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socialpinko
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11/27/2012 11:21:00 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
==Town==

1. Zaradi- Jon Stewart- tracker- town
2. Daytona- Karl Rove- politician- town
3. Chicken- Ron Paul- miller- town
4. MilitaryAtheist- Marco Rubio- universal backup- town
5. Medic0506- Joe Biden- vanilla- town
6. Tv- Barack Obama- doctor- town
7. Johnny- Hilary Clinton- hunter- town
8. Antidoter- Rahm Emmanuel- vig- town

==Mafia==

9. Tulle- Darell Issa- mafia watcher
10. Budda- Joe Leibermann- mafia JOAT
11. Lk- Rand Paul- mafia roleblocker


==Cult==

12. Drafterman- Goldman Sachs- cult recruiter
13. F-5838- Mitt Romney- fake claimer- recruited to cult Np1
14. OneE- John McCain- bp- recruited to cult Np2

I'll post analysis and night actions later tonight.
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drafterman
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11/27/2012 11:52:45 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Town being made up primarily of low active players, who couldn't control the Day Phase was a severe handicap. I'm also not sure what the point of making Chicken miller was, except to imply the existence of a Cop for the mafia to fake claim, in which case - why?

I wanted to recruit MA, to gain the poli powers, but ended up recruiting LK instead.

Oh well.
tulle
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11/27/2012 11:54:45 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I'm not sure whether town was underpowered, or it just seemed that way because the tracker died early. But yeah, the inactive people really hurt town.

Anyway, looking forward to your analysis...
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11/27/2012 11:55:20 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/27/2012 11:52:45 AM, drafterman wrote:
Town being made up primarily of low active players, who couldn't control the Day Phase was a severe handicap. I'm also not sure what the point of making Chicken miller was, except to imply the existence of a Cop for the mafia to fake claim, in which case - why?

I wanted to recruit MA, to gain the poli powers, but ended up recruiting LK instead.

Oh well.

Who won? Mafia?
Zaradi
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11/27/2012 12:01:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Why you gotta janitor me Mafia? Why you hate me?

But no I'm actually legitimately curious. Why did y'all choose me? There was a plethora of more experienced and more active players. Did you just pick someone random for a fake-claim or what?
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tulle
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11/27/2012 12:05:59 PM
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At 11/27/2012 12:03:01 PM, Zaradi wrote:
It would've been great too since I tracked tulle np1. Too ba I died .-.

I didn't lie about any of my actions...
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TheAntidoter
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11/27/2012 12:09:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/27/2012 12:05:59 PM, tulle wrote:
At 11/27/2012 12:03:01 PM, Zaradi wrote:
It would've been great too since I tracked tulle np1. Too ba I died .-.

I didn't lie about any of my actions...

YOU LITTLE FVCKER
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tulle
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11/27/2012 12:10:25 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/27/2012 12:01:38 PM, Zaradi wrote:
Why you gotta janitor me Mafia? Why you hate me?

But no I'm actually legitimately curious. Why did y'all choose me? There was a plethora of more experienced and more active players. Did you just pick someone random for a fake-claim or what?

I don't even remember. I had rage-fit after the first DP and closed the thread so I can't go back to check :/

But from what I remember, we decided on you because you are a good player, but underrated good. We probably figured TV, F-16 or Drafter would be more likely to get Doc protection.
yang.
tulle
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11/27/2012 12:10:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/27/2012 12:09:38 PM, TheAntidoter wrote:

YOU LITTLE FVCKER

lmao trust me, my conscience was eating me up inside.
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11/27/2012 12:12:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Did mafia kill me? It didn't make sense to kill the player with townreads on LK and Tulle. Well, I figured there wasn't a doc and watcher but I thought TV was the scum.
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11/27/2012 12:13:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/27/2012 12:10:25 PM, tulle wrote:
At 11/27/2012 12:01:38 PM, Zaradi wrote:
Why you gotta janitor me Mafia? Why you hate me?

But no I'm actually legitimately curious. Why did y'all choose me? There was a plethora of more experienced and more active players. Did you just pick someone random for a fake-claim or what?

I don't even remember. I had rage-fit after the first DP and closed the thread so I can't go back to check :/

Why? What happenned?
TheAntidoter
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11/27/2012 12:16:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/27/2012 12:10:53 PM, tulle wrote:
At 11/27/2012 12:09:38 PM, TheAntidoter wrote:

YOU LITTLE FVCKER

lmao trust me, my conscience was eating me up inside.

I am the worst vig ever

2 games i get it
1 (still ongoing cannot talk about it)
1 I get endgamed

WHAT IS THIS?
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tulle
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11/27/2012 12:22:50 PM
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At 11/27/2012 12:13:33 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:

Why? What happenned?

I'm stupid lol. Originally we weren't allowed to use the Janitor on NP1. It never occurred to me (until you pointed it out at the beginning of DP2) that a janitor NP1 and Universal Backup that takes the role of the first dead person were incompatible.

So during NP1 I kept asking Social why we couldn't use it. He was like "Fine, you can use it for God's sake" or something and I took offence to that :/
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11/27/2012 12:40:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I cannot wait for those np actions social will release.

