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Ore_Ele
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12/13/2012 10:13:49 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Welcome to DDO's invest-a-member game. This going to be like a basic stock investment game, but rather than investing in companies, you are investing in DDO members and their "market value" (which is what scores will be based on) will be ELO scores. Of course, players are allowed to buy, sell, and trade at any value they want, if the think someone is over valued or under valued.

There will be an interesting twist, however. Only one player may invest in any member (so not everyone can invest in Roy or Danielle). This twist is to add scarcity to this "market" so there can actually be trades.

With all members, we will start with a 5 round draft (order will be determined by player ELO score) and each player will also be given 10,000 ELO points to buy other members.

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keep adding more spots as needed (limit 15)

We will also be looking for Enforcers to protect against market manipulation.

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12/13/2012 10:45:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
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12/13/2012 10:47:55 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/13/2012 10:35:06 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
I am not sure I understand. Say I want to buy a member, what do I do?

If the member is not owned by anyone, you buy from the bank, assuming you have enough ELO points.

Lets say a new member joins DDO (all new members start with 2,000 ELO points) and you think from talking with them that they are going to stick around for a while and do very well in debates, you can buy them for that 2,000 ELO. If they win a few debates and their ELO goes up to 2,400 then your investment has made 400 profit (which you can sell and collect or hold on to longer if you think that they are going to do better in time).
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12/13/2012 10:51:11 PM
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At 12/13/2012 10:45:25 PM, socialpinko wrote:
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12/13/2012 10:51:18 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I should also stipulate some things. You do not automatically own yourself. If you are a player, your member self may be owned by anyone, and you may not start with yourself (unless you draft yourself).

For example, Social signed up. If he wants, he could draft me in the opening and thus any debates I win that improve my ELO score will help his investment portfolio. If I want to own myself, I'd have to orchestrate a trade or buy from him (which he could charge any price he wants).
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12/13/2012 10:52:49 PM
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I'm not sure I'm okay with you investing and enforcing at the same time. That kind of seems like a easy way to slip a few quick tricks past everyone and claim it was all clean since you're enforcing things.
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12/13/2012 10:53:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I assume we're getting ELO scores from you Ore_Ele. Is there a third-party we can rely on to corroborate them? I only say because it could be a conflict of interest. Can like Airmax confirm?
: At 9/29/2014 10:55:59 AM, imabench wrote:
: : At 9/29/2014 9:43:46 AM, kbub wrote:
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: : DDO should discredit support of sexual violence at any time and in every way.
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: I disagree.
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12/13/2012 10:54:31 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/13/2012 10:52:01 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
So, right now, we can only buy new members?

Once the game starts all players will go through a 5 round draft, I'm thinking of basing draft order on ELO score. So each player will have 5 free members, then they will have 10,000 ELO points that they can use to buy any undrafted members at their ELO score.

BTW, we will be starting next Wednesday, though may do a quick trial to work out any bugs before then.
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12/13/2012 10:54:57 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Lol already researching.
: At 9/29/2014 10:55:59 AM, imabench wrote:
: : At 9/29/2014 9:43:46 AM, kbub wrote:
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12/13/2012 10:55:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/13/2012 10:52:49 PM, Zaradi wrote:
I'm not sure I'm okay with you investing and enforcing at the same time. That kind of seems like a easy way to slip a few quick tricks past everyone and claim it was all clean since you're enforcing things.

If enough people sign up, I'll be dropping out of the investing. I thought of that also, though there will be ways for all members to ensure honesty.
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12/13/2012 11:03:52 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/13/2012 10:51:11 PM, Muted wrote:
At 12/13/2012 10:45:25 PM, socialpinko wrote:
1) Ore_Ele
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Once we hit 6 I'll drop my name off.

If anyone has any questions, please ask here as others may likely be wondering something similar. Also, please remember that ELO scores are based on debates, and so they will not be super fast changing. That means this will be a long game. This will not likely be a fast paced game like mafia.

Also, while I encourage everyone to vote in debates, voting solely to boost your investments, or harm someone else's is not only market manipulation in this game, but also vote bombing and a violation of DDO rules. Please don't do it. I don't think the game will get THAT competitive, but I do want to address it now.
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12/14/2012 4:14:07 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Sounds interesting. I'll give it a go.
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12/14/2012 7:07:31 AM
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12/14/2012 7:54:07 AM
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At 12/14/2012 7:07:31 AM, lannan13 wrote:
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If people want to keep signing up, please do so, the 5 people signed up is a minimum needed, not a maximum.
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12/14/2012 9:01:35 AM
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At 12/14/2012 7:54:07 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 12/14/2012 7:07:31 AM, lannan13 wrote:
1) SPinko
2) muted
3) tvellalot
4) FREEDO
5)Lannan13

If people want to keep signing up, please do so, the 5 people signed up is a minimum needed, not a maximum.

