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Fire and Ice Mafia DP5

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11/16/2012 5:11:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Drafterman (2) has been killed by the Ice Mafia last night. He was a vanilla townie. (Those townies just keep dying out, don't they?) As for the Fire Mafia...

DAY PHASE 5

List of Replacements in this game

*HCP (2) had replaced OberHerr DP3*
*Tvellalott (2) had replaced Mestari NP2 who replaced Zaradi NP1*
*Drafterman (2) had replaced SocialPinko DP2*
*IFLY(2) had replaced Johnny DP2*

Dead Players

1) IFLYHIGH (1) - Vengeful Townie - TOWN - Lynched DP1
2) Logic_on_Rails - Ice Mafia Goon - ICE MAFIA - Venge-Killed DP1
3) Drafterman (1) - Town Doctor - TOWN - Killed NP1
4) HCP (1) - Town Macho Ice Cop - TOWN - Killed NP1
5) Daytonanerd - Hidden Ice Miller - TOWN - Killed NP2
6) TVellalott (1) - Vanilla Townie - TOWN - Killed NP2
7) FourTrouble - Town Macho Fire Cop - TOWN - Lynched DP3
8) Buddamoose - Vanilla Townie - TOWN - Killed NP3
9) Bossyburrito - Vanilla Townie - TOWN - Lynched DP4
10) Drafterman (2) - Vanilla Townie - TOWN - Killed NP4

Active Players

1) Tvellalott (2) (replaced Zaradi/Mestari)
2) HCP (2) (replaced OberHerr)
3) IFLYHIGH (2) (replaced Johnnyboy)
4) Medic
5) OneElephant

With 5 players alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch.

Time Limit: 72 hours
tvellalott
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11/16/2012 6:09:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I told you I was bulletproof you silly fire Mafia.
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tvellalott
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11/16/2012 6:11:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Hmmm... We have three Mafia and a third party left.

Lol.
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11/16/2012 6:13:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Okay. Well it looks like the Fire Mafia targeted TV last night - although I wouldn't put it past TV as mafia to waive and use it as an attempt at confirmation.

It's basically LYLO, I think. If we don't hit fire mafia, it's game over.
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11/16/2012 6:14:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/16/2012 6:11:40 PM, tvellalott wrote:
Hmmm... We have three Mafia and a third party left.

Lol.

What. Are you claiming lyncher?
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11/16/2012 6:36:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/16/2012 6:14:15 PM, OneElephant wrote:
At 11/16/2012 6:11:40 PM, tvellalott wrote:
Hmmm... We have three Mafia and a third party left.

Lol.

What. Are you claiming lyncher?

No? I'm bulletproof and last night proves it. At this point in the game there is no advantage for fire mafia to forfeit a night kill. . We need everyone to chime in. Fire Mafia are in the best position so the rest of us should work together to get rid of them.
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OneElephant
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11/16/2012 7:22:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/16/2012 6:36:55 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 11/16/2012 6:14:15 PM, OneElephant wrote:
At 11/16/2012 6:11:40 PM, tvellalott wrote:
Hmmm... We have three Mafia and a third party left.

Lol.

What. Are you claiming lyncher?

No? I'm bulletproof and last night proves it. At this point in the game there is no advantage for fire mafia to forfeit a night kill. . We need everyone to chime in. Fire Mafia are in the best position so the rest of us should work together to get rid of them.

The original post detailing the roles stated that there were 2 roles out of a list of randomized roles that included the lyncher. If IFLY was the hated townie and you're the bulletproof, then I don't see why you would think there'd be a third party lyncher.

Although I see your point about the fire mafia.
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11/16/2012 7:39:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
*Drafterman (3) replaces HCP (2) for inactivity*
*HCP (2) had replaced OberHerr DP3*
*Tvellalott (2) had replaced Mestari NP2 who replaced Zaradi NP1*
*Drafterman (2) had replaced SocialPinko DP2*
*IFLY(2) had replaced Johnny DP2*

Active Players

1) Tvellalott (2) (replaced Zaradi/Mestari)
2) Drafterman (3) (replaced HCP (2)/OberHerr)
3) IFLYHIGH (2) (replaced Johnnyboy)
4) Medic
5) OneElephant

With 5 players alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch.

Time Limit: 70 hours
drafterman
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11/16/2012 8:37:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Analysis Results, part 1:
If we lynch the Third Party, Fire Mafia wins.
- With 3rd gone, the Fire Mafia's targets are between me and the remaining Ice Mafia.
- They'll Night Kill the Ice Mafia.
- Regardless of what the Ice Mafia does, that either leaves Ice Mafia vs. 2 Fire Mafia, or 1 Fire Mafia by himself.
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11/16/2012 8:39:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Analysis Results, part 2:
If we lynch Ice Mafia, Fire Mafia wins.
- With Ice Mafia gone, the Fire Mafia's targets are between me and the third party.
- They'll Night Kill the Third Party.
- That leaves me vs. 2 Fire Mafia.
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11/16/2012 8:45:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Analysis Results, part 3:
If we lynch me and Ice Mafia shoots the 3rd, Fire Mafia wins.
- With me and the 3rd gone, the Ice Mafia is faced against 2 Fire Mafia, assuming they didn't kill him during the night.
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11/16/2012 8:49:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Based on the above, it's probably best to try and lynch a Fire Mafia, but doing so would require everyone claiming honestly, but the Fire Mafia are unable to do that.

