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Viper-King
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10/6/2012 1:29:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Introduction to 3rd Parties:

So far you've only been playing with two parties: The Town and Mafia. This game we will introduce Third Parties. These parties are in it for themselves. They are anti-town AND anti-mafia. Third Parties are also the Parties of extreme. Some are Parties by themselves, and can't rely on help from anyone else and hardly ever win unless the game is specifically balanced to support them. Others are very powerful and can exploit whatever situation the game is to leverage a win as they really don't care who, Town or Mafia, has an advantage.

It takes 5 votes to lynch.

1. OberHerr
2. TheAntidoter
3. Buddamoose
4. Maxx233
5. Jordan56
6. IShallAnnoyYo
7. DaytonaNerd
8. IShallAnnoyYo
ishallannoyyo
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10/6/2012 3:41:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/6/2012 1:29:05 PM, Viper-King wrote:
Introduction to 3rd Parties:

So far you've only been playing with two parties: The Town and Mafia. This game we will introduce Third Parties. These parties are in it for themselves. They are anti-town AND anti-mafia. Third Parties are also the Parties of extreme. Some are Parties by themselves, and can't rely on help from anyone else and hardly ever win unless the game is specifically balanced to support them. Others are very powerful and can exploit whatever situation the game is to leverage a win as they really don't care who, Town or Mafia, has an advantage.

It takes 5 votes to lynch.

1. OberHerr
2. TheAntidoter
3. Buddamoose
4. Maxx233
5. Jordan56
6. IShallAnnoyYo
7. DaytonaNerd
8. IShallAnnoyYo

I'm on the list twice, shouldn't it then be 4 votes to lynch? Did you create the game designed for 8 players or for 7?

Anyways, Antidoter is newest here (I think) so VTL Antidoter
Buddamoose
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10/6/2012 4:57:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
VTL Antidoter under noob rule. Then afterwards I think Ishallannoyo would be best not only because of the noob rule, but generally Ishall is inactive too. The double SOP whammy
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10/7/2012 6:50:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Play Naow Pl0X
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10/7/2012 7:07:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Ok, thats enough on Anti. Now...we wait.....

I win with the Town.
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Buddamoose
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10/7/2012 7:10:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I win with Oberherr
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OberHerr
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10/7/2012 9:47:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/7/2012 9:36:49 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
At 10/7/2012 7:25:45 PM, Zaradi wrote:
*innocent whistling*
Looks like y'all might need a replacement....

I second that.

Thirded.
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TheAntidoter
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10/8/2012 8:58:08 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I'm afraid since nobody knows anything except to try and lynch me, the cop will have to investigate this further.

I win with the town.

P . S I do not know what the "Noob rule is"
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10/8/2012 9:10:12 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/8/2012 8:58:08 AM, TheAntidoter wrote:
I'm afraid since nobody knows anything except to try and lynch me, the cop will have to investigate this further.

I win with the town.

P . S I do not know what the "Noob rule is"

P. P. S For now,

VTNL. I will have to wait since #1 I am getting pressured to reveal my role and. And that just goes to show, I am suspicious of the people who go to lynch just because of a "noob rule" not shown in the beginners explanation thread and inactivity. I suspect foul play. On the other hand, Someone has to get this started. My suspicions are based on a thread that suggests a 1/3 mafia to 2/3 town/third party. And 3/8 is not that far from 3/9. That is why I am suspicious of this.
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Jordan56
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10/8/2012 10:34:03 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/8/2012 8:58:08 AM, TheAntidoter wrote:
I'm afraid since nobody knows anything except to try and lynch me, the cop will have to investigate this further.

I win with the town.

P . S I do not know what the "Noob rule is"

We are pressuring you because you are the newest player to the game. The noob rule is to pressure the newest player because they are sure to make a mistake if they are mafia.

We don't want to lynch you. We are only voting to lynch you to kind of scare you into saying your role which is called pressure. We will remove the votes once you say your role. The longer you wait, the scummier you will seem.
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10/8/2012 11:02:53 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Umm, Well I soft claimed it... Does that count?

P.S Thanks for explaining.
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OberHerr
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10/8/2012 11:40:15 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Anti....your over thinking it. EVERY game a couple people will be pressured to reveal their roles. If we wanted to lynch you, I would have VTL'ed you as well. We just want you to claim your role, or give us an good reason for why your not. That all.
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Buddamoose
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10/8/2012 12:27:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Antidoter, the Stand Operating Procedure DP1 is to get a couple claims and then VTNL. Now it is usually inactive/noob(new) players that these claims are gotten from for three reasons:

1) Inactive players are among the first to claim due to it being much more difficult to discern affiliation of these players being there is little behavior to analyze. It is best to have these players claim early, so there is a solid indicator of their affiliation ".

2) Noob(new) players are among the first to claim because as newer players there is more of a chance that these players will make a mistake, or scum-slip.

