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Ore_Ele
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12/25/2012 12:31:21 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
So the drafting has just been completed and we are about to begin the games. While DDO investments will change all the time, the bank will not be open to buy or sell investments until 12/26.

Here is what we currently have going.

At the moment, it is, of course, a 7 way tie, with all players seeing 0% growth. Currently,

Lannan has 23,936 ELO points and his investments are currently in a staggering 22 debates.
Bossy has 29,440 ELO points and his investments are currently in 8 debates.
Rationalmad has 35,419 ELO points however his investments are only in 1 debate.
Muted has 21,992 ELO points and also only has an investment in 1 debate.
Social has 21,202 ELO points and his investments are in 13 debates.
Freedo is the spitting image of Social with 21,296 ELO points and 11 debates.
16kadams has 24,036 points and has investments in 6 debates.
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Zaradi
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12/25/2012 12:36:14 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Even though I'm not in this, I'm curious to see who people picked. Will that ever be posted publicly?
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12/25/2012 12:39:02 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
For anyone interested in the Drafting results, here they are.

==Round 1==
Imabench (to Lannan)
Socialpinko (to Bossy)
16kadams (to Rationalmad)
Greenteas (to Muted)
Ultimateskeptic (to Social)
Rosstheboss (to Freedo)
Ron-Paul (to 16kadams)

==Round 2==
Lannan13
Zaradi
Dakotakrafick
JH1234l
Bodhivaka
Ike-jin-park
Frozen_Eclipse

==Round 3==
Heineken
Brian_Eggleston
Ryuukyuzo
TrasguTravesio
tmar19652
ax123man
Microsuck (now DoubtingDave)

==Round 4==
Wallstreetatheist
Larztheloser
Danielle
Tulle
Theelderscroll
Topiarey
1Historygenius

==Round 5==
Emospongebob
Ore_Ele
Roylatham
Muted
Doctordeku
Thetraditionalist
Center_for_rationality
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Zaradi
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12/25/2012 12:42:00 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
All the people I got picked over that are, arguably, better than I am LOL. Wow bossy has confidence in me.
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Ore_Ele
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12/25/2012 12:43:50 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/25/2012 12:42:00 AM, Zaradi wrote:
All the people I got picked over that are, arguably, better than I am LOL. Wow bossy has confidence in me.

Well, it is about investment growth. There's not a lot of confidence that Roy or Danielle's ELO score is going to go up a whole lot. After all, if they beat a new member, their ELO goes up like 6 points, while another new member beating that same new member would go up 75 points.
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Ore_Ele
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12/25/2012 12:44:36 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
While I won't be publishing everyone's investment portfolio every week, I will do weekly updates.
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12/25/2012 12:44:51 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/25/2012 12:42:00 AM, Zaradi wrote:
All the people I got picked over that are, arguably, better than I am LOL. Wow bossy has confidence in me.

You're baller.
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12/25/2012 12:50:21 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I thought I could sell roy and danielle, this game is now very silly and I will probably lose
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We didn't fight our way to the top of the food chain to be f***ng vegetarians.
Ore_Ele
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12/25/2012 12:51:58 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/25/2012 12:50:21 AM, RationalMadman wrote:
I thought I could sell roy and danielle, this game is now very silly and I will probably lose

You can, as I said in the PM that buying and selling would not be available until 12/26
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12/25/2012 1:03:18 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/25/2012 12:39:02 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
For anyone interested in the Drafting results, here they are.

==Round 1==
Imabench (to Lannan)
Socialpinko (to Bossy)
16kadams (to Rationalmad)
Greenteas (to Muted)
Ultimateskeptic (to Social)
Rosstheboss (to Freedo)
Ron-Paul (to 16kadams)

==Round 2==
Lannan13
Zaradi
Dakotakrafick
JH1234l
Bodhivaka
Ike-jin-park
Frozen_Eclipse

==Round 3==
Heineken
Brian_Eggleston
Ryuukyuzo
TrasguTravesio
tmar19652
ax123man
Microsuck (now DoubtingDave)

==Round 4==
Wallstreetatheist
Larztheloser
Danielle
Tulle
Theelderscroll
Topiarey
1Historygenius

==Round 5==
Emospongebob
Ore_Ele
Roylatham
Muted
Doctordeku
Thetraditionalist
Center_for_rationality

I am genuinely surprised at these picks.
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Zaradi
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12/25/2012 1:16:48 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/25/2012 1:03:18 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:

I am genuinely surprised at these picks.

