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Beginners 12.3 - DAY PHASE TWO

drafterman
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12/2/2012 8:53:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Died in the Night:
Chicken - ___________

F-16 is replacing Zeph
FourTrouble is replacing MilitaryAtheist


Living Players:
1. TheAntidoter
2. FourTrouble (MilitaryAtheist)
3. Jordan56
4. SarcasticIndeed
5. F-16 (Zeph)
6. Lannan13
7. johnnyboy54
8. Buddamoose
9. airmax1227

With 9 players, it takes 5 votes to lynch. This Day Phase will end no later than 9PM DDO time, on 12/4.
FourTrouble
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12/2/2012 9:07:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/2/2012 8:55:15 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
Jordan what are your tracker results?

Anyone else have any results?

VTL Lannan for claim

This looks like a good pro-town post coming from airmax.
F-16_Fighting_Falcon
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12/2/2012 9:09:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/2/2012 9:07:44 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 12/2/2012 8:55:15 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
Jordan what are your tracker results?

Anyone else have any results?

VTL Lannan for claim

This looks like a good pro-town post coming from airmax.

Why is it pro-town?
FourTrouble
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12/2/2012 9:11:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/2/2012 9:09:55 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 12/2/2012 9:07:44 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 12/2/2012 8:55:15 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
Jordan what are your tracker results?

Anyone else have any results?

VTL Lannan for claim

This looks like a good pro-town post coming from airmax.

Why is it pro-town?

Do you have any reason to believe it isn't?
F-16_Fighting_Falcon
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12/2/2012 9:17:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/2/2012 9:11:57 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 12/2/2012 9:09:55 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 12/2/2012 9:07:44 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 12/2/2012 8:55:15 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
Jordan what are your tracker results?

Anyone else have any results?

VTL Lannan for claim

This looks like a good pro-town post coming from airmax.

Why is it pro-town?

Do you have any reason to believe it isn't?

It read scummy to me but after rethinking it, I am null on it. It read scummy because the intro in DP1 specifically says that there will be misinformation - meaning we can't trust results as much and should favor behavioral analysis. That is why I asked Airmax if he read the rules.

Why did it read as town-ish to you?
TheAntidoter
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12/2/2012 9:21:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Hmm...

We should probably get some more claims

VTL Iannan for claim
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airmax1227
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12/2/2012 9:38:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/2/2012 9:17:01 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 12/2/2012 9:11:57 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 12/2/2012 9:09:55 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 12/2/2012 9:07:44 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 12/2/2012 8:55:15 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
Jordan what are your tracker results?

Anyone else have any results?

VTL Lannan for claim

This looks like a good pro-town post coming from airmax.

Why is it pro-town?

Do you have any reason to believe it isn't?

It read scummy to me but after rethinking it, I am null on it. It read scummy because the intro in DP1 specifically says that there will be misinformation - meaning we can't trust results as much and should favor behavioral analysis. That is why I asked Airmax if he read the rules.

Why did it read as town-ish to you?

It shouldn't be read as pro-town or anti-town.. it just is..

and yeah I read the intro, I know exactly what the nature of this game is... Once we have players saying what their results are we can evaluate the legitimacy of them... naturally if a cop says "guilty on whoever", we can't take it at face value... But we need player's results so we can progress and go from there.
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F-16_Fighting_Falcon
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12/2/2012 9:43:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/2/2012 9:07:24 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
I'm surprised one of the more experienced players was not night-killed. I'd say one of them is surely mafia.

VTL Budda

Also, drafterman randomizes the roles so I am not sure why you think one of the experienced players is "surely" mafia.
johnnyboy54
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12/2/2012 9:45:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/2/2012 9:07:24 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
I'm surprised one of the more experienced players was not night-killed. I'd say one of them is surely mafia.

VTL Budda

Why Budda specifically?
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey.
Jordan56
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12/2/2012 9:48:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/2/2012 8:55:15 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
Jordan what are your tracker results?

Anyone else have any results?

VTL Lannan for claim

No results.
johnnyboy54
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12/2/2012 9:48:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/2/2012 9:43:50 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 12/2/2012 9:07:24 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
I'm surprised one of the more experienced players was not night-killed. I'd say one of them is surely mafia.

VTL Budda

Also, drafterman randomizes the roles so I am not sure why you think one of the experienced players is "surely" mafia.

The idea is that the more experienced players are more likely targets for the night kill. I don't think I agree with the reason though, because there are too many unknown variables that factor into who the mafia is going to night kill.
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey.
Jordan56
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12/2/2012 10:03:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/2/2012 9:55:11 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
@ Jordan, did you get roleblocked? What do you mean no results?

I wasn't role blocked. I just got no tracker results.