I really want to see what happened.
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11/27/2012 1:08:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/27/2012 12:03:20 PM, MilitaryAtheist wrote:
At 11/27/2012 12:00:49 PM, tulle wrote:
At 11/27/2012 11:58:55 AM, MilitaryAtheist wrote:

Dumba$$ OneE

lol I wonder why he did that :/

Ban him.

For the record, he did not deliberately invite being mod-killed. There were a couple of unanswered questions regarding the cult and OneE beig silenced, namely:

1. What would have happened if it was just cult and town?
2. Could OneE still vote?

Our only hope was to play pro-town and get mafia lynched and hope that we could win at 1 Town v 1 Cult. It was crucial that we get a mafioso lynched that last phase and we knew that LK was mafia.

We didn't know that OneE voting would result in a modkill, though we knew it was a possibility. We accepted the risk because it would have been a loss anyway. With LK pushing for a mislynch on TheAntidoter, and no one really critiqueing that, it was an issue of timing, in that we didn't feel we had any left.

Again, we did not deliberately invite a modkill.
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11/27/2012 1:39:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Cool cool. Good game.

Spinko, why did you place a miller without a cop?

Also, I know that I was really obvious in the last couple DPs but there were virtually no active players who would call me out (TV was ridiculously inactive), so I just stuck with it.
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11/27/2012 1:53:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Goddammit. I was just thinking scum team of Tulle and LK when I got back to my computer.

Why was OneE modkilled?
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socialpinko
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11/27/2012 1:53:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
==Night actions==

1. drafterman

Np1: recruited F-683
Np3: recruited OneE
Np3: recruited Lk (died as a result since Lk was mafia)

2. tvellalott

Np1: protected himself
Np2: protected himself
Np3: protected himself
Np4: protected Tulle

3. Budda (1x janitor, ninja, silencer)

Np1: janitored Zaradi
Np2: ninja killed OneE (unsuccessful)
Np3: killed F-69386
Np4: silenced OneE

4. Tulle

Np1: watched Zaradi
Np2: watched MA
Np3: watched Medic
Np4: watched Tv

5. InsertNameHere (Antidoter)

Np1: waived
Np2: MA (failed, roleblocked)
Np3: OneE (failed, OneE was BP)
Np4: Budda (failed, roleblocked)

6. LK

Np1: roleblocked Daytona
Np2: roleblocked INH (Antidoter)
Np3: roleblocked Johnny
Np4: roleblocked Antidoter

7. Zaradi

Np1: tracked Tulle (failed, died)

8. Daytona

Np1: put Zaradi's vote on himself (failed, roleblocked)

==Thoughts==

The turning point in the game was Np3 I think. Cult was making steady progress and no one even knew they existed. Then for whatever reason, mafia took out F-5828, leaving cult with two. If that wasn't enough Drafter recruited scum (LK) and died, leaving just OneE in the cult. If that hadn't happened I think cult would have likely won. Luck just wasn't having it.

Also I'm not really sure why OneE voted before getting an answer from me. I logged on to see he had asked me in his PM but had also gone and voted like four times in the Dp.

The reason I put Chicken in as a miller was just a subtle counterbalance to the mafia. I didn't give them a Godfather but I didn't want it to be too obvious there wasn't a cop, especially since all their roles were plausible fake claims (with the exception of the RB).

The business with Ma wasn't planned on my part. F-6t93 was right in pointing out that I don't always look out for every eventuality. I had originally planned not to let Budda use his janitor on Np1 but Tulle convinced me it would lose most of its utility afterwards. I just decided to not let MA assume the role as per it being janitored.

Something that really hurt the town was obviously the inactivity on their part. Tv, Medic, MA (who didn't even use his god damned poli role, wtf), and Johnny were ridiculously inactive while mafia's only inactive was Budda. If town had been more active I think more people would have caught on to LK's scum tells which for me were obvious from the start (though I had the advantage of knowing from the get go).
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: : At 9/29/2014 9:43:46 AM, kbub wrote:
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:
: I disagree.
socialpinko
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11/27/2012 1:54:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/27/2012 1:53:37 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
Goddammit. I was just thinking scum team of Tulle and LK when I got back to my computer.

Why was OneE modkilled?

He posted even though he had been silenced for the Dp.
: At 9/29/2014 10:55:59 AM, imabench wrote:
: : At 9/29/2014 9:43:46 AM, kbub wrote:
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: : DDO should discredit support of sexual violence at any time and in every way.
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: I disagree.
TheAntidoter
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11/27/2012 2:29:25 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
...

Tulle...

I had a town read on you...

the irony is just shocking...

I was going to lynch LK that dayphase...

But fate was there...

We both survived...

SocialPinko, You should totally host a game oflover's mafia. I would like that after this game.

LOL Take none of this seriously except for this statement.

And I failed my role, Just to top it off. No kills at all.
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11/27/2012 2:39:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Good game all, MVP split between Tulle and LK imo, but inactivity from town deserves an honorable mention XD.

Another fun theme as well Social.
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11/27/2012 2:47:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/27/2012 2:41:30 PM, drafterman wrote:
Antidoter, after daytona flipped innocent, why didn't you try and shoot LK?

Because umm.............................

I was confirming a role n stuff. I didn't want to use it if there was risks involved that could be avoided.

Above are excuses.
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