I'm not. It's not about who gets the most wins, but rather who's ELO score raises the most (at least that's what I understood, I may be wrong). As such, people like Danielle and RoyLatham are bad investments as a) they hardly ever debate anymore, and b) their ELO scores are massive, which means that they wouldn't ever raise much.

The only surprise I saw was that Emospongebob wasn't taken earlier. He does noob snipe, and that doesn't do much, but he's a very active debater who takes in a lot of debates and noob snipes them, which does about the same as a good serious win against a good opponent in terms of raising your ELO score. I'd think he'd be an okay investment.
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12/25/2012 1:21:45 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/25/2012 1:16:48 AM, Zaradi wrote:
At 12/25/2012 1:03:18 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:

I am genuinely surprised at these picks.

I'm not. It's not about who gets the most wins, but rather who's ELO score raises the most (at least that's what I understood, I may be wrong). As such, people like Danielle and RoyLatham are bad investments as a) they hardly ever debate anymore, and b) their ELO scores are massive, which means that they wouldn't ever raise much.
You can sell them to the bank for their Elo rating though.
The only surprise I saw was that Emospongebob wasn't taken earlier. He does noob snipe, and that doesn't do much, but he's a very active debater who takes in a lot of debates and noob snipes them, which does about the same as a good serious win against a good opponent in terms of raising your ELO score. I'd think he'd be an okay investment.

He loses a lot though. Losing to a noob is fatal.
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12/25/2012 7:41:53 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/25/2012 12:42:00 AM, Zaradi wrote:
All the people I got picked over that are, arguably, better than I am LOL. Wow bossy has confidence in me.

Aww... Thanks for the complament.
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12/25/2012 7:45:36 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/25/2012 5:06:07 AM, Center_for_Rationality wrote:
I was drafted!! :)) It just got real!! But the notion that I could be sold makes me feel whoreish. -_-

and if you don't keep up your debates then you'll be sold and fade away like a photograph.
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lannan13
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12/26/2012 8:39:59 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Rational madman stop VBing my debates to spike my points.
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FREEDO
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12/27/2012 9:36:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I assume we are able to make transactions separate from buying and selling members, as if the points were real money. If not, correct me.

I am officially offering a 10,000E loan to anyone.

I offer three different repayment plans.

1. 8,000E after 20 days and 8,000E after 40 days.

2. 6,000E after 10 days and 8,000E after 20 days.

3. 5,000E after 5 days and 6,000E after 10 days.

I will only take one person.

I also establish The FREEDO Trade Alliance.

The purpose of the alliance is to strengthen the members involved and weaken the ones not involved. We do this by charging higher prices to those on the outside and keeping the ones on the inside low. To do this in an organized way, I establish a FREEDO's Trade Alliance General Fund to be funded through a tariff and respective anti-tariff. Members will make prices of their assets of their choice public. If they choose to buy/sell to a non FTA member, a 20% tariff will be put on it. If they choose to buy/sell from someone who is an FTA member, 20% will be payed to them out of the General Fund. Members may only receive from the General Fund as many times as they have put into it. They may only put in if their regular price was made public first, they add 20% to the price for a non FTA member and send the points to the General Fund. As chairman of the FTA, I can ban anyone from membership. I will do this if I suspect that they are engaging in dirty voting practices. Anyone who accepts a loan from me is guaranteed a spot in the FTA. Anyone, up to two people, who bids highest for spot, is guaranteed one in the FTA. So I will be the one keeping track of all this and not Ore_Ele, the General Fund will be counted as my own income. As such, it will be confirmed by you sending the points to me personally in your investment PM with Ore_Ele. If I take out of the General Fund for any reason not specified here or not agreed on by popular vote, I hereby set the precedent that everyone should boycott trade with me. The FTA is a mutual aid project. Though any member would be helping the others, each is also increasing their own chances of ending up on top. As there are 7 players, the FTA will be open for 4 members. They will be whoever signs up first, subject to my arbitration.