3) The justification for the noob/inactive SOP's is alot better than random pressure, as it still provides justification for voting, which is of the itmost importance. A player MUST justify their vote, or the act of voting itself not only becomes scummy, but it also means their vote itself means little in terms of pressure.
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TheAntidoter
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10/8/2012 2:27:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I see. SO you pressured me to claim that I am a cop that wins with the town.

I still hold my position. I think I understand now.
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Jordan56
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10/8/2012 5:48:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
1. OberHerr
2. TheAntidoter - Cop - uncc'd
3. Buddamoose
4. Maxx233
5. Jordan56
6. IShallAnnoyYo
7. DaytonaNerd
8. Johnnyboy54

I am assuming you are cop. We should get one more claim and call it a VTNL. Watcher and doc should be on TheAntidoter since he easily claimed cop, that should prevent a kill.

Unvote

VTL Ishallannoyyo
for a role
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10/8/2012 6:11:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Unvote VTL Ishallannoyo
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10/9/2012 3:15:08 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
oh hai... been a bit preoccupied lately and hadn't noticed this game started, sorry bout that, I'll try to be a bit more active, eh ;)

Ummm, I add figurative pressure to iShall, will add an actual VTL if he refuses to claim.

PS - Anti, good to see a new face :) Hope it's a good game!

PPS - seriously, why isn't the noob rule in the new player guide? Some of us are rather standoffish when unexpectedly ordered to claim for no reason lol *whistles innocently*
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10/9/2012 8:59:37 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
So let me get this straight

VTL Antidoter: IShall 1/8
VTL Ishall: Jordan, BuddhaMoose 2/8 Figurative Pressure: Maxx223 1/8
VTNL Antidoter 1/8

Not voted yet: DaytonaNerd, OberHerr, JohnnyBoy54, And technically Maxx223
4/8
So that is where we are at right? Just checking.
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Jordan56
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10/9/2012 9:19:59 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Unofficial Vote Count

TheAntidoter - (1/5) - Ishall
Ishallannoyyo - (2/5) - Jordan56, Buddamoose
VTNL - (1/5) - TheAntidoter

It takes 5 votes to lynch or to come to a conclusion for a VTNL. That way it is an even majority. We don't have to wait for everyone to vote
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10/9/2012 9:37:37 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/9/2012 8:59:37 AM, TheAntidoter wrote:
So let me get this straight

VTL Antidoter: IShall 1/8
VTL Ishall: Jordan, BuddhaMoose 2/8 Figurative Pressure: Maxx223 1/8
VTNL Antidoter 1/8


Not voted yet: DaytonaNerd, OberHerr, JohnnyBoy54, And technically Maxx223
4/8
So that is where we are at right? Just checking.

Believe that looks right. For future reference it's usually listed in a format more like this for easy reference:

Unofficial Vote Count
Antidoter: 1/5 - IShall
Ishall: 2/5 - Jordan, BuddhaMoose
VTNL: 1/5 - Antidoter

... No need to put VTL before the names, and the vote count is x out of y, x being the count, y being the number currently needed to lynch/VTNL

Figurative pressure isn't really counted, I just did that so iShall knows I'm eyeballing him, actively playing, and willing to add more pressure if needed. So that you know: the reason I don't just go ahead and add it now is because there's probably two or three mafiosos, and if we over-pressure a townie - putting them at 4/5 votes needed to lynch them, or in other words one vote away from being lynched which is abbreviated as "L-1", then it makes it really easy for mafia to "hammer" the vote (cast the final votes needed to lynch) and cause a mislynch. Which is obviously usually a good thing for them if they can make their votes look like normal town votes - with some tactic like "I'm sure iShall is scum! He hasn't claimed since we started pressuring him 3 hours ago darnit! And last time he posted he used an exclamation point - he never uses exclamation points as town!!! Let's get this game moving, vtl ishall fer the win!" ... or something more delicate than that, but you see the point ;)
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10/9/2012 9:39:09 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
lol, ehh, jordan beat me by 17 minutes! Ugh..That's what I get for not refreshing before I post while I'm working :)
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10/9/2012 11:27:37 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/7/2012 7:10:52 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
I win with Oberherr

Hmm... I wonder what that could mean. Is it a third party position? Is it a Mason following? I really do not know. Or maybe he is just saying he wins with the town.
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10/9/2012 12:24:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/9/2012 11:27:37 AM, TheAntidoter wrote:
At 10/7/2012 7:10:52 PM, Buddamoose wrote:
I win with Oberherr

Hmm... I wonder what that could mean. Is it a third party position? Is it a Mason following? I really do not know. Or maybe he is just saying he wins with the town.

If Oberherr wins with the town, and if I win with Oberherr, then that means ______
"Reality is an illusion created due to a lack of alcohol"
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"You were the moon all this time, and he was always there to make you shine."

"Was he the sun?"

"No honey, he was the darkness"

-Kazekirion