their anger ... in the [cover of] darkness... [K]illers [are not willing to] risk [getting caught]. [I am] the NIGHT VIG. [Role description.] [The mod] will not [tell everyone who performed my kill.] IWWTT
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
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8/29/2012 8:12:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/29/2012 8:07:08 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 8/29/2012 7:59:44 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
At 8/29/2012 7:54:16 PM, bluesteel wrote:
budda, justify how you made your protection choice

F-16 being a motivator I figured it likely mafia would go for him while leaving you alone, because due to ur WIFOM about, "you can stay on me cause I'm useless at night," well then that just causes them to kill someone else.

What about the Mason or the confirmed Mason recruit? You misread too - F-16 is currently a cheerleader - a purposely useless role.

Really? Oh, well then. My mistake then. As for the mason, I always stray away from investigative roles as a jailor. Being that the possibility of a protective role being on them is high, a protective role likely isnt needed.

But now I'll prolly have to protect him tonight anyways... seeing as these pointless questions only suit to disclose pertinent tactics used by a player, thus allowing mafia to strategize more effectively.
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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8/29/2012 8:18:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/29/2012 8:07:29 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 8/29/2012 7:57:33 PM, Buddamoose wrote:

Your statement just throws doubt onto the person saved, not the person saving, so i dont get where ur comin from exactly.

I am not casting doubt on the protector, I am trying to get the facts straight.

Okeh, care to explain how any of this even matters currently?

1) If you jailed X and there is a night kill, it means X is not the last mafioso. Either X is town, or X is mafia and somebody else is also mafia.

Aye, this would be the current situation in which neither player is confirmed.

2) If you jailed X and there is no night kill, it means that
a) X could be the last mafioso. It also means that
b) X could be town and the mafia targeted X.

X cannot be confirmed as town but can be confirmed as not being the last mafioso.

Aye, that would be in the case one. Which doesnt confirm them as town, just not as the last mafioso.

In the case of 2b, the protector is confirmed.

2a as well.
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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8/29/2012 8:22:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Future: I am SECURITY. Society has realized that the best way to rid the world of crime is to take criminals off of the streets. The human race is the only species that builds prisons to cage its own kind, truly fascinating creatures. Thus I am the JAILER. Every night I may target one player to protect and role block. I win with the town.

Past: I am SECURITY. Back in the days of the "Wild West" security meant assigning a sheriff to a town to protect it. Therefore I am the Bodyguard, every night i may protect one person, preventing them from being killed. If when I am protecting that person, they would die, I die instead. I win with the town.
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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8/29/2012 8:25:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
@ Budda, it matters because we want to be accurate about the possibilities. But I am not going to continue this since it isn't relevant now.

We know I am not mafia if there is only one mafioso left. If there are more than one, I am still unconfirmed.

I can confirm your role as a jailer.

Once everyone paraphrases their role, I'll make a Drafterlist.

As for results, IFLY and TUF are the two players who could potentially have results. If TUF wants to wait for approval from his recruit, that's fine, but clearing a player should be beneficial since TUF could potentially be nk'ed tonight. If Budda jails him, he won't have another recruit and we are back at square 1.

Also, with TUF's and IFLY's results, we should be able to narrow down our list.
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8/29/2012 8:36:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
@F-16- it specifically said you were jailed? Well thag convenient.

Also, you only think there is one mafioso left? If so then I guess accordimg to 1A, you are confirmed? Which is good, as TUF has another player he can confirm, thus that means Four players out of 7 cleared.
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
-Airmax1227

"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion
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8/29/2012 8:56:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
@ Budda, yes. It specifically said "jailed."

Also, besides mafia, we should also be looking for who Johnny's partner is. Johnny is apparently third party lover with another player. So, probably a role that bears similarities to Johnny's.
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8/29/2012 11:00:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I have no results to share. I'll catch up later, don't have much time to post analysis. My top FOS's are still OneE and Zaradi. I'll post my role justification here in a sec.
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8/29/2012 11:07:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Past/Future: You are LUCK. It seems you have had your hand in everything. Be it in casinos or getting an unexpected promotion at work, people always seem to attribute their successes to Luck. Therefore you are as versatile as a JOAT. However, since luck is random, so will your powers to a degree. You are the GAMLBER. You have the following powers:

Cop
Watcher
Doctor(Forgot to include this in my original paraphrased role PM)
Role reverser
Roleblocker
Nothing

[Huge insert explaining how my role works]

Results

NP1: Rolled Watcher and Vmpire. Received the message "FT was untargettable" which is why I thought there was a redirector or bus driver.
NP2: Kept watcher and rolled Zaradi(1) as my target. Nobody visited him. Keep in mind my results only apply to the future DP. So people in the past may have visited Zaradi(1) NP2, but it wouldn't show on my watcher results.
NP3: Rolled watcher and F-16 as my target. Nobody visited.
NP4: Rolled nothing and BH as my target.
NP5: Rolled Doctor twice. Zaradi(1) was my first target and my second target was myself.
NP6: Rolled role reverser and Blue. Forfeited NA.
NP7: Kept role reverser and rolled Drafter.
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8/30/2012 12:48:21 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I think Zaradi(2) is scum. Hang on, I'll make a grand Drafterlist with all the paraphrases. I found Zaradi's paraphrase last DP. Still waiting on OneE's and TUF's. They probably paraphrased at some point but I can't find it.