Shall we begin?

Forgive for asking such stupid questions, but how is the drafting done? Does it mean i randomly get players or do i choose? (yeah, dumb question)
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12/14/2012 10:52:11 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 9:01:35 AM, Muted wrote:
At 12/14/2012 7:54:07 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 12/14/2012 7:07:31 AM, lannan13 wrote:
1) SPinko
2) muted
3) tvellalot
4) FREEDO
5)Lannan13

If people want to keep signing up, please do so, the 5 people signed up is a minimum needed, not a maximum.

Shall we begin?

We will begin the draft either tonight or tomorrow.


Forgive for asking such stupid questions, but how is the drafting done? Does it mean i randomly get players or do i choose? (yeah, dumb question)

Yes, you will get to choose your draft members and they come for free (you don"t have to pay for them). I also will not tell you what their ELO scores are until after the draft, so there is a bit of a mystery element there. The actual trading and investing in non-drafted members will begin on Wednesday. This gives us time to get through the draft.
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12/14/2012 11:15:55 AM
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12/14/2012 11:46:13 AM
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At 12/14/2012 11:15:55 AM, lannan13 wrote:
I won't be here tommorrow I will only have computer access on Monday again

How late will you be on tonight?
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12/14/2012 3:10:32 PM
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12/14/2012 5:14:16 PM
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That kind of sucks that we don't know ELO rankings beforehand. I'm going off of the update from 5 months ago. Though we get points for ELO rankings going up, not which are the highest right?
: At 9/29/2014 10:55:59 AM, imabench wrote:
: : At 9/29/2014 9:43:46 AM, kbub wrote:
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: : DDO should discredit support of sexual violence at any time and in every way.
:
: I disagree.
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12/14/2012 5:52:20 PM
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At 12/14/2012 5:14:16 PM, socialpinko wrote:
That kind of sucks that we don't know ELO rankings beforehand. I'm going off of the update from 5 months ago. Though we get points for ELO rankings going up, not which are the highest right?

Yes, it is about growth, just like with any investment. I will say, we will not be doing any short selling (though that may be incorporated later).
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12/14/2012 6:00:54 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 5:52:20 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 12/14/2012 5:14:16 PM, socialpinko wrote:
That kind of sucks that we don't know ELO rankings beforehand. I'm going off of the update from 5 months ago. Though we get points for ELO rankings going up, not which are the highest right?

Yes, it is about growth, just like with any investment. I will say, we will not be doing any short selling (though that may be incorporated later).

I'm pretty excited bout dis. Been scouting mofo!
: At 9/29/2014 10:55:59 AM, imabench wrote:
: : At 9/29/2014 9:43:46 AM, kbub wrote:
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: : DDO should discredit support of sexual violence at any time and in every way.
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: I disagree.
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12/14/2012 9:53:23 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/13/2012 10:13:49 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Welcome to DDO's invest-a-member game. This going to be like a basic stock investment game, but rather than investing in companies, you are investing in DDO members and their "market value" (which is what scores will be based on) will be ELO scores. Of course, players are allowed to buy, sell, and trade at any value they want, if they think someone is over valued or under valued.

There will be an interesting twist, however. Only one player may invest in any member (so not everyone can invest in Roy or Danielle). This twist is to add scarcity to this "market" so there can actually be trades.

With all members, we will start with a 5 round draft (order will be determined by player ELO score) and each player will also be given 10,000 ELO points to buy other members.

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12/15/2012 4:49:27 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Because some members are not on for the weekend, we will begin the draft on Sunday night. There is still time until then for people to sign up.
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12/15/2012 4:59:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/14/2012 9:01:35 AM, Muted wrote:
At 12/14/2012 7:54:07 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 12/14/2012 7:07:31 AM, lannan13 wrote:
1) SPinko
2) muted
3) tvellalot
4) FREEDO
5)Lannan13
6) 16kadams

If people want to keep signing up, please do so, the 5 people signed up is a minimum needed, not a maximum.

Shall we begin?

Forgive for asking such stupid questions, but how is the drafting done? Does it mean i randomly get players or do i choose? (yeah, dumb question)
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