The next best thing, I feel. Is to No Lynch.

Also, night killing me will probably result in a Fire Mafia win (since they'll just kill someone that isn't me)

VTNL
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11/16/2012 10:21:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Look, I ill just be honest. I replaced the lyncher and my target was bossy.
I've already won.
If I live until the end of the game I get bonus points. That means it's in my best interests to vote with the fire mafia.

If they claim, I will vote with them and they can come second.
Otherwise, we lynch someone anyway and they risk having one of their own lynched and 2nd place suddenly isn't certain.

Your move fire mafia.
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medic0506
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11/17/2012 11:50:18 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Ok I don't see a path to be able to win so about the best I can hope for is a tie for second (depending on whether TV actually won or not), or to bring someone else down so that I'm not in last place by myself. Fire mafia already knows who everyone is now anyway so I'll claim, I'm ice mafia. I'll work with whoever will allow me to not finish in last place alone, even if that means me and the other fire mafia shooting each other tonight.

Apparently Drafter's telling the truth or he'd have been cc'd by now. Either IFH and 1E are fire mafia and TV's telling the truth, or TV is fire mafia and he and his partner passed on the night kill and planned the gambit to try to get the actual TP lynched when he cc's TV. I'm leaning toward option 1 since IFH was on my case for something silly earlier, and 1E has hardly posted yet hasn't been replaced.

@IFH and 1E, if you guys are fire mafia then TV's telling the truth and may have won, but there's a chance he's lying about winning to get you to give up, and is actually the survivor. If you want we can eliminate that possibility, worst case scenario we prevent him from getting a double win, winning by lynch AND surviving. I'll help you lynch TV, you guys kill Drafter tonite and I'll pass on my kill, and you guys lynch me tomorrow. You get first, me second (If TV's actually the survivor).

@TV, if you're fire mafia then vote for the TP and I'll help you lynch him. Same offer as above goes for you and your partner.

That's the best scenario I can see for me so it's up to fire mafia.
tvellalott
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11/17/2012 3:30:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I believe you and drafter, medic.

And my claim was just an attempt to fvck over the fire mafia so tv(1) could come second.

Vote IFLY

Lol.
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11/17/2012 4:18:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I'm going to make this short because i don't have much time.

I'm the TP survivor. I've realized TV has been trying to get the TP to claim for awhile now. And tbh, this is really obvious. Why would Fire mafia target TV after he claimed BP? They knew there was a BP in this game, whether it was a townie BP or TP BP. I know I was targeted last night because I was told I lost my BP powers.

I know nobody here probably wants a survivor win, but Fire mafia will win for sure if you lynch me. VTL TV. At this point, I'm certain that only Fire mafia would try to lure out the TP like that, so I know TV is more than likely Fire mafia.
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11/17/2012 4:29:25 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/17/2012 4:23:02 PM, OneElephant wrote:
Well I'm vanilla townie, so I'm actually confused as sh!t right now.

I honestly don't know whether you are Drafter is lying. I honestly don't care. VTL TV because he is obviously lying. I mean seriously, why would Fire mafia shoot TV if he claimed BP? We need to lynch Fire mafia this DP and TV is the only player that stands out to me as obvious fire mafia. Who else would try to lure the TP out like that?
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11/17/2012 4:32:17 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/16/2012 7:22:42 PM, OneElephant wrote:
At 11/16/2012 6:36:55 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 11/16/2012 6:14:15 PM, OneElephant wrote:
At 11/16/2012 6:11:40 PM, tvellalott wrote:
Hmmm... We have three Mafia and a third party left.

Lol.

What. Are you claiming lyncher?

No? I'm bulletproof and last night proves it. At this point in the game there is no advantage for fire mafia to forfeit a night kill. . We need everyone to chime in. Fire Mafia are in the best position so the rest of us should work together to get rid of them.

The original post detailing the roles stated that there were 2 roles out of a list of randomized roles that included the lyncher. If IFLY was the hated townie and you're the bulletproof, then I don't see why you would think there'd be a third party lyncher.

Although I see your point about the fire mafia.

Wait, okay, no. I read the original list of roles wrong - I thought that the third party roles were part of the randomly selected roles that included vanilla, hated townie, bulletproof, etc.
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11/17/2012 4:37:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/17/2012 4:29:25 PM, IFLYHIGH wrote:
At 11/17/2012 4:23:02 PM, OneElephant wrote:
Well I'm vanilla townie, so I'm actually confused as sh!t right now.

I honestly don't know whether you are Drafter is lying. I honestly don't care. VTL TV because he is obviously lying. I mean seriously, why would Fire mafia shoot TV if he claimed BP? We need to lynch Fire mafia this DP and TV is the only player that stands out to me as obvious fire mafia. Who else would try to lure the TP out like that?