@ Johnny, I agree with your post. You are definitely town.
FourTrouble
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12/2/2012 10:07:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/2/2012 9:55:11 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
@ Jordan, did you get roleblocked? What do you mean no results?

@ Johnny, I agree with your post. You are definitely town.

johnny is town because you agree with his post? How many times has mafia been the person you agree with about the most basic and general statements?
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12/2/2012 10:25:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/2/2012 10:07:36 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 12/2/2012 9:55:11 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
@ Jordan, did you get roleblocked? What do you mean no results?

@ Johnny, I agree with your post. You are definitely town.

johnny is town because you agree with his post? How many times has mafia been the person you agree with about the most basic and general statements?

He articulated what I was thinking very well. Similar thought processes indicate similar affiliations.

Why did you find Airmax post pro-town?
johnnyboy54
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12/2/2012 11:42:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/2/2012 10:25:48 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 12/2/2012 10:07:36 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 12/2/2012 9:55:11 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
@ Jordan, did you get roleblocked? What do you mean no results?

@ Johnny, I agree with your post. You are definitely town.

johnny is town because you agree with his post? How many times has mafia been the person you agree with about the most basic and general statements?

He articulated what I was thinking very well. Similar thought processes indicate similar affiliations.

Most of the time, yes. However, mafia makes themselves appear town by mimicking town thought processes. There is a possibility of error.

Why did you find Airmax post pro-town?
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey.
F-16_Fighting_Falcon
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12/2/2012 11:45:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/2/2012 11:42:08 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:

Most of the time, yes. However, mafia makes themselves appear town by mimicking town thought processes. There is a possibility of error.

Have I made an error? Or am I mafia bullshitting a townread on you?
johnnyboy54
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12/2/2012 11:54:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Okay right now I'm getting slight scum reads from Lannan and Antidoter. Their votes on Airmax last DP were not explained, and there really wasn't a reason to pressure for Airmax's claim so early.

I know this isn't much to go on, but I think it is a good starting point for discussion and getting claims.
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey.
SarcasticIndeed
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12/3/2012 6:33:52 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
This is kind of a weird situation. I'd expect an experienced user to die, but no deaths. I'm going to say that one of them is probably mafia, but unlikely that it's both of them. Or, mafia wanted a flavored cop to get a false read on one. That would still be less practical than a nightkill, though.

If anyone has results, please out them.
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lannan13
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12/3/2012 7:11:13 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I'm the bomb, I win with town.
Sorry for being so inactive I was gone for the weekend.
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TheAntidoter
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12/3/2012 7:31:57 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
List of claims
1. TheAntidoter - ???
2. Chicken - ???
3. MilitaryAtheist - Vinilla
4. Jordan56 - Tracker
5. SarcasticIndeed - ???
6. Zeph - ???
7. Lannan13 - Bomb
8. johnnyboy54 - ???
9. Buddamoose - ???
10. airmax1227 - ???
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Abilities: ????

Nac.

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lannan13
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12/3/2012 7:46:17 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
VTL Zeph for claim.
Nice job on the list.
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If the sky's the limit then why do we have footprints on the Moon? I'm shooting my aspirations for the stars.

"If you are going through hell, keep going." "Sir Winston Churchill

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." "Eleanor Roosevelt

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FourTrouble
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12/3/2012 8:32:09 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/2/2012 10:25:48 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 12/2/2012 10:07:36 PM, FourTrouble wrote:
At 12/2/2012 9:55:11 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
@ Jordan, did you get roleblocked? What do you mean no results?

@ Johnny, I agree with your post. You are definitely town.

johnny is town because you agree with his post? How many times has mafia been the person you agree with about the most basic and general statements?

He articulated what I was thinking very well. Similar thought processes indicate similar affiliations.

Why did you find Airmax post pro-town?

airmax's post got the game moving. Besides which, I don't know if airmax is town, but his post was a good place to start discussion.

I still do not see why you've come to the conclusion that johnny is "definitely" town. johnny has not offered any reads, and his statement is general enough to come from scum. What about it, other than the fact you agree, make it towny?
FourTrouble
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12/3/2012 8:43:30 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 12/3/2012 6:33:52 AM, SarcasticIndeed wrote:
This is kind of a weird situation. I'd expect an experienced user to die, but no deaths. I'm going to say that one of them is probably mafia, but unlikely that it's both of them. Or, mafia wanted a flavored cop to get a false read on one. That would still be less practical than a nightkill, though.

Why would the mafia think a flavored cop is any more likely to investigate an experienced player, rather than a scummy or inactive player? The chances are, mafia wants whoever was investigated to be night-killed, to keep town in the dark.
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12/3/2012 10:16:20 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Is anyone here a miller?

If so, that would (Ironically) help us.
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