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Beginners 12.3 DAY PHASE FOUR

drafterman
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12/6/2012 7:43:33 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Died in the Night:
Budda - Cop - Town

Previously Dead:
Chicken - ___________
TheAntidoer - Doctor - Town
Sarcastic - Framer - Mafia
Jordan - Even-night Tracker - Town

Living Players:
1. FourTrouble (MilitaryAtheist)
2. F-16 (Zeph)
3. Lannan13
4. johnnyboy54
5. airmax1227

With 5 players, it takes 3 votes to lynch. This Day Phase will end no later than 8PM DDO time, on 12/8.
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12/6/2012 10:14:30 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Dead

1) Chicken - ???????? - ???????
2) TheAntidoer - Doctor - Town
3) Sarcastic - Framer - Mafia
4) Jordan - Even-night Tracker - Town
5) Budda - Cop - Town

Role Claims

1) FourTrouble (MA) - Vanilla
2) Lannan13 - Bomb
3) airmax - Cop

No Claims

4) F-16
5) johnny
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12/7/2012 1:03:12 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 12:56:34 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
I am the hated townie.

F-16 we need your claim.

hmmm

Paraphrase your role PM and then I think maybe we should test it...

I think roles like Hated Townie just seem out of place in this game and are decent claims for mafia and 3rd parties
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johnnyboy54
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12/7/2012 1:15:11 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 1:03:12 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 12:56:34 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
I am the hated townie.

F-16 we need your claim.

hmmm

Paraphrase your role PM and then I think maybe we should test it...

I think roles like Hated Townie just seem out of place in this game and are decent claims for mafia and 3rd parties

???

You can't test a hated townie claim without killing the townie.
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey.
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12/7/2012 1:18:06 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 1:15:11 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 1:03:12 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 12:56:34 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
I am the hated townie.

F-16 we need your claim.

hmmm

Paraphrase your role PM and then I think maybe we should test it...

I think roles like Hated Townie just seem out of place in this game and are decent claims for mafia and 3rd parties


???

You can't test a hated townie claim without killing the townie.

yeah I know... I'm essentially suggesting we lynch you.. though someone else might have a better idea, so we'll wait on that.

But why don't you go ahead and paraphrase your role PM anyways
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12/7/2012 1:19:14 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 1:03:12 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 12:56:34 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
I am the hated townie.

F-16 we need your claim.

hmmm

Paraphrase your role PM and then I think maybe we should test it...

I think roles like Hated Townie just seem out of place in this game and are decent claims for mafia and 3rd parties

Why do you need my role paraphrase? This is not a themed game.
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey.
johnnyboy54
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12/7/2012 1:20:11 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 1:18:06 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 1:15:11 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 1:03:12 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 12:56:34 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
I am the hated townie.

F-16 we need your claim.

hmmm

Paraphrase your role PM and then I think maybe we should test it...

I think roles like Hated Townie just seem out of place in this game and are decent claims for mafia and 3rd parties


???

You can't test a hated townie claim without killing the townie.

yeah I know... I'm essentially suggesting we lynch you.. though someone else might have a better idea, so we'll wait on that.

Well that would be stupid because its likely close to mylo.

But why don't you go ahead and paraphrase your role PM anyways
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey.
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12/7/2012 1:24:39 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 1:19:14 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 1:03:12 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 12:56:34 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
I am the hated townie.

F-16 we need your claim.

hmmm

Paraphrase your role PM and then I think maybe we should test it...

I think roles like Hated Townie just seem out of place in this game and are decent claims for mafia and 3rd parties

Why do you need my role paraphrase? This is not a themed game.

Because I know how Drafter writes his role PMs... and from that I can deduce whether or not you just made it up
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12/7/2012 1:29:03 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
F-16 you should role claim...

After that we should lynch Johnny for the following reasons:

1) Hated townie is useless

2) I've got a scummy read on him

3) Any better ideas?

VTL Johnny


Anyone who hammers before F-16 role claims will be assumed mafia.
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12/7/2012 1:30:28 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I agree that lynching Johnny is a good idea. If we lynch someone other than Johnny and there are 3 players left at LYLO, then it will take 2 votes to lynch or 1 vote to lynch Johnny. That is an auto-win.

From a purely utilitarian perspective, if we lynch him now and he is mafia, good. If he is town, we have another shot. If we lynch a different townie, the game is over.
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12/7/2012 1:31:25 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 1:24:39 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 1:19:14 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 1:03:12 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 12:56:34 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
I am the hated townie.

F-16 we need your claim.

hmmm

Paraphrase your role PM and then I think maybe we should test it...

I think roles like Hated Townie just seem out of place in this game and are decent claims for mafia and 3rd parties

Why do you need my role paraphrase? This is not a themed game.

Because I know how Drafter writes his role PMs... and from that I can deduce whether or not you just made it up

Whatevs.

I am the hated townie. I take one less vote to lynch. I win with the town.

Pronouns changed to avoid modkill.
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey.
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12/7/2012 1:35:02 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 1:30:28 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
I agree that lynching Johnny is a good idea. If we lynch someone other than Johnny and there are 3 players left at LYLO, then it will take 2 votes to lynch or 1 vote to lynch Johnny. That is an auto-win.

From a purely utilitarian perspective, if we lynch him now and he is mafia, good. If he is town, we have another shot. If we lynch a different townie, the game is over.

No. There are five players left. There are likely 2 mafioso's left. If you kill me and I am town, that makes it 2 town to 2 mafia going into the night. With the NK, town loses.
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey.
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12/7/2012 1:36:27 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 1:31:46 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
I am the beloved princess.

VTL Johnny

Well that should be the hammer then if the hated townie claim is indeed legit.