I don't know. Can you give me some time to think it through?
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11/17/2012 4:39:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/17/2012 4:37:24 PM, OneElephant wrote:
At 11/17/2012 4:29:25 PM, IFLYHIGH wrote:
At 11/17/2012 4:23:02 PM, OneElephant wrote:
Well I'm vanilla townie, so I'm actually confused as sh!t right now.

I honestly don't know whether you are Drafter is lying. I honestly don't care. VTL TV because he is obviously lying. I mean seriously, why would Fire mafia shoot TV if he claimed BP? We need to lynch Fire mafia this DP and TV is the only player that stands out to me as obvious fire mafia. Who else would try to lure the TP out like that?

I don't know. Can you give me some time to think it through?

It's not like I'm going to force you to vote for him or something. Anyways, I'm going out for a little bit. I'll be back on as soon as I can. I probably should actually think about this too. Who is TV's partner is my question?
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11/17/2012 4:50:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I'm going to back out for a while and see who everyone else votes for, in order to get a better grip on things. I don't know if this will work, but I feel like the most vulnerable party right now, and I'm not very good at analyzing outcomes either.
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11/17/2012 4:53:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/17/2012 4:29:25 PM, IFLYHIGH wrote:
At 11/17/2012 4:23:02 PM, OneElephant wrote:
Well I'm vanilla townie, so I'm actually confused as sh!t right now.

I honestly don't know whether you are Drafter is lying. I honestly don't care. VTL TV because he is obviously lying. I mean seriously, why would Fire mafia shoot TV if he claimed BP? We need to lynch Fire mafia this DP and TV is the only player that stands out to me as obvious fire mafia. Who else would try to lure the TP out like that?

Lmao. I've already won bro. I'm just trying to do right by the town.
Fire Mafia (you) shot me because the tp (me) needs to die for you to have a chance at first place.
You hoped I was the survivor but I am not. My play makes no sense if I'm mafia. Yours does.

1E, you may very well be town. If you are you need to lynch to lynch IFLY to take this game to a three way mylo and have a hope of winning.
"Caitlyn Jenner is an incredibly brave and stunningly beautiful woman."

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11/17/2012 4:54:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/17/2012 4:29:25 PM, IFLYHIGH wrote:
At 11/17/2012 4:23:02 PM, OneElephant wrote:
Well I'm vanilla townie, so I'm actually confused as sh!t right now.

I honestly don't know whether you are Drafter is lying. I honestly don't care. VTL TV because he is obviously lying. I mean seriously, why would Fire mafia shoot TV if he claimed BP? We need to lynch Fire mafia this DP and TV is the only player that stands out to me as obvious fire mafia. Who else would try to lure the TP out like that?

IFLY, if you were TP, why would fire mafia waive in order to confirm TV? They could have just shot someone else and won right there by bringing it down to 2 - 1 - 1. Unless you're saying that they shot you?
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11/17/2012 5:04:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/17/2012 4:53:26 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 11/17/2012 4:29:25 PM, IFLYHIGH wrote:
At 11/17/2012 4:23:02 PM, OneElephant wrote:
Well I'm vanilla townie, so I'm actually confused as sh!t right now.

I honestly don't know whether you are Drafter is lying. I honestly don't care. VTL TV because he is obviously lying. I mean seriously, why would Fire mafia shoot TV if he claimed BP? We need to lynch Fire mafia this DP and TV is the only player that stands out to me as obvious fire mafia. Who else would try to lure the TP out like that?

Lmao. I've already won bro. I'm just trying to do right by the town.
Fire Mafia (you) shot me because the tp (me) needs to die for you to have a chance at first place.
You hoped I was the survivor but I am not. My play makes no sense if I'm mafia. Yours does.

1E, you may very well be town. If you are you need to lynch to lynch IFLY to take this game to a three way mylo and have a hope of winning.

Actually it probably won't matter. If we lynch IFLY we have 1 fire mafia, 1 ice mafia, 1 town and me.
If mafia coordinate they can have equal second place.
If mafia kill each other they will let town come second and have equal third.
If mafia both kill town, they let me decide who comes second. This is probably their best option.
If mafia both kill me, they both vote town and come equal second.
If they no kill, we go to 4 way.

Yeah... Town is fvcked.
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11/17/2012 5:04:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/17/2012 4:54:49 PM, OneElephant wrote:
At 11/17/2012 4:29:25 PM, IFLYHIGH wrote:
At 11/17/2012 4:23:02 PM, OneElephant wrote:
Well I'm vanilla townie, so I'm actually confused as sh!t right now.

I honestly don't know whether you are Drafter is lying. I honestly don't care. VTL TV because he is obviously lying. I mean seriously, why would Fire mafia shoot TV if he claimed BP? We need to lynch Fire mafia this DP and TV is the only player that stands out to me as obvious fire mafia. Who else would try to lure the TP out like that?

IFLY, if you were TP, why would fire mafia waive in order to confirm TV? They could have just shot someone else and won right there by bringing it down to 2 - 1 - 1. Unless you're saying that they shot you?

Exactly. You just busted his lie.
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