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12/27/2012 9:48:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
dude your interest rate is way too high.
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We didn't fight our way to the top of the food chain to be f***ng vegetarians.
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12/27/2012 9:49:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I want to join alliance though.
The early bird might get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

We didn't fight our way to the top of the food chain to be f***ng vegetarians.
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12/27/2012 10:40:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
FYI, we'll likely call it game after 13 weeks, so you probably shouldn't take out any loans that are too long.
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FREEDO
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12/27/2012 11:56:37 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/27/2012 9:48:12 PM, RationalMadman wrote:
dude your interest rate is way too high.

Says the one who wanted to create a voting bloc over it.
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12/28/2012 12:04:02 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/25/2012 1:42:17 AM, FREEDO wrote:
Social, I offer you 100E for Bodhivaka.

No thanks. He's probs my best pick.
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12/28/2012 1:01:38 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I have an open offer of at least 200E for any asset that has debated at least once in the last 5 days and has an ELO of at least 2000. I'll take up to 2.
I have an open offer of at least 500E for any asset that has debated at least twice in the last 5 days and has an ELO of at least 2200. I'll take up to 4.
I have an open offer of at least 800E for any asset that has debated at least three times in the last 5 days, has a win ratio of at least 80% and has an ELO of at least 2600. I'll take up to 6.
I have an open offer of at least 1000E for any asset that has debated at least four times in the last 5 days, has a win ratio of at least 85% and has an ELO of at least 2800. I'll take up to 8.

These offers does not extend to the bank.
GRAND POOBAH OF DDO

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12/28/2012 10:25:18 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/27/2012 9:36:01 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I assume we are able to make transactions separate from buying and selling members, as if the points were real money. If not, correct me.

I am officially offering a 10,000E loan to anyone.

I offer three different repayment plans.

1. 8,000E after 20 days and 8,000E after 40 days.

2. 6,000E after 10 days and 8,000E after 20 days.

3. 5,000E after 5 days and 6,000E after 10 days.

I will only take one person.

I also establish The FREEDO Trade Alliance.

The purpose of the alliance is to strengthen the members involved and weaken the ones not involved. We do this by charging higher prices to those on the outside and keeping the ones on the inside low. To do this in an organized way, I establish a FREEDO's Trade Alliance General Fund to be funded through a tariff and respective anti-tariff. Members will make prices of their assets of their choice public. If they choose to buy/sell to a non FTA member, a 20% tariff will be put on it. If they choose to buy/sell from someone who is an FTA member, 20% will be payed to them out of the General Fund. Members may only receive from the General Fund as many times as they have put into it. They may only put in if their regular price was made public first, they add 20% to the price for a non FTA member and send the points to the General Fund. As chairman of the FTA, I can ban anyone from membership. I will do this if I suspect that they are engaging in dirty voting practices. Anyone who accepts a loan from me is guaranteed a spot in the FTA. Anyone, up to two people, who bids highest for spot, is guaranteed one in the FTA. So I will be the one keeping track of all this and not Ore_Ele, the General Fund will be counted as my own income. As such, it will be confirmed by you sending the points to me personally in your investment PM with Ore_Ele. If I take out of the General Fund for any reason not specified here or not agreed on by popular vote, I hereby set the precedent that everyone should boycott trade with me. The FTA is a mutual aid project. Though any member would be helping the others, each is also increasing their own chances of ending up on top. As there are 7 players, the FTA will be open for 4 members. They will be whoever signs up first, subject to my arbitration.

1. Lannan13
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*note: I will uphold any tax or arbitration that doesn't in some way benefit me.
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12/28/2012 1:27:44 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Who picked me? Just curious. I probably won't be very helpful given the ELO determination, but for what it's worth, I'm currently debating Zaradi, Logical-Master and Roy: the latter 2 with pretty high rankings, so that could be interesting. How/when does this game end?
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Ore_Ele
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12/28/2012 6:21:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/28/2012 1:27:44 PM, Danielle wrote:
Who picked me? Just curious. I probably won't be very helpful given the ELO determination, but for what it's worth, I'm currently debating Zaradi, Logical-Master and Roy: the latter 2 with pretty high rankings, so that could be interesting. How/when does this game end?

You were drafted by rationalmadman (there were no trades done in the draft, so it was the same order for every round).
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