Although if you are beloved princess the hated townie role seems to fit better..

eh idk... I still think Johnny is still the best target this DP... although F-16 was pretty quick to VTL him.. might be worth keeping in mind next DP..

But mostly I think Lannan is the most likely final mafia... and I'll probably be NK'd this NP so just figured I'd provide my last 2 cents..
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12/7/2012 1:38:30 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 1:30:28 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
I agree that lynching Johnny is a good idea. If we lynch someone other than Johnny and there are 3 players left at LYLO, then it will take 2 votes to lynch or 1 vote to lynch Johnny. That is an auto-win.

From a purely utilitarian perspective, if we lynch him now and he is mafia, good. If he is town, we have another shot. If we lynch a different townie, the game is over.

oh, I missed this post.. excellent point...

retract my "F-16 was quick to vote" comment that alluded scuminess onto F-16
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12/7/2012 1:41:02 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Goddammit I'm dead anyway. There was nothing else to fakeclaim that would be remotely believable.

VTL Johnny.

F-16 is not the beloved princess. He is the SK. Our kill last night failed.

Even though you were right, you guy's were right, it was fvcking stupid to lynch me. It's MYLO.
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey.
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12/7/2012 1:42:26 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 1:41:02 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
Goddammit I'm dead anyway. There was nothing else to fakeclaim that would be remotely believable.

VTL Johnny.

F-16 is not the beloved princess. He is the SK. Our kill last night failed.

Even though you were right, it was fvcking stupid to lynch me. It's MYLO and you lynched me because my role was useless. That's retarded.

fix'd.
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey.
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12/7/2012 1:51:06 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 1:48:28 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
Why do you think I am the SK?

Because we are not responsible to the kill on Budda. Also, your quick hammers without allowing for the argumentation on the part of the people you lynched indicates scum.

You are obviously scum, especially if you know what I know.
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey.
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12/7/2012 1:54:33 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 1:42:26 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 1:41:02 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
Goddammit I'm dead anyway. There was nothing else to fakeclaim that would be remotely believable.

VTL Johnny.

F-16 is not the beloved princess. He is the SK. Our kill last night failed.

Even though you were right, it was fvcking stupid to lynch me. It's MYLO and you lynched me because my role was useless. That's retarded.

fix'd.

Well I moved to lynch you cuz you are mafia based entirely on scum reads from this DP... but also from a risk-reward analysis that concluded it was a prudent move for town this DP... I think you might be overreacting just a bit... Although I do have a feeling a 3rd party (which may or may not be F-16) is still at large and may steal the win from the town.
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12/7/2012 1:58:02 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 1:51:06 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 1:48:28 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
Why do you think I am the SK?

Because we are not responsible to the kill on Budda. Also, your quick hammers without allowing for the argumentation on the part of the people you lynched indicates scum.

You are obviously scum, especially if you know what I know.

well you may be right... but you hammered yourself, so I'm not sure what exactly you are complaining about.. also the hammer on Sarcastic was a legit one... wasn't even really necessary to wait for him to fake claim something
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12/7/2012 2:01:32 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 1:58:02 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 1:51:06 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 1:48:28 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
Why do you think I am the SK?

Because we are not responsible to the kill on Budda. Also, your quick hammers without allowing for the argumentation on the part of the people you lynched indicates scum.

You are obviously scum, especially if you know what I know.

well you may be right... but you hammered yourself, so I'm not sure what exactly you are complaining about.. also the hammer on Sarcastic was a legit one... wasn't even really necessary to wait for him to fake claim something

I was dead in the water. It didn't matter. From what F-16 knew, he hammered.

And if we are going to lynch people without letting them defend themselves in the slightest, then its going to make things a lot easier for scum.
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey.
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12/7/2012 2:02:11 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 1:54:33 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 1:42:26 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 1:41:02 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
Goddammit I'm dead anyway. There was nothing else to fakeclaim that would be remotely believable.

VTL Johnny.

F-16 is not the beloved princess. He is the SK. Our kill last night failed.

Even though you were right, it was fvcking stupid to lynch me. It's MYLO and you lynched me because my role was useless. That's retarded.

fix'd.

Well I moved to lynch you cuz you are mafia based entirely on scum reads from this DP... but also from a risk-reward analysis that concluded it was a prudent move for town this DP... I think you might be overreacting just a bit... Although I do have a feeling a 3rd party (which may or may not be F-16) is still at large and may steal the win from the town.

What scum reads? I claimed. That's it. There was no behavior to analyze. And it was MYLO. You guys ignored any sort of discussion. Yeah you were right this time, but most times your not going to be so lucky.
I didn't order assholes with my whiskey.
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12/7/2012 2:05:06 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/7/2012 2:01:32 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 1:58:02 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 1:51:06 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 12/7/2012 1:48:28 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
Why do you think I am the SK?

Because we are not responsible to the kill on Budda. Also, your quick hammers without allowing for the argumentation on the part of the people you lynched indicates scum.

You are obviously scum, especially if you know what I know.

well you may be right... but you hammered yourself, so I'm not sure what exactly you are complaining about.. also the hammer on Sarcastic was a legit one... wasn't even really necessary to wait for him to fake claim something

I was dead in the water. It didn't matter. From what F-16 knew, he hammered.

And if we are going to lynch people without letting them defend themselves in the slightest, then its going to make things a lot easier for scum.

F-16 didn't hammer... you did..

Who did we lynch without letting them defend them self?

Sarcastic placed the Hammer on the inno lynched on DP1 and he turned out to be your mafia teammate.

While your overall point may be correct, (and F-16 may be the SK) it being argued from someone who just hammered them self and also happens to be mafia seems rather odd.
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